Comments by Papi_Chulo (page 11)

I was never a General-Hospital watcher although my older brother liked-it. I was in middle-school in the early-80s downhere in Miami – there was a large sudden population increase in Miami due the 1980 Mariel boatlift which affected the schools w/ all the new arrivals – subsequently they had to split the local-middle-school into 2 shits – 6th and 7th grades were from 12:15 to 5:15 in the afternoon – 8th and 9th grades were from 7am to 12pm (there was no lunchtime) When I was in 8th and 9th grades I’d be home by 12:30 or 12:45 pm – “Days Of Our Lives” would be on at 1pm and I got in the habit of watching it and liked it (this was circa 1983 – 1985).

^ published

Not surprising the review got posted.

Minor update w.r.t. this club that has been closed for a while. I happened to drive by this club today in the afternoon on the way back from an appointment. Club has been closed for a few years; perhaps prior to Covid but can’t remember – the club had been around since at least the 90s (perhaps longer) – it was a medium-small black club w/ 5-dollar 2-way-contact floor-dances typical of these small Miami-black-clubs. Although I mostly frequent small-black-clubs like this; this club was never really part of my rotation and w/ time I stopped visiting. At some point in the last few-years the club was renamed but I don’t recall what it was renamed to (the club’s appearance also changed a bit so perhaps it was under new ownership?). In its last few months of being open I think there was a shooting or murder that took place there – perhaps this was what eventually got it closed? The club had been around a long time and those that hit these types of clubs were aware of it. Anyway – when I drove past it today I noticed the standalone-building had been demolished and it’s now just an empty lot. Begs to wonder if they’ll build another club there but w/ the building being torn-down I assume that is the last of a strip-club being there after about 3-decades perhaps more.

the review in the OP was in the Unpublished-list. I'm pretty-familiar w/ the club being reviewed - so not that hard to spot the review as BS. I assume we'll see more and more of these AI-generated-reviews going-forward as a way for cheapskates to get free tuscl VIP.

Good comprehensive write-up. IMO $150 - $200 for a a HJ is a ripoff - downhere in Miami w/ the Cubanas; I tip b/w $40 and $60 on top of dances for a HJ - e.g if I get 3 $25-dances, I'll probably tip an extra $40 for a HJ; if I get 2 $25-dances "maybe" tip her $60 but I usually just tip $40 on top – as a custy one is better-off stating what one is willing to pay/tip vs going w/ what a dancer quotes, or just as counterproductive asking a dancer for a price – the latter will almost-always result in inflated prices.

The dancer makes 2x/song for a lap-dance vs a table-dance – of course she’s gonna wanna-do lap-dances instead.

In essence – IMO as long as it’s an experienced custy that knows what he’s doing then it’s fine – IMO it can be an issue when u have a whole bunch of newbies/tourists/etc changing the vibe and expectations of the club w.r.t. tipping. e.g. in certain clubs where a whole-bunch of rain-makers show up and that is what they do all night – i.e. in certain-clubs the girls may not “work as hard” if they are making good-money via stage-tips/rain-making etc.

An example of where excessive-tipping can fuck-up a club are the tip-parade-clubs – in some of the Cuban or Russian heavy clubs; it becomes almost a “mandate” that one tips every damn dancer that comes buy your seat (no-matter where you’re sitting in the club – sometimes they’ll even interrupt your floor-dance to get their tip) – IME in most of these clubs it seems most custies don’t like the constant tip-parade; but still almost everyone tips *every single time* a girl comes by no-matter how many times she comes by. Sure – one can say no and not tip; and that is what I usual do (I only tip the girls that interest me and that I may wanna get LDs from) – but IME, in these heavy-tip-parade clubs if you don’t tip every girl; many of the girls will see you as “cheap”; give you the stink-eye; talk bad about you to the other girls; even confront you for not tipping-on-demand – it makes it to where I will only visit such clubs once-in-while vs perhaps having them in my rotation. This is one example of where excessive-tipping can have a negative-effect on a club and one’s ability to enjoy it.

