THOUGHTS ON THE RUSSIAN GIRLS?
rattdog
New York
take say 6 girls from any nationality. out of those 6 how many are willing to do what you like to get you off? from my past encounters.
latinas 5/6
americans 4/6 or 5/6, depending on club location
with these 2 groups this was the rate and pattern that i experienced for decades. very consistent. but the russians i can't rate. each case is going to be just so different.
based on the negatives i read about the cuban dancers the russians are hardly that much different than them. mercenary, mechanical, and to a lesser degree devoid of any personality. however, they will not undercut the prices they have set for themselves. either cough up or fuck off is their mindset.
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One tried to rip off a newbie friend, after I bought him dances for his birthday she nearly convinced him to go to the ATM and withdraw even more money for her. We confronted her, she cussed us out and walked away.
On the surface they seem much like the Cuban girls, but when you dig under the surface a bit you learn that they aren't.
For starters, they come here with the goal of assimilating. They learn the language and, quite often, ultimately find American husbands.
IME one thing that's important to know is that they don't like over-emotional men. That includes guys who are whiny, goofy or defensive. They have a very particular view of how men are supposed to act, no doubt due to the more patriarchal system that they grew up in. They are also perfectly happy to relieve silly and/or stupid men of large sums of money, without a single qualm.
They also seem cold at the outset, but they can definitely warm up and certainly know how to charm and seduce a man - if they think you're worth the effort. That means that they can relate to you, believe that you can keep your mouth shut and think that you could be an ongoing source of income.
Heck Russian strippers in the NY metro area were doing the sugarbaby thing here in the U.S. long before it became fashionable, lol. Except that they call the guys "boyfriends" instead of SDs.
Once I broke the barrier with one Russian dancer, which meant building rapport and getting her OTC, I learned a lot about how they operate. This includes how the "agency" system works in NYC clubs, the goals that most of these girls had to stay in the U.S. permanently along with the methods they used and, yes, how common it was for them to find "boyfriends" in the clubs they worked in. It was quite interesting.
I prefer girls that take their time....
I haven't encountered a lot of Russian girls like that, ever since then. But it was great while it lasted.
Kissing, slight rubbing/touching each other below the equator, licking/sucking my nipples (only time I've ever done that lol), taking shots off her boobs. I did have her number and she did mention us going to a hotel, but again, I was active duty at the time so I'll never know if anything could have really happened.
On the other hand, she got me in the middle of some drama with another stripper I regularly got dances from who proceeded to completely blow up my messages after I left that night. So, yeah, based on that one experience I'm not completely against them.
As Putin hasn't yet completely conquered Ukraine, the Phoenix girl isn't Russian.
And the agency will often have its own separate people for security… unlike the pimp who both provides security and takes a cut and is often also a boyfriend or husband nowadays.
The agency girls are a lot better than your regular pimped out escorts… usually prices are lower.. and service is better. Agencies usually employ a lot more girls which allows them to reduce the profit needed per girl… for the same reasons a stripper working at the club, if she doesnt have a bf/husband/pimp, is likely going to provide better service than a pimped out hoe or escort
If you understand that and show them up front that you're not a pushover, then they're often straight shooters. I've had only one really bad experience with a Russian dancer.
He's trying to offset stripperlover777.
Also tend to agree with rickdugan on this one. There's a couple of Russian girls locally, and they are pretty much as he describes. Eastern European girls in general have a much more pragmatic view of the P4P world, and Russians are the epitome of that, with a healthy dose of "what have you done for me lately?"
It’s generally only america, maybe the uk or israel, where boyfriend and husband pimps exist. Foreign girls in other countries might be pimped, but its more likely to be by a gang.
Anytime a girls not pimped, service quality goes up and prices go down.
So the reason these russian chicks are nice is the same reason the cubans or latinas are nice.
Also, service goes UP with pimping, as the girls need to bring home cash. Scamming guys leads to less repeat business, which hurts cashflow.
Not true at all, service might go up if theyre pimped by a gang. If theyre pimped by a boyfriend or husband pimp, they wont kiss and wont do all kinds of things they consider cheating.