Comments by smokeybear (page 2)

In fact, my mother used to go through Harvey when she was a substance abuse counselor, and she was terrified to death driving through Harvey in broad daylight! From what she tells me, Harvey was nothing but crack houses, meth labs, killers hanging out on the street corners with their AK-47s, MAC-10s, and Colt-45s, and lots of other scary things. If Harvey is that bad in broad daylight, it has got to be like a scene out of the 1992 Los Angeles riots at night! And apparently, Club O is open until 4 and 5 in the morning.

And truthfully, Club O Gentlemen's Club sits in a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad neighborhood!

@motorhead You have forgotten about another highly terrorous criminal element that makes Chicago all the more dangerous; the Flash Mobs! Flash mobs are the ultimate urban terror in society. Unlike gang members which often concentrate their attacks on members of rival gangs, flash mobs concentrate their attacks on INNOCENT people ONLY!!! Flash mobs come in All races and colors, they attack in huge groups, even of as many as 30 to 50 people, and they attack like vicious, hungry wolves. AK-47s, TEC-9s, baseball bats, chains, and all! Flash mobs are even highly known to attack Chicago's transit system, too; buses and trains, and they are practically brave enough to be serial cop killers, too! The Flash Mobs attack in practically all areas between gang territories/gang turf areas and the entire Downtown area (including the Loop) as well. Staying in groups offers no protection from flash mobs. The main motives of the flash mobs is often robbery, followed by homicide and assault. They shoot, beat, and then rob their victims and then leave them for dead. Most common items preyed on by the mobs include wallets, purses, ID cards, keys, money, credit cards, cell phones, cameras, and even passports.

By the way, Wrigley Field also sits in a VERY BAD neighborhood. In Chicago proper, anything south of Lawrence Avenue and east of Cicero Avenue is ALL bad neighborhoods, all the way south to the Will County border, and eastward all the way to the shores of Lake Michigan and the west border of Porter County, Indiana. And in fact, between Lawrence and Ogden Avenue, the ghetto even extends farther west, right to Austin Blvd! Within that entire area, it is all very bad, crime and violence ridden neighborhoods.

Even if you look at the website of John Walsh's "America's Most Wanted", you will see many high-end wanted fugitives that are white and caucasion. Even fugitives wanted for homicide, even multiple homicides, sexual assaults, vicious armed robberies, including armed robberies that ended in murder. You can NOT judge a neighborhood by it's racial makeup. There could be African American neighborhoods that are peaceful, and there could be White/Caucasion neighborhoods that are total no-man's lands.

Chicago may be only a third black, a third White and a third Latino, but serial killers, gang bangers, mobsters, and other criminals come in ALL races! Gangsters are NOT all Black/African American. They can also be white/Caucasian, Mexican, Hispanic, Asian, European, American, Canadian, you name it. All races and All nationalities are prone to having people who have demonstrated that they will never follow the law and are out to cause chaos. And in fact, I am not sure that I'd even feel safe going to either Atlantis or Club O in an army convoy and riding in the tank, or even in an AH-64 Apache helicopter or a Harrier Jump jet!

@chimark; Atlantis and Club O? Are you insane?! Harvey and Ford Heights are waaay too dangerous to even DRIVE through in a car! People get shot at while DRIVING in their CARS in both Harvey and Ford Heights. The Mayor of Ford Heights is in jail for drug dealing, plus it has even been rumored before that the Mayor of Ford Heights may have even been a suspected perpetrator of 9/11! In Harvey, practically half the buildings, both business and residential, are burned out, boarded up wrecks, loaded with vandalism. Dixie Square Mall stood totally vacant and falling into ruin for almost 30 years years before it was finally demolished in 2012. If you really are looking for something high end, sorry, but you are going to have to look in another metropolitan area.

Although it seems Illinois really loves putting it's strip clubs, or at least the majority of them, in bad neighborhoods. East St Louis, for instance, has a few strip clubs, but it's crime rate is practically TWICE that of St Louis proper. Nearby Washington Park is practically no better either, especially with 3 years under it's belt of triple-digit murder rates; in fact, in 2011, the murder rate in Washington Park was a totally unbelieveable, and practically no where else seen, 166.3 per 100,000 people! Even Gary, Indiana, Opa-Locka, Florida, New Orleans, Louisiana, and Camden, New Jersey are NO where near that high with their murder rates!

All Star Bar and Grill is the ONLY strip club in the entire Chicago Metropolitan Area that; 1, sits in a safe neighborhood, 2, allows two way touching during lap dances, and 3, does not make you keep buying drinks on top of drinks continuously. They have only a 1 drink minimum policy, and once you buy that 1 drink, you are good for the rest of your visit.

I'll bet there were no less than 50, if not even 75 shootings at Atlantis Gentlemen's Club in Ford Heights, Illinois in September this year.

@kappa_girl Back, butt, boobs? In Illinois?!! You gotta be kidding me! Are you serious or are you pulling my leg? I thought Illinois was too corrupted and overrun by twisted and snobby bureaucrats to allow individual clubs to decide if touching was allowed or not. Well, if you think you are serious, do you know of any strip clubs within, say, 30 miles of Chicago that allow lap dance customers to fondle the stripper's boobs? Perhaps 50 miles?

No, it is not worth going to clubs in either Chicago or even anywhere in the state of Illinois. As I have allready mentioned, and even read once in the Chicago Tribune before, Illinois has a state law that mandates a minimum distance of 15 feet between dancers and customers, and violators face stiff prison sentences and the sex offender registry.

I go to Hooters quite a bit. In fact, when I was in Fort Myers, I went to the Hooters of Fort Myers 3 times!

In Fort Myers, the law is 3 feet minimum. And I also even hear that in Tampa, the law is 6 feet. Like I said before, if you are stuck in Fort Myers, your best and closest bet is Key West.

The State laws for strip clubs in Illinois mentioned here are not distance between a lap dance and a school, church, etc. What the law in Illinois says specifically is that dancers are to maintain a minimum distance of 15 feet away from their customers. This is for within the strip club! It does not mean "15 feet minimum away from schools and churches" and the like. It means 15 feet minimum between the dancer and the customer.

Blackjacks is the #1 adult entertainment venue within 75 miles of Downtown Chicago!

Touching is heavily forbidden by Lee County Law. The kinds of behaviors mentioned at the end of this review would not only get the customer thrown out; it would also get this place shut down by the Lee County Sheriff and the Fort Myers Police Department.

Contact is prohibited at PoleKatz.

I don't care if lap dances were even 25 cents (quarter dollar) per song, and I don't even care if every single dancer in there was a 34-F! Skybox is totally unsafe, in a war zone of a bad neighborhood!

Stay away from Harvey, man! Every single square block of Harvey is crawling with ruthless killers that will flatten you with AK-47s for your wallet! Oceans is the place to be!

Blackjacks may not be as "impressive" as those south side war zone clubs (Atlantis, Club 390, etc), but at Blackjacks, you need not worry about getting blasted by AK-47 fire from a mob of cop killers on your way to and from the club.

You can still go there if you go via bicycle.

Security may look tough, but cop killers prowl the area and start mass chaos in broad daylight. Every square block of the south suburbs east of Cicero Avenue is an endless war zone.

The wands provide zero protection. Every time those guards are mowed down by AK-47 fire, the club simply hires new ones.

Ha! Who cares if Atlantis even had a zero contact policy; in fact, who cares if lap dances at Atlantis were all air dances! Even with 8 feet minimum between dancer and customer! Atlantis is too dangerous.