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a year ago
I don’t wanna get *too* much into details, but I would be staying with a friend. She has nothing to do with a stripper life, drug life, or anything else semi-shady. I trust wherever she is at would be sufficiently safe and boring. Also, whether correctly or incorrectly, I am not too afraid of the ghetto after crashing in a couple of ghetto areas around St Louis in 2019. I’m trying to figure out whether I wanna head out that way soon, or sometime in the spring. I grew up somewhere more south and am not interested in dealing with icey roads ever again. (My real fear, lol)
I appreciate the club suggestions so far. I’ll look them up in a little bit 😋
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a year ago
And I accidentally posted this too soon. I’m not interested in working at Burlington 😅
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a year ago
I’ve taken a couple of shooting classes and been at a range before, but never set off a firework before. I wanna try out hunting one of these days
- Monday after work at Dirty’s
I’ll just chime in because I saw a couple of grumpy downvotes. I thought you had a good review that covered important details.
I think I would agree with you that it’s very locall-heavy and is partly a sports bar. And it’s common for customers to want to watch the game there, so they will pause stage rotation when they know where people will be focusing.
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a year ago
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mogul1985I have 3 lives: Work, Dog Shows and Strip Clubs
From Scarlett O Hara’s (the club in Sioux Falls) the Hop Scotch Club is about 3 hrs and 15 minutes. Frank Days and Cody’s are both about a 3 hour drive. The Prairie Chicken is 2.5 hours, Kongo Club is an hour 15 minutes. I know of one clubgoer who would come up from the Watertown area and was prepared to hit up four clubs in his vicinity, but end up handing out at one club longer if he was entertained enough.
So I guess make a road trip loop through those clubs I just listed, or get a direct flight from Sioux Falls for a day or two trip. Here is where you can go with a direct flight:
https://www.sfairport.com/flights-travel/direct-destinations
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a year ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
The Virgin Mary, popcorn
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a year ago
Yeah, whatever club has managed to not get itself shut down through the years is guaranteed to make money just because they are grandfathered in and new competitors can’t really come in. And Deja Vu and Ricks keeps consolidating what clubs are within their chain. Some large places like Phoenix or Portland have a lot of independently run clubs—but at this point, it’s getting to where that’s more an exception.
And I found in some dancer group that some Ricks club managers are pressuring dancers to download an app called Pole Position so that clubs managers can rate our looks/behaviors, have dancers use it to clock in for a shift, how they can audition for a club, etc.
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a year ago
The breadstick can be a self-defense weapon against unruly behavior 😁
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a year ago
Ah yes, Olive Garden can be a catering partner. The VIP room will offer a one of the Olive Garden entrees as well for paying customers. A dancer will go next door and pick it up. I’m sure people would love to see somebody walking in with a face full of makeup and extra high heels walking in to pick up the Togo order multiple times a day for the club’s day/midshift.
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a year ago
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SpecialjBorn in NYC, conceived at Woodstock.
Idk about bumper sticker, but I saw a vanity plate once that said “rawr XD”
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a year ago
….but then again, probably couldn’t get away with a porn studio upstairs legally. I’m sure somebody would have already done it by now if they could.
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a year ago
Ahahah. Nashville is the bureaucratic place where city hall holds “meetings” twice a month and it’s mandatory for aspiring dancers to attend for the privilege of paying for their licenses to work.
As for me…
I would go full hippie with an indoor hydroponic garden and stuff like that. And also offer mocktails that have alcohol free “liquor” that tastes like the drink…and can have either nothing in there or CBD with it. And also, whenever a customer purchases an hourly room, if they don’t finish their bottle of whatever, it gets stores in a locker for them for two weeks before it gets poured out.
