Question for guys who have sex with sex workers
njscfan
This is just for guys who have any kind of sex for pay, whether ITC, OTC, with a stripper, amp girl or escort (or all of the above). I'm deliberately NOT including paying for regular lapdances; I'm talking about paying for some form of sexual service. Also, I'm not including folks who spend money for non-sexual services (like having a non-sexual companion).
Here's the question: how much do you think you spend on this particular activity, on either a monthly or annual basis?
I'm looking at my accounts and wondering if I'm spending too little, too much or average. We've all heard of the weird Eliot Spitzer situation where he spent $80K in a year; presumably no one here is going that wild. But I'm wondering what most guys who screw around regularly are spending.
P.S. By spending I would include what you also have to spend on incidentals, such as meals, hotels, travel, etc. If you get relatively cheap pussy at a particular club but spend $500 a month for a road trip to get there, then please include that in the total.
Here's the question: how much do you think you spend on this particular activity, on either a monthly or annual basis?
I'm looking at my accounts and wondering if I'm spending too little, too much or average. We've all heard of the weird Eliot Spitzer situation where he spent $80K in a year; presumably no one here is going that wild. But I'm wondering what most guys who screw around regularly are spending.
P.S. By spending I would include what you also have to spend on incidentals, such as meals, hotels, travel, etc. If you get relatively cheap pussy at a particular club but spend $500 a month for a road trip to get there, then please include that in the total.
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Gas) $80.00
Hotel) $60.00/night + taxes
Food) $7.00 to $25 per day depending on my mood
Admission) zero. I have a life time membership.
Drinks) around $30 per day
Dancer drinks) around $30 per day
Tips) to door girl, bar tenders, waitresses $20 per day.
Lap dances) This can vary a lot depending on how many I get. With a very few exceptions, I always get 2 for $20. I guess that I average $250 per day.
HJ's) $20-40
BJ's) $40-80
FS) when I can get it ITC or OTC $100-150.
I guess the bottom line to be between $1,000 and $1,200. I don't spend less than the rest of you. I just get more for it. I don't do escorts or AMP's or street walkers. I am a happy camper.
Although using a completely different approach, I'm spending a very similar amount per month. For that I am getting 4 or 5 sessions of sex each one lasting about 2-3 hours. It sounds like a totally different experience than what you are aiming for, the but cost is remarkably similar.
My fave clubs, a mile apart, are only about 15 minutes from home (and five minutes from work).
One hottie was rushing and got completely dejected when I told her that even if I came early, which I didn't care about at all, that I expected her to stay the full hour (actually I've had to explain this concept to a few dancers). It was supposed to be $20 and she says I'm not working a full hour of sex for $20. I say this had nothing to do with that. You can sit and talk with me for the $20. She says she'd rather work?! Wow, I didn't realize I was that bad. She explained that it was easy for her to work than to try and talk with me.
She actually worked hard for an entire hour and really did a great job going very slow and keeping constantly excited. I gave her $40 and she was very surprised and very happy. I said to her are you sure you wouldn't have rather just talked for an hour---you know it could have been any subject that you like. She shakes her head NO and says it is way more work to talk than just keep me excited. She said white people were usually crazy anyway so talking with a white customer just didn't interest her, but that maybe she would try a little at a time and see how it works. :)
Oh, I had to drive her home which was at least 10 miles away---that was part of the deal. Figure total cost at about $60 ($40 + $20 for driving/gas/etc.).
I have more expensive as well, but usually I try and keep the price very low within my wimpy budget.
A full AMP experience can be had, IMO, for less than $250.
DickJohnson: what are you doing on here? You are not a player. My gasoline bill exceeds that every month.
CarolinaWanderer: What king of gas hog do you drive? I drive a Ford Ranger with a 4.0 engine and manual 5 speed transmition. I get 21-22/mph depending on my speed with is usually 10/mph over the limit. Bet I can blow you off the road. Yes I do have some extras.
I went last week during a trip to Northern California, and the total damage was about $625.00, so that pulled down my average expenditure. I would estimate my total expenditure this year will be about $4,500, half for sex, and half for getting to the sex.
I still go to my local strip club, but only about once a month, and on average spend less than $100 per visit. I used to spend $225-250 per visit.
You can get a completely free HIV test in any clinic and you can get the results in a matter of minutes. If you are having unprotected sex I would recommend doing it (getting tested that is) on a semi-regular basis.
GMC Envoy, Automatic, 5.3L engine, 8 cylinders, 4WD, EPA mileage 13/18, 330 torque@4000rpm, 300 horsepower@5200rpm, top speed 137 mph.
"Bet I can blow you off the road." I don't think so.
