This review adds nothing...

Cookiesandcream
I got some feedback I'd like to open to a discussion. "
This review adds nothing to previous reviews - could have just been a single sentence of "Club is pretty- much the same" - might as well sat "FYI water is wet"
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I completely agree! I was fully honest in my review and normally I would not have written it. The problem was that I was thinking of going out this weekend and I could not view any free reviews anymore. Thought it was silly and searched for discussions and saw some discussions on how I must contribute and participate and not have things for free. The only way to participate is to write a review or pay $10. So that was participation in full of an honest review of my recent visit to this club. I always contributed when I had something good to say and something worth mentioning to my fellow clubbers. I've written when I had a new experience that's a worthwhile review or information. Forcing someone to write a review can inundate a portion of reviews to lots-of-nothing or made up experience to try to see a review.

This is one of the unintended consequences of this new setup but I'm happy to oblige. Whatever works. At the time I presented with two options. Write a review of a club I've visited recently with nothing really new or... Put my credit card into a strip club forum, which if you ask me to do that you might as well ask my why I don't give my card to a stripper to take out some money for me.

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Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
What u are basically doing is trying to get-around/game the system – u wrote gibberish just to get the VIP which is about the same as writing a fake-review to get free VIP – since when is someone entitled to free stuff – this is analogous to Whole Foods giving free samples; then they stop doing that; but shoppers feel they are entitled to the free samples so they open food items to try them.

The intent of getting free VIP is to encourage people to contribute WORTWHILE content to the site; not to freeload off of others.

If one runs out of VIP then u run out of VIP – like any other time-limited offer.
Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
“… At the time I presented with two options. Write a review of a club I've visited recently with nothing really new or... Put my credit card into a strip club forum, which if you ask me to do that you might as well ask my why I don't give my card to a stripper to take out some money for me …”

This site has been around for 25+ years and ran by the same person – there has never been a single-complaint of the site-owner ripping anyone off and many of us have been here for years (and some TUSCLers have even met the site-owner in person at a club).

So u are accusing the site owner of potentially stealing from u yet ur ok stealing from him by submitting BS reviews.
Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
I can’t remember – but I don’t think the free-reviews was a thing back-in-the-day? I don’t recall when that became a thing (or if it was always that way) but in hindsight it may have been a mistake since now it seems many people seem entitled to it many of whom often just lurk and don’t contribute nor wanna pay.
Cookiesandcream
2 years ago
While I agree with some of the substance in your take, I disagree that it was gibberish and trying to get around a system. I could have easily expanded on my review to provide the exact experience I have described before, so I prefaced with saying this review is useful for those asking if anything is new. And then went on to describe what if anything is still good/bad. It's worthwhile for those visiting again. Obviously not you, but it wasn't written for you. Many others approved of the review against your opinion.

Your basic argument is arguing that Noone should have anything for free. Okay if that's your philosophy and how your take on everything is. I will always contribute to add value. This rule makes it harder but I'm willing to give it a try and succeed. My argument is that it might have unintended consequences none of which you addressed. Will it fill reviews with less than desirable opinions because it's forcing the value under a lock and key.

BTW,
I don't care how trustworthy you think founder is. I work in security for IT infrastructure. I laugh at your "I trust him" comment. I won't even get into that. You do you with that.
Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
Your review was of Cheetah Pompano which has a ton of reviews and has pretty-much had the same M.O. for years – it’s one thing to write a review to state something has changed; but u wrote a review to simply state that nothing had changed of a club that has close to 500-reviews, and close to 10-reviews already this year alone which is only slightly over-2-months – it was obvious u just wanted the free VIP and didn’t wanna go thru the legitimate ways of doing it. U didn’t even barely give any club details – the review was basically “everything is still the same in the club”.
Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
If one enjoys reading informative reviews; then one should help out – reviews don’t pop out of thin air – others took the time and effort to write them – this topic was recently discussed in another recent thread:

https://app.tuscl.net/discussion/82045
misterorange
2 years ago
@cookie - I'm not quite so eloquent as Papi so I'll just say FUUUUCK YOUUUU !
Cookiesandcream
2 years ago
Okay, I don't fully disagree with your point. But your disregarding my argument I made on my last statement. Like I said I will contribute information and try to make it valid and useful. Useful to as many people as possible but might not be useful to you. The new process is a bit tedious but I can put up with it. I wanted to just open up an opinion and I got yours.

Misteorange,
Very well put. Ill have to ponder your responce and get back to you.
Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
When I first ran into TUSCL I was put-off by having to be VIP to read reviews – thus I put off becoming a member for a couple-of-years whenever I was Googling for strip-club-info and TUSCL would come up in the searches.

At one point I was gonna travel to another state and wanted club info thus finally decided to become a member but at the time I paid for VIP since back then there was a lifetime membership VIP option and at the time I wasn’t interested in writing reviews.

Reality is TUSCL is a small niche website and has different needs to keep it successfully running and worthwhile/helpful to PLs.

