Comments by Papi_Chulo (page 27)

It'd be helpful if u stated the time of arrival - i.e. a club can have a very-different vibe at 1pm vs 5pm etc

I don't recall anyone complaining about there not being details about the layout or the bathrooms. When adjudicators turn down a review for "not enough details" is w.r.t. not enough details on prices; dance-mileage; good description of the dancers; etc - I don't even recall a review being rejected bc the bathrooms weren't described. A lot of people write incomplete reviews with missing info on prices; mileage; etc - then when their review gets rejected they go to the old "how many times do we need to know where the bathrooms are"; when that was not the reason for the review getting rejected.

“… Club listings should have a persistent, editable description section to go with the address and such so the same info doesn't need to be repeated in each review …” Yeah – it’d be good if there was a more efficient way to capture basic-club-info so it doesn’t have to be repeated – but IMO there are too-many PLs/newbies/etc that don’t know what the f*** they are doing and I can see wrong/bad info overwriting good/correct info all the time (but there outta be a way to improve the current system).

My M.O. is to try and avoid plunking-down big-money w/o a test-drive first – i.e. I will almost-always opt for a single-lap-dance or two as a test-drive – if the single/cheaper LDs don’t do much for me; then I assume neither will the more expensive-option (by no means is this foolproof; but often helps mitigate getting ROBed). But then again; some clubs have their “niche” per se where it can make it harder to not get ripped-off – e.g. I think this club’s single-lap-dances may be something like 50-bucks each (?) which makes it harder to do the test-dance-thing vs opting for the perhaps more economical block-of-time – but if this club indeed has 50-dollar single-dances; then it’s unlikely I’d personally be in a club like that.

For many of us hardcore SCers; clubs like these are not real strip-clubs – they are more like party-nightclubs mainly to show-off and draw-attention of being a baller. “… Now usually at other clubs the dancer asks if I want a LD in private considering there was like 4" of singles on the floor at this point …” Actually – IME in clubs where dancers make a lot of money from rain-making or stage-tips; often times the dancers are less-motivated to give contact lap-dances – why have a dude w/ his claws all-over-you when you can make easy(er) money just shaking your ass (often w/o having to make contact or even having to take anything off) – also; often-times the dudes that hit clubs like these; especially the heavy-tippers/rain-makers; are usually not interested in dances (most times they seem to just be there to party and/or show-off being a baller); thus most dancers don’t bother asking for dances since the partiers/rain-makers are usually not interested (and the dancers can still make money from them).

I don’t think you necessarily made a rookie mistake – IMO generally one should square-out-details when extras are involved – but for the most part in clubs where contact is allowed, IME it’s uncommon to not be able to grab tits-and-ass during the dances (grabbing t&a is the norm and to be expected in most contact-clubs I’ve been to) – you just unfortunately ran into a ROB that took advantage of you already having paid for the room “to then give you her rules” – it’s the basic bait-and-switch. To mitigate the bait-and-switch my M.O. usually is: 1) it’s rare I opt for a more expensive-option (e.g. a timed-room) w/o doing some individual test-lap-dances first – my thought is that if I don’t enjoy the individual cheaper dances w/ her; then I assume I won’t enjoy a more expensive timed-room either 2) I have a “don’t pay upfront” policy – this of course does not apply to the room-fee; but I at least avoid eating the dancer-fee (which is often higher than the room-fee) if she turns out to be a dud/ROB Of course my M.O. only serves to “mitigate” getting ripped-off; not completely eliminate it – and certain-clubs have their “quirks” to where it’s harder to implement my M.O. The only thing I probably would have different from you is not opt for the pricier block-of-time-room w/o having done some cheaper test-lap-dances first. The fact no-one was using the lap-dance-area probably makes one take-pause and do what everyone else was doing (the rooms) but one would assume the guys doing that were likely regulars that already knew-the-deal/dancers.

To me there is a difference b/w a safe club and a safe area where I’d feel comfortable in both – SoFlo is not the safest area overall (nor the worst either) – i.e. off the top of my head nothing comes to mind where I’d feel safe walking in the areas where most SoFlo clubs are even during the daytime – part of the issue is that there are very few areas in SoFlo where there are a lot, if any, pedestrians; so walking-around would def make you stand-out and w/ the amount of shitty-people in SoFlo, walking around and being the only one doing-so, would def make you stand-out and kinda a target for anyone with bad intentions. Off the top of my head the only club where I would noy feel “too concerned” walking around in the daytime would be a club in Hialeah (suburb of Miami) that for many years went by the name of Treasure Island but over the last 10+years has had multiple names and for the most part has not been worth-visiting as a club (currently the club goes by the name of Taboo Miami). I grew up in Hialeah not far from Treasure Island and know that area well and I currently live in Hialeah.

