THOUGHTS ON THE RUSSIAN GIRLS?

You should definitely make friends with Caps...

Money-grubbing aggressive whores who don't perform up to promises.

I have always found dancers from Russia to be cold as hell, personality wise. I assume they got treated rough growing up over there.

Let me clarify. The Russian dancers were sponsored by families that attended a Russian Orthodox church in the area.

Where are you guys finding Russian dancers?

North Jersey

I like the Russian girls. A girl who is my second ATF was Russian.

On the surface they seem much like the Cuban girls, but when you dig under the surface a bit you learn that they aren't.

For starters, they come here with the goal of assimilating. They learn the language and, quite often, ultimately find American husbands.

IME one thing that's important to know is that they don't like over-emotional men. That includes guys who are whiny, goofy or defensive. They have a very particular view of how men are supposed to act, no doubt due to the more patriarchal system that they grew up in. They are also perfectly happy to relieve silly and/or stupid men of large sums of money, without a single qualm.

They also seem cold at the outset, but they can definitely warm up and certainly know how to charm and seduce a man - if they think you're worth the effort. That means that they can relate to you, believe that you can keep your mouth shut and think that you could be an ongoing source of income.

Heck Russian strippers in the NY metro area were doing the sugarbaby thing here in the U.S. long before it became fashionable, lol. Except that they call the guys "boyfriends" instead of SDs.

Once I broke the barrier with one Russian dancer, which meant building rapport and getting her OTC, I learned a lot about how they operate. This includes how the "agency" system works in NYC clubs, the goals that most of these girls had to stay in the U.S. permanently along with the methods they used and, yes, how common it was for them to find "boyfriends" in the clubs they worked in. It was quite interesting.

agree with Rick.. I had 2 in Md years ago. 2 of the hottest in the club, best earners and could make you empty your bank accounts. Was able to eventually become FWB with both. They could be classy or hard core depending on mood. Both eventually landed big money husbands, popped out kids, and still hot as ever.

Usually not a fan but there some exceptions. Pretty big dancer demographic in New York. btw resident stripper member @blahblahblah23 is a russian girl.

Russian?? Nah I prefer girls that take their time....

In the late 80s and throughout the 90s there was a direct line from Eastern Europe, including but not limited to Russia, directly to the Toronto airport-area strip clubs and to the high-service clubs North of Toronto. Most had a dance background, which is why they were allowed into Canada for that line of work, a real loophole in the rules enforcement at the time. I'm sure they eventually closed it but for a while it meant that a lot of artsy young women, who knew darn well what they were getting themselves into, would fly over for six-month guest visas and make a lot of money stripping. Most were built like former ballerinas, but a bit more soft, no striations but a very long line to their legs and body. For me that was ideal. Small breasted, long-necked, and wise about men. I really got to like them, they looked younger than their worldly experience might have belied, they had this other-worldly air that wasn't exactly Mandarin or Mongolian but somehow slightly sloe-eyed, like, a mix of European class and Central Asian exoticness.

I haven't encountered a lot of Russian girls like that, ever since then. But it was great while it lasted.

I've only seen one Russian dancer in an Okinawa, Japan club and she certainly was not mechanical. While no real extras happened with her as I was active duty at the time, she definitely took it upon herself to make our time together enjoyable.

Kissing, slight rubbing/touching each other below the equator, licking/sucking my nipples (only time I've ever done that lol), taking shots off her boobs. I did have her number and she did mention us going to a hotel, but again, I was active duty at the time so I'll never know if anything could have really happened.

On the other hand, she got me in the middle of some drama with another stripper I regularly got dances from who proceeded to completely blow up my messages after I left that night. So, yeah, based on that one experience I'm not completely against them.

Bourbon Street in Phoenix has a fairly new dancer from Ukraine, goes by Lydia. She’s gorgeous, great body, and very friendly, just relatively low mileage and no dice on OTC. She enjoys talking about her getting acclimatized to the US and to Phoenix culture and temperatures. The second time I saw her in the club, I was amazed she remembered my name and that I was from Tucson. I’ve known other dancers for years that can’t remember my name, so that was cool. I usually get dances from her because she’s so friendly, even though her mileage is limited.

axdd,

As Putin hasn't yet completely conquered Ukraine, the Phoenix girl isn't Russian.

aww dude. if that girl is from ukraine it's highly advised that you refrain from even asking if she's russian. happened to me at work. they get pissed at that type of shit. even if they speak russian. unless of course of you like look seeing looks of death.

Putin’s invasion is why she fled the country for the US. Plus, she speaks fluent Russian, so I didn’t see the need to split hairs on geography.

Question of which language she speaks -- most Byelorussian and Ukrainian people I know (in civilian life) spoke Russian growing up, either as a first language or, less often, as the necessary second language for schooling and career. I have a friend who is a mathematics professor from Minsk who doesn't understand Byelorussian well enough to read it. ("Byelorussian" "Belarus" which one is right nowadays?)

Rick how does the “agency” system work? Are you referring to escort agencies having their girls work in clubs? An agency is simply a company that hires girls to be escorts and takes a cut of their earnings… there might be a pimp behind the scenes but the agency structure makes it such that it can operate like a small business, the owner of the agency doesnt have to establish a personal connection/relationship with the girls the way a pimp would.. he just hires them as employees…

And the agency will often have its own separate people for security… unlike the pimp who both provides security and takes a cut and is often also a boyfriend or husband nowadays.

The agency girls are a lot better than your regular pimped out escorts… usually prices are lower.. and service is better. Agencies usually employ a lot more girls which allows them to reduce the profit needed per girl… for the same reasons a stripper working at the club, if she doesnt have a bf/husband/pimp, is likely going to provide better service than a pimped out hoe or escort

And there ya have it, guys...Pimping 101, from our resident expert rickthebigdick.

I more or less agree with Rick. I've had a lot fun with Russian dancers, but they come from a place and culture that is unkind to soft women. So, they often have a sharper edge and can be a bit more ruthless.

If you understand that and show them up front that you're not a pushover, then they're often straight shooters. I've had only one really bad experience with a Russian dancer.

@Rod8432: "You should definitely make friends with Caps..."

He's trying to offset stripperlover777.

Also tend to agree with rickdugan on this one. There's a couple of Russian girls locally, and they are pretty much as he describes. Eastern European girls in general have a much more pragmatic view of the P4P world, and Russians are the epitome of that, with a healthy dose of "what have you done for me lately?"

Any foreign woman is going to be better because they havent been influenced by the american pimp culture.

It’s generally only america, maybe the uk or israel, where boyfriend and husband pimps exist. Foreign girls in other countries might be pimped, but its more likely to be by a gang.

Anytime a girls not pimped, service quality goes up and prices go down.

So the reason these russian chicks are nice is the same reason the cubans or latinas are nice.

The entire Russian sex worker segment is controlled by organized crime. In what world do you think Russian girls are not pimped?

Also, service goes UP with pimping, as the girls need to bring home cash. Scamming guys leads to less repeat business, which hurts cashflow.

^they may be but working for an agency isnt the same as being pimped.

Not true at all, service might go up if theyre pimped by a gang. If theyre pimped by a boyfriend or husband pimp, they wont kiss and wont do all kinds of things they consider cheating.

The pimped girls and their pimps arent smart enough to recognize the value of good service/good customer service.

A lot of times they scam together- like a thief version of a serial killer couple