I Just Couldn’t Do It

Sounds like it may be time to ditch the "pseudo GF." She won't fuck you when she's bleeding, she won't give you a blow job to hold you over and she plays games to "test" you. Frankly she sounds like a royal PITA.

Now as to your 20 year old girl dilemma, I hear that. That's a little below my comfort zone as well. Kids just don't grow up as fast nowadays as they used to.

@rickdugan to be fair it is I that won't fuck her when she's bleeding. The "let's wait until we can come together" was just another in an increasingly long list of why her days are numbered. Three days to be exact. That's my plan with an already planned cheat partner the day after tomorrow but it's time to let her pursue other options. I don't deserve her. She's too good for me. blah, blah, blah

A real baby doc wouldn’t be deterred by blood in the slightest

Well, in all fairness then I understand her position a bit more. You were withholding the sausage because she was bleeding, so she was withholding the BJ. But the testing stuff was still very bad. I'm sure there are plenty of other things too.

OK the blood thing is my issue. It's not a childhood issue or anything but a previous pseudo-GF. First I'm staying in a hotel. A hotel where I have a long history and I don't want to do anything that would ingratiate my welcome. The previous pseudo-GF lied to me twice about not menstruating when she actually was. The first time I let it slide as I caught it early. The second time the bed, the floor, the bathroom looked like Charlie Manson decorated the place. There was so much blood EVERYWHERE. We cleaned up as best we could rinsing out the sheets etc but it wasn't until later that I realized she was trying to get pregnant and had miscalculated. I tipped the maid extra well and said Bye Felicia to a very sweet girl who I could no longer trust.

Ergo, menstrual blood kind of freaks me out.

Was the 20 year old perfectly willing and also 100% civilian, no p4p or expectation of p4p on her end?

Definitely P4P.

Fuck the hardbody beauty. Use the condom. Give pseudo-GF a care package when you break up, include the used condom with the note "I did exactly as you asked."

Afterthought, during the break-up, tell her if you wanted a partner who wouldn't blow you while she was bleeding you would have gotten married already.

@gammanu. lol. She and I have a history but lol none-the-less. Time to move on regardless.

I hate going to clubs with girls. They get extra clingy and jealous. The only exception bis a dancer at her home club

@Babydoc: IME most girls don't bleed that badly. I find that simply putting some towels under them does the trick. I even used to own a big red bath towel just for that purpose. 😂 Some girls are at their horniest during their periods, for reasons that I won't pretend to understand. Besides, when I was younger and trying to be faithful(ish), I didn't relish the though of going 5 days a month in a dry zone.

But anyway, it is what it is. It also sounds like you have plenty of other reasons to call it quits.

pseudo-GF ?
What's that 🤔

BabyDoc I'm with you all the way on the blood thing never been that horny. Nope

Now on turning down athe 3 way I believe your PL status needs to be revoked immediately

OK, awake and sober now.
@rickdugan. I know you can’t see me laughing but right now I am as I remember that bloody night. Suffice to say, if we hadn’t cleaned up as best we could and the maids discovered the scene as it was, the police would have been called and I would have been grilled about where the body was.

@gSteph. Pseudo-GF = not really my GF but I treat her like one when we are together and she likes to think she could one day take that title for real. Not gonna happen.

@elmer. I think I’m still on double secret PL probation but the sad fact is that I have tried the threesome thing in the past and it just isn’t for me. Maybe I should try again either tonight or tomorrow night but I am pretty long in the tooth for bedroom acrobatics. Best to stick to one at a time.

^If you have never done the 3 some thing, my advice is being long in the tooth is irrelevant. After a few times the focus may be more male oriented, but at first, especially if one or both females are inexperienced or newbies, they are the focus and you will feel a true kinship with the pillows on the couch, since your involvement will be similar. You will get to see/do things that will cause more than one lifetime memory, but imo it is still overrated. I've done enough of them over the past 45 years to be more than satisifed, but the last 30-40 were way less interesting and it just became easier at parties to have wife do a 3 some with another couple and just grab a single lady for myself. By the way your g/f, psuedo or not, raises red flags for me, professionally and personally.

@skibum. Red flags galore indeed but she is on the way out regardless. I’ve always been a moth to a flame kind of guy. I predict I will go sometime within the next two years anyways. My personal physician told me he thought I’d make it another twenty years but he’s a known liar. He just wants to hear more of my stories – and collect more of my money of course.

Last post. Important Safety Tip/Pro Tip. I left out something that happened which now occurs to me.

First 20 is not my normal age group. I much prefer something closer to 27 – 32 so this doesn’t come up that often in my life but I’ve used this technique for years.

When encountering some young girl who tells me she is say 20 years old I immediately ask what year they were born. I do this to get a quick read if they are lying and also for the amusement of watching stripper math in public.

Now last night she said she was 20 but couldn’t figure out what year she was born. Yeah 25 minus 20 is a hard one but… Public education sucks. I laughed but she swore she was 20 and went and got an ID to prove it.

Be careful out there if you are inclined to seek out young girls. Make sure they are legal.

Two years ago a client and if we're waiting with others in the courthouse lobby for the doors to open. My client was awaiting sentencing on a statutory rape charge. In MA the law is simple, intercourse + lack of age (14) in this case = guilty. He was 22.
As we waited I kept glancing at the victim. A fellow attorney came over to chat, pointed her out and said he'd love to fuck her silly. My client looked at him and said, I'm going to jail for that, she's 14. My buddy turned pale and said l thought she was 25. Jail time isn't mandatory, but you can actually be sentenced to life in prison.

WRT to the above stories about underage girls who present as age of consent:
When I lived in Chicago, a known player in an entry-level position brought an impossible hot beauty to the Christmas Party. While blessed with a perfect body- 11/10- she had a somewhat immature personality. Upper management was laying bets that she was an escort as Josh didn't have the game (money, looks, personality) to land that quality of tail on his own.

A group of us were going to keep the party going at some bars, but Josh said his date was 20. I was tight with bouncers at a couple of places and got her in. She kind of flirted with me a little after that, but I respected Josh's claim and played everything off as banter.

We found out later she was not a pro, she was 16. Josh was 22 or 23. I never doubted for a moment that she was 20, and was even a little surprised that she wasn't 21. I never, for a moment, would have thought to check her age if I wanted to follow through on her flirtatiousness.

What if they present a fake id? The guy can still face legal charges?

Claiming to be ignorant if the crime committed isnt a defense

I'm not a lawyer, but Florida has strict liability for statutory rape and I think that's the case in most states. Florida and many other states have so called Romeo and Juliet laws to exempt some of the cases where the ages are close or other circumstances, but I doubt those exceptions would apply to many if any here. This is something most boys learn about around age 18-21 when it's likely to be a problem for them. The idea that a grown man frequenting a strip club isn't aware of the laws in their state is sad.

I'll also chime in to say that I too had a set of red towels. I may have had some hang ups about period sex as a teenager, but that's something I got over when I had my first girlfriend move in. We bought the red towels together after almost breaking our necks trying to do it in the shower to avoid the mess. Neither one of us even considered the idea of going without for nearly a week as a possibility. Period sex is off the table in a P4P context, but not at all with a girlfriend or even a pseudo one. But so is keeping a chick around who is inclined to test me or other such nonsense, pseudo or not.

Its your responsibility to know your partner is of the age of consent. Its pretty straightforward.
And the period thing is immature

If you cannot find red towels, black towels work just as well.

In Massachusetts, the underage girl can lie to you, show a fake ID, a fake passport and swear to go she is over 16 and none of it is admissible as a defense.