And also completely ban extras and whatever mileage is ~technically~ not allowed in its local jurisdiction (but oftentimes ignored)… aside from one specific vip area that is on camera and it’s technically a porn making establishment. Yes, people can pay to view people fucking in the club. Dancers and customers can wear a mask or something if they want to protect their identity. Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Miyaya®-Halloween-Horse-Head-Mask/dp/B00YASWLAU/ref=asc_df_B00YASWLAU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198093909967&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1746877944118616616&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030103&hvtargid=pla-378575147416&psc=1
Also, I would give customers place cards like Brazilian steakhouses do where the green side means it’s okay to approach and red means don’t do that right now. In return, I’d probably either offer no house fee/even being outright paid hourly because it would be unfair to tell dancers they can’t hustle all the time if they have that pressure. With a few more rules added on maybe, but nothing excessive. Basically, whatever the structure was before the 1990s for a lot of entertainers. Basically, I’d have a club where the goal is to fill the roster with a lot of laid back dancers who have the chance to make “middling” earnings instead of all-or-nothing like a lot of environments are.
…where would I place said club? I guess whatever location would have a high enough customer population that would react “that’s a cool idea” rather than “that is freaking idiotic” If that’s nowhere, then nowhere it is.
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a year ago
The men who get angry are attention whore males. In grade school, they get to find their way to do that in their small environment with a captive audience. In the real world, they have to actually be what others consider either entertaining or useful for attention. So what they experienced growing up gets taken away, and they don’t know how to do deal. Just my guess.
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a year ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
PSD is a 10 😁
…oh wait, are we still talking about what some dude said 16 years ago?
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a year ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
—>“I suppose there are probably some girls that just get so fed up with the BS from us PLs that they want to quit dancing and move into more of a managemnt/training role as a house mom instead of leaving the business all together and I'm sure nicespice would do well in that scenario.”
So that I have to do stuff like yell at girls things only one can be in a bathroom stall at a time? (Prevent them from hogging up the space with their snorting) Snitch on whatever I see to management? Listen to somebody if they are having an emotional breakdown? In some clubs, may have to be part of auditions and enforce the club’s stupid racial quotas?
No thanks 😭
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a year ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
I’ve had plenty of backlash on here 🤷🏻♀️ Stage 5 was probably back when more people would actually visit me at a club. That got way reduced after Covid
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a year ago
I kid you not, that is how one of the clubs in Denver is. One of my regulars would spend a good chunk of time with me, and then when I would leave, he would move from the table over to the bar. And he’s Facebook friends with a bunch of people there. The second time that club had a Covid shutdown, one of them texted and asked me when the club would be open. I told him that he knew more than me and he should let me know, lol
I also knew Bucks in Fort Worth had a whole clique of cheapskates who sat at a particular table together near one of the stages. They told me they had met at that club, and eventually became friends.
Some of these super localsy type of clubs really do have that. But then again, I’ve also worked at other locals types of clubs and it wasn’t like that.
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a year ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
When I was in school, I specifically remember it being written in the course catalog that transfer credits to be counted for economics class would only be accepted if their class curriculum had an emphasis on the free market. I remember during my high school graduation from a *public* school, we had to do a prayer during our ceremony.
But now that I think about it, I don’t remember anything about Oppenheimer in my history class. But I do remember a brief mention during physics class.( along with Heisenberg and Einstein and Planck) Which honestly, I have no problem with that. That class is the better place to briefly describe what those men were actually doing. Just imo
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a year ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
What is considered important information for…
American History
https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/ap-us-history-course-and-exam-description.pdf
World History
https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/ap-world-history-modern-course-and-exam-description.pdf
And educators take those topics seriously because it affects their students testing scores.
Not every student is going to be in an AP class. But what topics are covered won’t be too far off.
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a year ago
From what I’ve seen in Texas, Arizona, and Florida, there are plenty of white dancers doing their thing. I guess when a club gets saturated with 20-50% minorities, then somehow the power of melanin turns white girl skin invisible.
- Guys Golf Gongshot Weekend
I’ve read about this club before, and it seems like it’s not too terrible for dancers as far as Commiefornia clubs go. Since I assume this is management helping some golf guys write a review…I just wanted to ask if this club is cool with travel dancers?