"... Papi, agree with your reasons 1 and 2 of why girls hold hands back to the room. I’ll add reason 3 as ‘check this out other customers’ we are going in back, this could be you next so get in line so you don’t miss out ..." Part of me wonders if some of the dancers also do the hand-holding thing in a way to "mark their territory" - i.e. letting all the other dancers know "this is my custy/Atm - hands off bitches" :)

“… That night i was speaking the tall mixed chick i mentioned earlier and she was cool didn’t pressure me or try to husltle money out of me.for once i got to enjoy a conversation with one of the chicks and drink and smoke peacefully. …” Cool that you’re there to relax – but the girls are there to work and try to make some money so they can pay their bills – not only that, but dancers have to pay the club house-fees to work in the club so they are in the red going-into their shift – dancers and custies are there for different reasons and have different needs – so while you are there chilling enjoying a free convo; she’s not making the money she needs at her job. If one doesn’t wanna spend $$$ on a dancer they should let her know upfront – the reasons most dancers sit w/ custies and talk them up in in hopes of making the sale and making some $$$ - most dancers don’t like investing time on a custy then walking away empty-handed when they could have spent that time on someone else that would spend on her – i.e. don’t use-up a dancer’s time for free for your benefit/enjoyment while she’s left holding-the-bag.

the going-rate in Houston has tradiionally been 20-dollars per song/dance - IDK if they've changed the prices at this club but sounds like you got overcharged.

“… I feel like a kid when a stripper leads me by the hand to the vip …” Yeah – I don’t like being pulled by the hand either – to me it does feel/look like a mom dragging her kid thru the store b/c she doesn’t want the kid to wander-off – some guys like the holding-hands thing; but many dancers just pull the guy behind them like they were pulling a cart and it gives me the impression that: 1) she just wants to get the PL into the dance-area ASAP to start making that money 2) she wants to make sure the PL doesn’t wander-off for-some-reason and she loses the sale Although I’m sure many dancers do the holding-hands-thing to make the PL “feel special”/liked as if they were a “real couple”; etc.

I guess I read the OP differently – the way I read it was the OP was asking if someone’s physique/height was some kind of barrier to getting-dances in terms of comfort; etc – but seems almost all the responses were based on quality of dances based on how one looks. Assuming the OP question was about dance-comfort; i.e. being able to get good dances when the dancer and OP are mismatched physically either b/c of height or body-shape, I’d say I hardly ever had an issue – I’m about 5’10 and about 190 lbs so kinda avg height avg build – the few times I’ve had an issue w.r.t. a dancer’s height has been when a dancer has been too-short b/c I usually visit dives where dances are on the floor often barside on a barstool and some dancers have been a bit-too-short to be able to reach and give a good-grind if I’m sitting on a barstool. I tend to usually prefer shorter-women since I prefer them curvy/voluptuous and often the shorter-girls are more-compact and look/feel more curvy/stacked – although when getting barside-dances on a barstool the taller-girls can often give a better-grind. Most of us figure-out what works best for us w/ experience – if a dancer is too-tall, you can ask her if she can take-off her shoes (although I think that may not be allowed in some clubs at least if the dances are out in view) – some clubs’ dance-sofas/couches are too-deep even for an avg height guy – in some clubs I’ve actually pulled a chair from the main-room into the VIP-room w/ me or asked the dancer to grab a chair from the main-room but sometimes the staff may say something but if u explain u just wanna use the chair for dances and will bring it back the staff will sometimes say ok and sometimes not (IME a chair w/ no arms are usually good for getting dances b/c there are no obstacles – generally IME if a chair is comfortable for sitting; it sucks for getting-dances and vice-versa). I’ve also have moved the sofa/couch around when possible and have used the backrest to lean against while I’m standing-up and she grinds on me also standing-up in front of me (w/ her shoes-off) kinda as if we were doing-it doggy-style. If the dance-area is private; one may have some options of doing things differently – if the dance-area is out-in-the-open, it can be a bit harder to modify things.

