IF you were to open strip club, where would you set up shop?

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Muddy
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Or at least where you NOT. What state? City? General area? Say you don't even have to live near it so it takes that part out of the equation.

State wise...

Some things I notice, when I'm in Pennsylvania, I don't think it's the whole state but some spots in PA your able to go Full nude, smoking indoors, full contact and alcohol is served. It's kind of rare thing to have all that now that I think about it. These aren't things I particularly remember about clubs in hindsight but I can't think of too many other places where all that was a thing.

When you look at West Virginia, a state with not even 2 million people. But for it's population it's got a ton of SC's. If you look they sort of hug the borders which makes me think maybe it makes sense to be West Virginia (certainly in the case of the Virginia border) then the alternative. I'm not privy to each local jurisdiction's regulatory situation but it's the little stuff like that that's says a lot.

I would probably be not be in California, which I like customer though but I mean how many crazy ass anti business stories are we going to read about California strip clubs and just even business overall out there.

Texas and Louisiana from what I understand is 21 and up. How can I get dancers if the age group that wants to work most can't even work?

I'd probably try to avoid the bible belt entirely. Mountain west, it's Mormon territory, would also completely avoid the entire region.

Not doing the hood. Been to enough of those. No North philly, No Baltimore, no east st. louis, San Francisco, DTLA, fuck all that shit. No far left areas either where defending yourself from some piece of shit actually lands YOU (lol) in jail.

Probably be in the suburbs if I could make it work. The more I go on, the more I like those types of clubs. There's parking. Leave the craziness to the downtown spots. I also wouldn't want to be out in the boonies though. I FUCKING HATE driving in these wooded areas where little Bambi's are just waiting jump out and fuck your car up. HATE IT. I don't know how people live in these areas if they don't have big ass truck and deal with that bullshit. At least in the desert/great plains, you could see what's out there before it jumps in the road.

Competition nearby. Probably wouldn't do it in Detroit, Houston, Tampa or Portland. Seems like the inn is full at these places. I do notice that the tri cities in Washington has no strip clubs. Something to think about.

My answer. I have no clue. But I do have a great idea on where not to put it. If I had to say today probably a truck stop somewhere but with trucking possibly getting automated out, long term it would give me pause.

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Muddy
a year ago
Hope not that's too TLDR but it probably is.
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Jascoi
a year ago
the laws and hassle in most locations in the USA would preclude me from opening a new location other than buying somebody else's strip club. and to have a kind of strip club I like.. probably somewhat difficult.
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Jascoi
a year ago
besides, I don't have the money anyway.
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Electronman
a year ago
Two thoughts on location:

On the outskirts/suburbs of a major city that has relatively few strip clubs because of overly prudish city ordinances. This would work if and only if the suburb had more lenient ordinances than the adjacent city. A couple of cities come to mind: Cincinnati
and Grand Rapids, MI. I suspect that others will know of other "prudish" cities that would be a candidate for a strip club in a more progressive adjacent suburb.

I'm still intrigued by the prospect of placing a strip club on an Indian reservation (where tribal laws apply but state laws do not) or near an existing casino. See discussion from several years ago: https://app.tuscl.net/discussion/44078

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rickthelion
a year ago
What state? The state of inebriation my friend. ROAR!!!
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shailynn
a year ago
I would (like said above) look for property that is within walking distance of a large truck stop and a casino within 1 mile.

I am not a trucker but I’ve driven past or been in countless truck stops in the middle of nowhere with nothing around them. My thoughts always are “more people than just truckers are stopping in here and why hasn’t anybody thought of putting some sort of business next door to entertain these truckers?”
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skibum609
a year ago
When Massachusetts had no casinos, 75% of the cars in the Ct. casinos were from Massachusetts. 75% of the cars in the parking lot of Desires are from Massachusetts. I would import Italians from CT and RI, change the boring Irish attitude in Mass. and open up here.
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motorhead
a year ago
On my Facebook news feed today for my new hometown of Dayton, Ohio there was an article about a businessman interested in converting an existing building to a strip club. A former Vice cop posted that there were at least a dozen clubs in Dayton but he and his partner shut them all down

There a 2 or 3 clubs in the suburbs but no clubs in the city. The Dayton MSA has over 800,000 people including a large Air Force base and two large universities. I would certainly think it could support a few decent clubs.
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funonthaside
a year ago
Just off the Strip in Vegas, with a cover of only $5, to give people a more reasonable option close to The Strip, rather than forcing people to head to North Vegas for reasonable option. I suppose, though, that I would soon get some visits from goons who would not-so-politely encourage me to do away with my low cover charge.
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gammanu95
a year ago
If I could lure in in French-Canadian dancers by building a club near the Quebec border, I might be game for that.
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datinman
a year ago
If I could find a way to open a full nude full liquor club without zoning and leo hassles, I would place it in Nashville. Lots of tourists, travel destination for bachelor parties, has sports teams for after game parties, middle age dudes with money, Vanderbilt for co-eds, tons of future country music stars struggling with their waitress gig waiting for the "big break", and the current Nashville clubs suck bigly. I am sure a Baby Dolls Dallas type club in Nashville would make serious bank.
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nicespice
a year ago
Ahahah. Nashville is the bureaucratic place where city hall holds “meetings” twice a month and it’s mandatory for aspiring dancers to attend for the privilege of paying for their licenses to work.

