Avoiding Bandits with Badges

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JayhawkJohn
Missouri
On my last trip to TJ, I crossed on Pedeast and was heading to the pharmacy that's immediately across the street. With my suitcase, I am heading towards the door, maybe 20 yards away, when I notice a cop right in front of the entrance. My immediate thought was "oh shit", I have all of my money with me and I've read too much about their bandit habits. I made an "abrupt 180" and turned around to grab a taxi.

So, it got me thinking - how obvious should one be when avoiding the policia? Was I crazy to not go in the pharmacy? Do we risk more attention by going out of our way to avoid them?

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RonJax2
a month ago
I think you did the right thing.

I was just in the zona and even the chicas were warning me to be careful around the police. Carry as little cash as possible. No drugs. And yes, they advised ducking into a store if you see them coming. I feel like it doesn't look as suspicious as it might to an American cop, because in this case, both you and they are well aware they could rob you.

There was one night this weekend where we were out walking around with a pair of chicas and encountered la policia estatales. I think they are corrupt but maybe not as bad as la policia municipal. Still, the chicas took am awkwardly wide berth around them. One of them told me "Tranquillo" - stay calm.
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wallanon
a month ago
This is a serious question...have you considered what the point is where the juice won't be worth the squeeze? No judging, but there seems to be a trend in these posts lately.
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RonJax2
a month ago
Wall, I've thought about it quite a bit. The bottom line is: corrupt police are an annoyance, but it's not the end of the world.

The worst case scenario in the zona is bringing a bankroll and losing it all. If that happened to me I'd be devastated personally and probably never come back to the zona.

But that's incredibly unlikely to happen. The cops don't usually pull cabs or the zona shuttle over, and once you get to room and can safely store the bank roll, you're all set.

Most of the time you're just risking the cash your pocket. I'd be pissed if I got robbed by the police, but it wouldn't ruin my weekend, let alone the Zona in general. My reaction would probably be similar to @PutaTester, who posted about getting robbed by the police recently. I'd be aggravated, but it wouldn't stop me from enjoying myself that trip.

It's an annoyance that's easily completely outweighed by the fact that the Zona is absolutely fucking amazing, like a disneyland for mongers.
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justinyoo
a month ago
I just came back from 3 nights there (literally today) and I did see a heavier police presence by federal police (those who carry the machine guns and soldier helmets) on foot on the main street in front of HK and BT. You usually see them in the trucks driving down the alley. I don't believe those are the ones you need to look out for yet if anyone has experiences otherwise, they might know better. I saw them walking around PedEast as well. It is the municipal police I worry about.

So I was with a well known contributor who does very detailed reviews (lol) one night and he met a lovely to talk about the weather or something so I went off on my own. I have basically always stuck with HK and BT with a trip to Oxxo in the alley for drinks for the room so I wasn't as concerned in previous trips. This time I decided to check out Chicago and D&G. So that night, I carried my ID (I usually leave in safe) and I limited my cash in pockets. Reading from Puta Tester's experience, I figured I would split the cash between the front and back pockets just in case it made any difference.

I too saw the municipal police at night, it was after midnight going to Chicago Club and turned back around and waited for them to drive past the intersection. To me that is better than walking toward them and not ducking them.

I walked by many groups of federal police this trip with no issues. Doesn't mean there can't.

In future visits, I will pretty much stay in HK and a few visits to BT/Senda Norte to limit my exposure. I appreciate the reading PT experience as I kept my eyes open the moment I left the door. If was say going to D&G and saw police, I would turn into BT if that happened to me. Like Ron says, if they are taking a small part of the roll then it would suck but not ruin the trip for me as well.

Coming into TJ, I personally did not put my trip bankroll in my pockets or backpack like previous trips. I carried in my pocket like $60 or $80 to be the diversion if possible or made any difference.
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Jascoi
a month ago
Little over a year ago October I got robbed by the policia right by the arch. In the previous 9 years of well over two hundred visits I never had a problem with any of them. Now I paid much closer attention to what I'm doing and where I am and making sure that most my money is well hidden away.
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Jascoi
a month ago
*pay*
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623
a month ago
Just like anywhere there are bad cops and better ones. I drove in a couple visits ago and ended up going down a one way the wrong direction. Was pulled over and thought here I go. Guy was super nice and no issue, chatted in broken English for a bit and told me to be more careful.
If your car is registered to your Sentri/Global returning to the USA is an easy 5 or 10 min. If not count on at least a couple hours. Driving in opens all kind of opportunities and you don’t have to shlep over the border with a suitcase. Unfortunately no rent cars are allowed.
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justinyoo
a month ago
@623 - it is my understanding driving around TJ with California plates is an advertisement to be pulled over to donate to the "police fund". I personally haven't done this and am just echoing other's warnings.
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PutaTester
a month ago
Taxis and Uber is cheap enough that unless you are a frequent driver into Mexico, bringing your car in is not worth it. Plus the roads are so bad that I wouldn't want to beat it up there.

And rental cars are available on the Mexican side if you really want to drive in Mexico.
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TJVisitor23
a month ago
Oh I need to get back there, been too long.
I confidently walk straight to the HK limo/lobby when I cross no messing around, that short walk is the riskiest IMO, that’s when I have all my cash, passport and look like a target with my carry on bag and backpack. Once in TJ, I enjoy walking around and trying the food, people watching, etc, really helps break up the trip. I keep enough cash in my front pocket easily available to get me out of trouble if need be but not enough to ruin the trip.
Walk with a purpose, keep your situational awareness, dress down not up, leave the fancy jewelry, watches and shoes behind, try to walk with the flow and avoid looking solo, drunk, out of place, lost or going against the main flow. Just “blend in” as much as possible in plain sight, avoid low traffic areas and enjoy some of the other things in the area. It’s all about minimizing the risks and not sticking out or drawing attention to yourself.

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623
a month ago
Kind of like you would in the lowest rent area of any US city.
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Jascoi
an hour ago
I try to blend with the surrounding people but it doesn't work very well because I am a 6'3" old bald white guy. And I don't wear fancy clothes (or even nice clothes) usually I'm just in a T-shirt and shorts and flip flops. no bling at all either. and for 9 years I never had a problem with the policia. But I stay much more aware of my surroundings now... especially TJ cops...
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