Rizo vs. Cascadas

I've gone back and forth too. Honestly, it's not worth agonizing over, they are both pretty comparable. But here are the pros of each as I see them:

Rizo:

• VIP card is $20 cheaper (but only gets you free drinks at BT)
• Has a pool suite if you are a real high roller. (My dream one day is a roman orgy in that suite involving me and a dozen chicas. Gotta have goals.)
• Has an awesome 2nd floor balcony that gets lots of sun, overlooking Calle Coahuila and HK. It's a great spot for meeting up with a wingman for a beer before heading out to the club.
• Management at Rizo might be 10% more lax on bar fines though I'm not positive I have enough data points here, especially given the general inconsistency. It feels like they are stricter at Cas.
• Rizo is a little more quiet than Cas. If you get stuck on the 4th floor of Cas you will hear the club and that may impede your sleep.

Cas:

• VIP card gets you free drinks at Hong Kong.
• The accoutrements/amenities are maybe just 10% nicer.
• You don't have to play frogger crossing Calle Coahuila from Hong Kong. (Once, I stepped in dogshit on this trek across the Calle, ruining my new kicks. 😫)
• Has more extensive options for suites, though it does lack a pool suite.

Like I said, the differences are not worth agonizing over. Lately I've been doing Cas just because I spend much more time in HK than BT and therefore get more mileage out of the free drink perk with the Cas VIP card.

@RonJax2 Excellent breakdown my friend; couldn't have explained it better myself! If I ever come across a thread with a newbie (or really anyone for that matter) debating on where to stay, I'll refer them over to your response, because you perfectly highlighted all that one may need when making a decision.

As you pointed out, with the two hotel offerings now being so comparable, I think it really does simply come down to where you plan on spending most of your time. For someone that intends to predominantly find themselves feeding The Dragon, no doubt Cascadas is the only choice.

For me, I alternate between the two hotels on a trip-by-trip basis, making a decision based on nothing more than a figurative coin flip. Because, depending on the length of any given TJ trip, I'll typically dedicate 2-3 days total to HK, and another 2-3 days total to BT, a few of the smaller clubs, and exploring the streets of ZN for local cuisine and fun (paraditas included).

I generally stay at Cascadas. Nowadays, I find that I spend more time in the alley bars (Gold Palace, La Hacienda, La Carreta etc) than I do at HK and BT. The location of Casacadas is simply more convenient to bring girls from these bars back to your room.

Great point @devl_dawgg - access to the alley clubs is much better at Cas than from Rizo, where you'd either have to get patted down and walk through all of HK, or go around the block on Av. Niños Héroes.

@Devl_dawgg and @RonJax2 Definitely an excellent point fellas! Personally, I like the walk from Rizo to the alley bars. But I usually take Coahuila to Constitucion and enjoy a stroll up that way. Gives me the opportunity to take in more of the Zona, to grab a horchata from one of the vendors, or a few quality cigars from some of the street hustlers.

If you want a quieter atmosphere more conducive for sleeping, Rizo is the choice. If you want to be right where all the action is - either HK or the alley clubs - then Cas is your best bet. I’ve stayed in both places, and IMHO you can’t go wrong with either.

But (@RonJax2 alluded to this), a VIP card from BT is only good for BT. Whereas a VIP card from HK can be used at both BT and HK.

@OPIllini96 Excellent thoughts! Rizo "being more conducive for sleeping" is something that I don't think can be stressed enough, particularly for those that need plenty of rest and/or are light sleepers. I'm very fortunate that I've never had to take that factor into consideration, as I don't sleep much, and when I do, even @RonJax2 falling through my ceiling in the midst of a threesome wouldn't wake me up!

Have you ever tried climbing out of a jacuzzi onto a wet marble floor flanked by two naked spinners when intoxicants are involved? You have a 50/50 shot at not crashing through the floor in such a situation. Very dangerous.

Very dangerous for the wallet. Just say no to threesomes. 🚫🙆‍♀️🙅‍♂️🙆‍♀️🚫

@RonJax2 In the immortal words of a wise man: "Threesomes. Very very dangerous those."

. “ Very dangerous for the wallet. Just say no to threesomes. 🚫🙆‍♀️🙅‍♂️🙆‍♀️🚫 “. 👆🏻RonJax2 - Very true indeed, my friend 😁

I've had some great threesomes and Definitely some not so great threesomes that were a waste of money.

as to hotels i usually stay at Rizo and I utilize my Hong Kong VIP card exclusively. I think it has more value at $70 than the tropical VIP card at $50.

But when the tropical card was first $30 I did do that for a while. The Hong Kong VIP card offers more flexibility because I wind up spending much more time at Hong Kong than I do at tropical bar.

I know I have met up with a wingman who really likes the morning coffee at Azul. I'm in the minority, I know but I prefer the food at Azul over Senda Norte. I still make it over to SN for a meal every trip though, I like it, but overall I prefer Azul for the views of all the chicas outside, eating inside and the food. So that is a factor for me staying at Cascadas.

Now reading that @Ronjax2 stepped in dog shit (had me cracking up) having to keep crossing the street, I'm inclined to stay at Cascadas more....lol

I had to scrub that dog shit out of the soles of my shoes with one of those little chica toothbrushes. 😑

That was my last stay in Rizo, lol. I think I'm team Cas for now.