As for me…
I would go full hippie with an indoor hydroponic garden and stuff like that. And also offer mocktails that have alcohol free “liquor” that tastes like the drink…and can have either nothing in there or CBD with it. And also, whenever a customer purchases an hourly room, if they don’t finish their bottle of whatever, it gets stores in a locker for them for two weeks before it gets poured out.

And also completely ban extras and whatever mileage is ~technically~ not allowed in its local jurisdiction (but oftentimes ignored)… aside from one specific vip area that is on camera and it’s technically a porn making establishment. Yes, people can pay to view people fucking in the club. Dancers and customers can wear a mask or something if they want to protect their identity. Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Miyaya®-Halloween…

Also, I would give customers place cards like Brazilian steakhouses do where the green side means it’s okay to approach and red means don’t do that right now. In return, I’d probably either offer no house fee/even being outright paid hourly because it would be unfair to tell dancers they can’t hustle all the time if they have that pressure. With a few more rules added on maybe, but nothing excessive. Basically, whatever the structure was before the 1990s for a lot of entertainers. Basically, I’d have a club where the goal is to fill the roster with a lot of laid back dancers who have the chance to make “middling” earnings instead of all-or-nothing like a lot of environments are.

…where would I place said club? I guess whatever location would have a high enough customer population that would react “that’s a cool idea” rather than “that is freaking idiotic” If that’s nowhere, then nowhere it is.
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nicespice
a year ago
….but then again, probably couldn’t get away with a porn studio upstairs legally. I’m sure somebody would have already done it by now if they could.
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shailynn
a year ago
^ you forgot to mention that wherever this is located, an Olive Garden would be next door.
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shailynn
a year ago
I’m not sure about the pork studio either nicespice, nobody wants to pay to see the look on Muddys face when he cums in his pants.
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shailynn
a year ago
Pork studio - yeah that’s awesome - thanks Siri.
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nicespice
a year ago
Ah yes, Olive Garden can be a catering partner. The VIP room will offer a one of the Olive Garden entrees as well for paying customers. A dancer will go next door and pick it up. I’m sure people would love to see somebody walking in with a face full of makeup and extra high heels walking in to pick up the Togo order multiple times a day for the club’s day/midshift.
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shailynn
a year ago
^ ah yes who is harder in the VIP? jackslash after popping a viagra pill or a breadstick from Olive Garden that’s been under a heat lamp since 2pm.
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nicespice
a year ago
The breadstick can be a self-defense weapon against unruly behavior 😁
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shailynn
a year ago
^ or a dildo in the porn studio. “Don’t sprinkle too much garlic on that breadstick, you never know where it’ll end up later.”
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blahblahblah23
a year ago
Idk. I feel like places with some population base or known as a vacation spot or high pass thru traffic with no other clubs for hours are guaranteed to make money.

I also would maybe want a club somewhere more mixed race without other nearby club competition. White man clubs are so boring and depress me.
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nicespice
a year ago
Yeah, whatever club has managed to not get itself shut down through the years is guaranteed to make money just because they are grandfathered in and new competitors can’t really come in. And Deja Vu and Ricks keeps consolidating what clubs are within their chain. Some large places like Phoenix or Portland have a lot of independently run clubs—but at this point, it’s getting to where that’s more an exception.

And I found in some dancer group that some Ricks club managers are pressuring dancers to download an app called Pole Position so that clubs managers can rate our looks/behaviors, have dancers use it to clock in for a shift, how they can audition for a club, etc.

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chiefwiggum
a year ago
First you have to open in a place where there are low taxes and low regulation. From what I've seen, that's like nowhere. Maybe Phoenix? Maybe Dallas or Houston area?
Full liquor license while nude is the best, but topless only might work. Second, you need population, so a large metro area (assumes good highway system). Third, workers have to be able to work in a liquor establishment. In Chicago, 21 and over to serve alcohol, but not so in the rest of the state. Third, you need low competition, that knocks out Phoenix and Dallas/Texas.
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mark94
a year ago
Too many legal issues of all kinds. Anyone with a decent net worth would be putting it all at risk.

Buy Tesla stock and spend the proceeds on dances. Lots of them in any club you want. Fly to St Maartens. Costa Rica. Pattaya.

Much cheaper and less hassle than owning a club.
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twentyfive
a year ago
^ got to disagree with you on one point, you need to locate where there’s good competition, just like clothing and shoe stores locate in a main district, they actually attract customers that is more important than many other things, customers seeking out strip clubs generally head to areas where there are similar businesses on the idea if you don’t find what you’re looking for in one place there’s another likely spot in the area. Competition promotes traffic, and helps all.
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