How much you spend is not as important as being IN CONTROL of how much you spend. I book a two hour appointment, get a room, go out to dinner with the lady either before or after the "main event" and hang out for a bit as well. I am actually spending four or five hours with the lady and paying for two so the ROI is pretty darn good. I do this once or twice a month depending on how busy I am and where I am traveling for work (one of the girls is in South Jersey/Philly.
I spend about $300 to $500 on a strip club visit so obviously seeing an escort costs more.
Pronunciation: \ˈrüb\
Function: noun
Etymology: Rube, nickname for Reuben
Date: 1891
1 : an awkward unsophisticated person : rustic
2 : a naive or inexperienced person
MrGie am I a rube 1 or a rube 2? I am coordinated, have visited 12 different countries and most state, so I assume I am naive to think there is good in every person. On the other hand I have 30+ years experience in my chosen profession (which is not the law) and 30+ years as a hobbiest.
Could you please clarify your statement. (BTW, ignore odes not work until you log in, so some asinine comments cannot be avoided.)
Asinine
Main Entry: as·i·nine
Pronunciation: \ˈa-sə-ˌnīn\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin asininus, from asinus ass
Date: 15th century
1 : extremely or utterly foolish <an asinine poster>
2 : of, relating to, or resembling an ass
I apply both to you, sir.
"BTW, ignore odes not work until you log in"
I'm sorry, and that's my problem because why?? Grow a thicker skin boy...
too much. I spend way too much. I was up around $1000 or $1500 a month when I was unhappy, as a maximum; and as a minimum, I can (if I try really hard) get down to zero for a month but the preceding and succeeding months will each be in the $600 range, so that averages to $400 a month.
Since I've redeveloped a plan and gotten a "future" for myself (guys might remember, I'm considering attending law school in the near future and perhaps actually getting a career, for a change) I've spent less, and wanted to spend less. I also note that I get less positive interchange with the dancers. When I was desperate and needy and essentially "just another dope," girls knew how to make me feel better. "It's OK that you're bald and short and unemployed, I love you" was their message. But now that I can kind of talk like a "real man" with some honesty ("no, this IS what I want to do, and NO, I don't think it's boring, and really, it's kind of exciting to be planning ahead ..." etc.) there's a kind of disconnect. They get dismissive and arrogant with me, "why does he think HE'S so great" is their message. This in turn fuels my interest in finding REAL rather than stripper-imaginary friends.
So having a "future" is a good thing on a lot of counts. I really wish I could GET LAID like I can sign up for a future. If I could, I'd have to say that I would be abandoning the strip-club route to friendship, and (more in spirit of the original question) the AMP route to fucking. I really feel "driven to" or "forced into" being a customer of a sex-services provider. I can't get girls in any other manner, and they're such cunts about deliberately mistreating the men who wish to treat them well, that I don't really miss the game all that much. But I do have in my mind's eye an imaginary world where I'm actually valued and treated well by females on the basis of my desirability as a human. This fantasy just won't go away ... not yet ...
So, to answer tersely: between $400 and $1500, depending on how depressed I am about my "future." Depression = spending. Optimism = saving.
Unlike BG, I think I'm more likely to spend if I am feeling relatively "up". Then I really just don't worry about it, or what they think of the fact that I am spending, etc.
When I am feeling "down" I will spend less, b/c, at those times, I find paying for sex actually makes me feel worse not better. (I think this is the opposite of most people and the normal way certainly used to be my MO.)
I don't know about the disconnect with strippers of when you are feeling relatively PL'ish versus relatively "real man"ly. As long you have the money, it doesn't matter, and they seem equally good at working it either way. Conversely when you don't have the money the strippers will be nowhere to be found, whether you feel like a winner or PL at the moment.
In any case, I always feel a huge disconnect between myself and nearly all the girls. I have no idea how they can view the world the way they do, and they same the same way about the way I view it. Sex for money is the only connection we can really make. Thank god!
So I probably spend $10-12k per year.
I used to spend far more, before I was more settled. I'd say my spending peak was probably 2000-2004, since I had a heavy cash side business which was pretty lucrative, but which faded after '04 due to changing market conditions and technology. I'm guessing I spent $75k/year during that period. It seems crazy, but wow, what a blast - that was a mix of SCs, partying with dancers, AMPS and escorts. And I lived!
Since I "discovered" strip clubs in 1989, and "pay for play" in 1991, I've probably spent $500k+ easily...
Frankly, golf still costs more, though.
O.
I guess one is not always able to guess ones true mood before hand, so accidents (and wasted money) happen. But after a while, one definitely learns there are times to avoid paying for it.
Maid service
Lawncare
Medical Expertise
Live Entertainment (music, plays, etc)
Sex
And so on...
It's just another service IMHO.
O.