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a year ago
Maybe they claimed to work for Toys R US? 😁
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a year ago
22. Hmm, I’m not sure where to recommend for customers. I assume it’s a buyers market out there, especially in decent sized cities. As for where I recommend for dancers, it depends on their circumstances. Are they only staying in one area or can/will they be willing to move around? Is there any clientele that is a no go? Etc
@minnow As far as tusclers I’ve met, I’ll mention the ones who have openly mentioned meeting me on the the board or in a review before. If they hadn’t, then I’ll leave their handle out.
Doctorevil, SanAntonio_LDK, Paul_Drake, Nicole1994, April9424, Wallanon, Muddy, Woodstock, lurkingdog, heaving, crazyjoe, twentyfive, warrior, papi_chulo, somebody whose handle I don’t recall, but I met the guy at the same time I saw papi/twentyfive/warrior, Nidan111, sirlapdancealot, gSteph, BoringLoser (or whatever his screen name was, I think it was changed), fishhawk, Bangus, uprightcitizen, BaggerRider, ElDuderino_AZ, rickdugan
@MrLion, but you don’t respresent lions. You represent RickLions. RAWR
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a year ago
—>“ I also noticed that many of the states you are considering for the future are (mostly) red or purple states, but that may have more to do with less regulations, better post-Covid economic bounceback, etc.”
Especially if it’s the smaller areas within those states. Though I guess when I said Covid being when I lost interest in cities isn’t completely true. But it was the starting process of that.
I used to be able to get airbnbs more inexpensively and a lot of my hosts were interesting. But after Covid, even the rentals that are a bedroom in a house (as opposed to an entire property) also has a lot of “easy passive income” slum lords running it, and prices have shot up to be comparable to a hotel. And of course, inflation in general can’t be ignored.
Also, some of the clubs in some of these places are just simply easier. For example, while dancers all over are complaining of dancer oversaturation in sooo many places, I found a club in Fort Dodge Iowa where I was one of only two dancers working on a Friday and Saturday night.
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a year ago
1. It’s probably a combination. I definitely watch for body language first and the way they do (or don’t do) eye contact second.
2. Favorite batch has always been randoms in a packed club whenever some event is going on. I guess Texas was where I experienced that the most. Heck I’ve had a surprise or two at my Denver club even though it’s a super locals type of place. But I guess it’s easy to think of that group the most fondly. Though nowadays, I don’t even try to look for that kind of thing. I do like Midwestern personalities in general though.
3. My most hated batch of customers have been in Tucson AZ and Daytona FL. It’s especially sad for Tucson because I love the town itself. And how easy it is to go from the town right outside to pretty scenery. Heck, since I have no intentions of dancing out there ever again, I’ll say there is some awesome camping options that is either free or low priced and one can be at Curves in a half hour drive, even if the first 10 minutes is on straight gravel. I wish Tucson could be at least super mediocre. 😭
4. I haven’t been in Oregon since 2019. But I remember it as slower paced. Customers want to talk and talk and talk and talk. But I remember that they tended to be pretty respectful if I could actually get them off their butts to get a dance. I remember being at this one more locals-y club and I’d leave grumpy, but then I’d count my money and realize that I made more off the stage than I realized.
5. Texas is where I was born and raised. Customers tend to be more aggressive and push for mileage really fast. Dancers who come in from out of state comment on that stuff all the time. If life hadn’t desensitized me to it, I’d probably despise working there. And just personal observation, that just reflects Texans in general, with the ego alpha male mentality. There is less of that behavior in Austin though (transplants?) and among younger people (children of transplants? Generational attitudes in general?)