Tipping extra “can ruin it” if it’s newbies tipping b/c the think “they’re supposed to” even if the dance was bad/subpar – every now and then I read reviews of the guy stating the dance wasn’t that good but he still tipped-extra – if there are clubs where this happens a lot, then a tip can be seen as something expected/”mandatory” vs something earned – of course, an experienced SCer can handle such situations; but it can still alter the vibe of the club (if there are lots of PLs tipping for tipping-sakes). I’m not a big tipper “per se” – I prefer to spend vs tip (i.e. buy more dances vs buying less and tipping extra) – but I almost-always tip extra for dances if: 1) dances are cheap ($5 or $10) 2) I get above avg mileage “for the club” – e.g. if it’s a 2-way-contact club *and* I get some titty-sucking; good-amount of stick-shifting; etc; I def tip-extra – if a dancer doesn’t go above and beyond I don’t necessarily hold-it against her as long as she still delivers avg/typical mileage for that particular club, but I usually don’t tip extra for avg/typical club-mileage/2-way-contact

+1 for Follies Atl Also Inner Room in Cocoa Beach Neither club was perfect but both offered great ROI and one could spend multiple hours in them w/o getting bored. b/w 2014 and 2017, about 3x or 4x per year, I would make the 3-hour drive to Cocoa Beach from Miami – Inner Room was the reason I made the drive but I also very-much-liked the laidback vibe of Cocoa Beach and it being so different than the Miami zoo – on the drive, about 1/3 of the way to Cocoa Beach; once I was past/out-of South-FL/Miami-metro-area; I would already feel more relaxed.

So "VIP" is basically an open couch area? And girls will still do BJs even though they can be seen?

Pretty-soon we'll have to change the website's name to "MUSCL" (Muddy's Ultimate Strip Club List)

Every now and then I get a bit surprised when I see a club-review of a club that hasn't been reviewed in 3, 4, or 5, years - I usually assume if I see a club that hasn't been reviewed in 4+ years that it is closed and just hasn't been removed from TUSCL.

In my 10+ years on TUSCL I don't recall a good/great club "popping out of the blue" *and* that had been around for a while (a year+). I can "maybe" see that with a black-club since those tend to not get the same amount of airplay on TUSCL.

IME: 1) Cuban-dancers don’t tend to be heavy-drinkers 2) in many clubs where the dancers are constantly pushing for drinks; IME means they often get some cut of that and why they push it I would not be surprised if something like that goes on here – I’ve read multiple-reviews of dancers in this club asking custies to specifically buy them “tequila” – me thinks they are just being served water (most custies could probably not tell the difference from looking at it) – in clubs where dancers are constantly asking for drinks to be bought for them; if they were getting alcohol in those “drinks” they’d probably be smashed every shift; which I assume is not what most dancers want since they are there to make money not get smashed (plus again the M.O. of the Cubanas is to make money; not get smashed) – in most other heavily-Cubana clubs it’s rare the Cubanas are constantly pushing for drinks yet they do here and seems specifically “tequila” (not to mention tequila is a more of a Mexican thing and not that much of a “Cuban thing” per se; i.e. it’s not as if tequila is the go-to drinks for Cubans b/c it’s not).

I haven’t been to this club specifically; but in the 20+ years I’ve SCed, and having SCed in 120+ clubs; I can’t recall a club where one can just sit there and not buy a drink (unless it’s a non-alcohol club that doesn’t sell alcohol b/c they don’t have a liquor-license) – sure some clubs are more anal about it than others; but most clubs will either insist on the custy buying a drink; or at least waitresses will keep coming buy b/c that is what they are instructed to do. The overpriced-drinks are probably the #1 money-makers for clubs (especially if they don’t have a cover-charge during the day thus making the drink-sell a de-facto cover-charge per se) – thus why most clubs insist on a custy buying a drink, or at least often harass you till you do. Once can easily spend $100s in a strip-club on the girls; thus fighting the not-buying-a-drink thing is not really worth it when it’s only a few bucks – a drink doesn’t have to mean alcohol; many SCers don’t drink (especially on dayshift) thus they just order a bottled-water/soda/juice etc – most SCers that don’t wanna spend money on drinks will just buy one when they arrive and just nurse-it during the visit (very few clubs actually enforce a 2+ drink-minimum; as long as one has a drink in hand that is not empty they’ll usually leave you alone).

In the review u mention club Platinum but the review is on the Diamond Club page - which club are u reviewing?

Vivide dayshift is the closest thing to Follies. Diamond Club is probably #2. Kosher to read reviews b/f visiting so u know how to navigate those new-to-you environments.

Talking about ROBs - check out how some newbie got financially-raped at tourist-trap Tootsies Miami in today's (Su 5/7/23) posted Tootsies review - sad AF (and he's not even sure he got ROBed - SMDH)

Maybe upscale Cheetah ATL (nightshift) may have some GA Tech coeds - zero ITC-mileage but perhaps u could pull an OTC/SB outta there.

^ 1) Cubanas 2) AA 3) Whitegirls

That's got to be demoralizing for the dancers to have multiple -customers walk-in and walk-out.

Off the top of my PL-head I cant recall visiting a "trucker SC"

^ as the Lefties would say: "you can't stop the revolution"