I don’t run into dinner-requests by dancers too-often – IME it seems it’s often the PL doing the asking – on avg IMO/IME dancers seem to want to keep their non-club, and club, lives, separate; not to mention many have obligations outside the club (S.O; kids; school; other job; etc) so they may not have the time and/or wish to invest their free-time w/ more “work”. I also don’t think that most dancers that do propose dinner do so to “get a free-meal” (although I assume some do) – IME/IMO most rather just be making money – IMO most dancers that agree to dinner often do it to keep a regular-happy or win-a-regular – and some hustlers will say yes to dinner then after dinner tell an unsuspecting/inexperienced PL they have to pay them for their time where the inexperienced PL thought she was gonna fuck him but the hustler never had that intention (although this is not that common but does happen).

"... Are you saying to name them or not ... Not name them (there are various reasons for this) - nor describing them in a way that they can be identified - there aren't that many Ukrainian/Russian dancers in SoFlo especially at Scarlett's dayshift which is often slow/low-dancer-#s (good-chance the Ukranian/Russian you described was the only one at that club at that time - if one for example says they got w/ a Cuban-girl a Diamond Dolls then that's a different story since Cuban-dancers are the majority at most SoFlo clubs.

^ yeah - this review not only has incorrect-details; but very scant details - me thinks it's likely mead-up BS to get the free tuscl-VIP

And yeah; complaining about being groped in a UHM club like this where fucking-and-sucking is as common as a g-string is like complaining about getting-hit when playing tackle-football (it's the nature of the beast).

IME/IMO this club has traditionally been a bit more rambunctious than other Pompano clubs - not to mention that nightshifts generally tend to be less-mellow at most clubs (and why this place gets a lot of dayshift reviews) - given our complaints; you'd probably enjoy Cheetah-Pompano more; especially on dayshift. you can give Booby trap a try on dayshift and it'll likely be a bit more subdued especially early-dayshift; or try Cheetah Pompano which is usually a bit slower-pace than Booby trap

Not sure now; but pre-Covid the upstairs VIP-seating-area was free to sit at b/f 7pm. Also pre-Covid, there were private-VIP-rooms downstairs that were smaller but also cheaper than the private rooms upstairs (not sure if the smaller/cheaper downstairs VIP rooms are back-in-use; post-Covid they had been taken-off-line for some reason).

"... prices for extras are lower in the afternoon as are the room prices ..." What are those prices? Or are u just repeating what u read in previous reviews?

Dancers should know not to give hickies to custies. One wonders if some of them do it on purpose as a way to get back at custies? Also not a good idea to pony up for "VIP" w/o knowing what it entails. The $160 VIP (plus dancer fee) IMO is not worth it bc given the open-nature of the $160-VIP one gets about the same-mileage as with the regular $20 LDs. There are private cabanas on the 2nd-floor but those have traditionally been $650 for just the house-fee not counting the dancer-fee (I believe one keeps the cabana for the entirety of their visit but not 100%-sure) - and not sure "how far" the girls go thus some pre-negotiation is def in order.

DC clubs have traditionally been subject to tight-local ordinances to where contact-lap-dances were not allowed - seems post-Covid these ordinances may not be being (as) enforced and now LDs may be available but seems they are poor-ROI (high prices for low-mileage). DC clubs are usually not for the hardcore SCer. Handing over one's credit-card in a strip-club can often have consequence$ and many SCers avoid this - at best there can often be charges tacked-on that one is unaware of; at worst some shady-clubs will add bogus-charge$ in some cases in the hundred$ or even thousand$ - even in some "not so shady" clubs there can be a shady-employee that may even steal your identity (it happens) - strip clubs are by nature often shady-environments designed to milk-custies; thus one should usually avoid handing-over one's credit-card to the club's owm-devices (unless one knows the club well and even then).

AFAIK this is more of a nightshift/weekend-eves club. Dallas-norm for topless-dances has usually been $20 - $40 for a single-song seems-pricey for DFW especially when the dancer is not letting u touch much (smell$ like she was overcharging u although IDK the current-state of this club).

TUSCL M.O. is to avoid singling out dancers in a review that do anything more than dances

That's why people have curtains at home and draw them - one would assume they thought they were ok that far up but perhaps there can be some nearby highrises etc - likely it slipped their mind(?) but if the people in thae stands could see them then they likely could see the people in the stands and could've/should've put 2-and-2 together. I would consider it a peeping-Tom if someone purposely put/hid themselves in a position to watch them.

Its not a peeping-Tom situation IMO when they're in view of people in public even if it was unbeknownst to them. In this day-and-age of cameras everywhere things like this can and will likely happen more often.