6. So at Platinum 84, that is the only club I’ve ever danced in ever that has ninja tipper customers. As in, they specifically wait until I’m doing something where I’m not directly looking at them and I have no way of knowing for sure who did it, before stage tipping. The first few times I thought I was just not paying attention well, but eventually I realized, holy cow some of these customers are doing this on purpose. Wtf!? My Denver club is pretty great, though there has been waaay too many stories about some sketch stuff that happens during night shift, and that makes me too wary to work during that time more than once in a blue moon. But that’s been an awesome club overall and one of my favorites.
7. These are a bundle of questions, lol.
I’ve had more positive experiences than not during meet ups. Yeah, I’d say the interactions might be slightly different. I guess it’s nice that I don’t have to tailor my language. Like if I am introducing myself to a “normal” customer, they might have hang ups and insecurities of being perceived as a guy who is undesirable (and hence why he is in a club) And a lot of the beginnings of interacting with some customers is putting them at ease that just merely being there doesn’t make them weirdos. Or figuring out if that is a likely uncomfortable barrier for that customer in general. If it’s a TUSCLer who has messaged me and walked in the club to meet though, then all that is moot so that process gets skipped. Which can make for some pretty interesting conversations.
I had to write down and tally everyone to answer the next question. I have officially met 38 individuals. Most of them was PM back and fourth and met at a club. Notable exceptions:
I met one individual at a club, when I was tinkering with the dancer directory and I had tied myself to a club with a schedule. A guy introduced himself to me as is. It turns out that he didn’t even have a tuscl account, and saw me in there. That individual in question was pretty cool and we ended up exchanging numbers in case I was going to dance in that town again. BUT that did end up making me more wary about being too out there.
One guy who wrote a club review and I found myself mentioned in there. He said nice things about my looks, but less nice things otherwise. Boooooooo
One individual who walked in and made a beeline for me in a club, and told me he knew I probably had regulars but wanted a dance immediately. If the said customer I was sitting with at the time wasn’t dying of cancer, I would have because I was curious who the heck that guy was. And it was especially an interesting interaction because it was a white collar guy in a blue collar club. And he left the club soon after. Alas. I will probably never figure out who the heck that guy is. (If you’re reading this, feel free to PM)
Idk if this guy has a tuscl account, but I figure the chances have to be decently high. I will salute whichever dude I met the day when I auditioned at and then worked a shift at Sugar44. I never got his contact info at all, but somehow I ended up running into him over at Hiliter and Dirty’s at some point as well. I do briefly remember chatting with him about the Phoenix area clubs and describing one dancer as “somebody who is a Dream Palace type of girl” because of her air dances. And there were a couple of other things that made me wonder as well. If you’re reading this, and this is you, feel free to PM.
8. I don’t really have much of a judgment on a customer’s clothes, aside from just noticing so I can maybe pick up on clues about occupation and sense of style (and possibly culture identity?) and the like.
9. I’ve seen a couple of butt plugs and they were wearing it while working, but meh. I remember some years back, Portland dancers were talking crap (hehe) about some dancers wearing diapers as an aesthetic. I never saw that when I was at any club there, so thankfully that must have been a short lived trend.
There was one dancer who wore this half blanket, half sweater thing that resembled a cow,
https://www.amazon.com/Critter-Blan…
and danced to the Mooo song by Doja Cat
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ITZ9K…
….aaaand that dancer may or may not have been me.
There was also some dancer who technically wasn’t wearing it, but walked around the club with a penis plushy that day. She let me take a photo with the plushie. Fun times.
https://ibb.co/gmYcdf0
10. How I handle rejection depends on mood, especially boredom. I generally prefer to be as neutral as I can be.
11. My favorite type of customer is generally one who is more likely to be a quick sale. Mexicans, young guys, etc Why? Because they are easy sales and I am lazy and enjoy not thinking. On the opposite end, older white customers often want to talk and talk and talk and talk and they are pickier because they are used to dancers kissing their asses. BUT since that’s the demographic that most realistically turns into a regular, I can’t really dislike them. But I do have to spend more energy on them initially is all.
I think the main customer I really can’t stand are Tesla drivers. I’m sure there are more than plenty of decent guys who came to the club driving a Tesla and I have no clue about it. But the customers who find a way to somehow make that part of the conversation are such attention whoring cheapskates. Sir, unless you are planning to hand me the title to the car, IDGAF about your car. And at least the BMW drivers remember to buy dances while they talk about their cars. Take cues from them.
12. My favorite animal are penguins 🐧
13. Favorite tv show…? Not sure. I think it’s Firefly I’ve re-watched the most often. So maybe that one. Movie is super tough too, but I think it’s the Dark Crystal I’ve re-watched the most? Favorite anime is tough too. Too many things just depend on my mood. I’ll just say Cowboy Bebop.
14. As far as other cities, not sure yet. I will say that my focus more in what I am interested in are more low-key small town spots where I can make new girl money and lodging is cheap. I’ve lost interest in cities ever since covid.
I even put together a list of states and the towns, but I still have to refine my list. But I am interested in one or more areas of Arizona. Arkansas, California (most likely the very north part of that state, if I end up over there), Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana; Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New York; North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming. …yeah, that’s a large list. Oh well.
15. It’s tough to say the best spot. I freaking love Oregon around where it isn’t necessarily Portland. I met more than one hippie type out there buying who bought land and physically built their own house where they collect rainwater and have solar energy. And the most beautiful stuff in that state seemed to be in these random oddball areas to pull over and just walk around when you see a sign that there is some walking trail over there. Ummmm…when I was in elementary school I remember going to Kripalu, which was some yoga retreat place in Massachusetts. There were kids activities and I remember it was a whole different experience that was fun. Maybe I’ll nominate there too? But there’s probably better spots in that region of the country.
16. Yeah, customers can get attached/personal. I think it’s because I am somewhat neurodivergent so customers eventually are going to either think that’s either charming or annoying. So customers who like me tend to really like me.
17. All time favorite club…? Hmm, not sure. Just like with movies, it’s genuinely tough for me to have a favorite. I’ll just say Platinum 84 since I’ve clocked the most shifts there, idk And as far as places I’d. never work again…hmm, I know I mentioned the towns already, but I’ll call out the clubs. Curves Tucson and Molly Brown Daytona are a no go. Those customers are the most unnecessarily determined to be cunts I’ve ever met. And both have toxic regular patrons who openly speak about how greedy management are, very lowballing when they do want to spend and antagonistic when they don’t, and also will sit at w state and tip zero. And have trained dancers to sit with them at the stage talking to them, while continuing to do the no tipping.
18. If I have a say, music selection that I pick can be all over the place. I do often try to sneak early 2000s pop-punk in there.
19. As far as feeling unsafe…Hmm, I guess I’ve wondered at some drinks a couple of times. Where I’m not sure I just overdid the alcohol or there was something else in there. But nothing more dramatic happened other than passing out in the dressing room, so idk probably not. There was one time I was leaving the club and it it seemed like a cop was following me from the club. I wonder if he was trying to nab me for being drunk or something. But I never got pulled over thankfully. One or two incidents in VIP that can get scary, but somehow manage to calm a situation down. There was a customer who outright told me he would be waiting for me in the parking lot, since the club was about to close in a few minutes. But I told the bouncer, and nothing happened.
20. Least favorite thing from a customer is presuming they know xyz about me and all stripperkind everywhere. I think a lot of them read from the same “how to sleep with a stripper” advice article.
Or customers who give lectures or how I can make more money if I do cheap extras/onlyfans/usually something that is just merely describing his own personal preference.
The most annoying thing a customer can do during dances, hmm, I guess run of the mill persistent boundary pushing, ESPECIALLY if it’s a club camera monitored. Because then the pressure is on me to possibly stop the dance lest it look like I’m trying to encourage bad behavior. But I prefer to at least finish out a song even if a customer is being a jackass.
21. I guess dancer groups have been a top way. I’ve also tried out random places because tusclers have suggested it and I don’t mind trying out random spots regardless.