As the great John F Kennedy once said - "Ask not what TUSCL can do for you but what you can do for TUSCL "
Cookiesandcream
2 years ago
Lmao! Love it. JFK really knew how to put bitches in check. Probably had more puss than all of us combined.
whodey
2 years ago
I'm not surprised someone would stoop to this level and submit a worthless review like this, but I am surprised 6 out of 7 VIP members who voted actually approved the review. I really think we as members need to do a better job of weeding out worthless reviews. If our existing members keep approving shit reviews like this then we deserve what we get.
Pussylicker2
2 years ago
Many reviewers seem to approve. I'm going to get a debit card just for this site.
Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
You could put some cash on a Vanilla Visa and pay that way. You could also write an article, which is how I got my current VIP.

You could also just go to a strip club without the benefit of research, which remains how the vast majority of people do it now and how everyone went to strip clubs pre-Internet and pre-TUSCL.

And THEN, you write a genuine review about that visit.

I know that this is going to sound crazy-pants kooky, but I've gone to strip clubs hundreds of times, had a fantastic experience, and didn't use TUSCL ahead of time. You're visiting a titty bar, not researching a masters thesis.

The reality is that many new users (and trolls) used their free views to cobble together completely false reviews that sounded just genuine enough to slip past adjudication. So, free views is gone now.

Founder has provided three routes to VIP. Two cost nothing but require minimal effort. The third is $10. Or, you can visit a strip club sans notes, research, and mind maps and figure it out when you walk through the doors.

It's not an onerous burden.
wallanon
2 years ago
"I don't care how trustworthy you think founder is. I work in security for IT infrastructure. I laugh at your 'I trust him' comment. I won't even get into that. You do you with that."

Why does it matter what work you do? If you're that smart you could've written a better review, or known how to find a good time without reading the reviews of a bunch of slobs you look down on. Or afforded to buy a cheapo gift card to pay for access. Or written an article about your about the security flaws you see in TUSCL. Something other than getting pissy because people told you the truth about something you already knew was an issue in your recent review.

"I disagree that it was gibberish and trying to get around a system. I could have easily expanded on my review to provide the exact experience I have described before..."

Writing about your authentic experience is always a good call. Every trip is unique so maybe there was something interesting that you could key on for that review. No names required. I didn't go read your review so I'm critiquing something I haven't read. A lot of my reviews are comparing the club I was in to other clubs I've seen. Not everybody likes that style of review, but some guys like to eat the same food all the time and good for them. I've seen way more clubs than I've reviewed, and haven't written a review in a while because it takes motivation I don't have anymore to write a decent one that isn't too specific to my experience. Now maybe that's what the OP was trying to say, but what I got out of it instead was sour grapes.

"...so I prefaced with saying this review is useful for those asking if anything is new. And then went on to describe what if anything is still good/bad. It's worthwhile for those visiting again."

Don't overthink it. There's a lot of submissions I see where people are commenting on the review guidelines. I stopped voting on reviews because plenty of dudes around here seem to like voting and I got tired of reading a bunch of grown ass people whinging about clearing a really low bar to get a review posted. We don't care what you think about the process. It hasn't changed in years so it isn't new, other than requiring more yes votes than before.
Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
"I got tired of reading a bunch of grown ass people whinging about clearing a really low bar to get a review posted."

Yep.
drewcareypnw
2 years ago
I don’t understand how you can’t let go of the $10 yet you’re about to go drop $20 to $40 a dance on strippers. If $10 is something you’re worried about, this is the wrong hobby for you.
twentyfive
2 years ago
I was thinking to myself as I read your review, why are you entitled to anything, FFS a small fraction of what you spent in the club could have paid for VIP, and If you're so worried about your CC get a prepaid gift card, easy peasy, instead you come on like a spoiled brat, to complain.
Dolfan
2 years ago
Don't make yourself a victim of the change to eliminate free reviews. Instead, take the opportunity to add value to the equation. Then, everyone benefits.

You point seems to be: "You made me write a review to read reviews, so I wrote a shitty one." The problem is that stems from a entitled attitude, much like the strippers you went on your little rant about. They're thinking "You're gonna make me give you a dance to get money, so I'm gonna give you a shitty one." That same entitlement is driving the poor behavior that benefits neither party. Instead, if you approach the situation with the attitude that you're going to help the site operator and fellow members by providing insight into the club so they can get the same benefits you're seeking from reading the reviews, then you take a few more minutes and write a more useful review and both parties win.

You don't have to write a fucking novel. But don't just rehash high level concepts of a club that are well known. Pick one or two things and go into detail. It sounds like you've been to the club multiple times and read reviews for it, take a few minutes and add your unique perspective and opinion on the matter. Tell us about prices for everything, maybe that's one detail. Give us your take on the talent, do they all have the same characteristics and if so describe them, or is there a wide variety, etc. Maybe you're like Pussylicker and all you care about is if they have valet, you could give us the details of how parking and entry works if that's your jam. If you're familiar with other clubs in the area, a little section comparing/contrasting them is always a safe bet and something I personally find very useful. You don't have to cover every aspect in painstaking detail, but some sort of detail or value should be there.

That said, your review wasn't THAT bad. But I agree with Papi in that it added nothing. If I had never been to the club & read your review first, I really wouldn't know shit about the club other than its consistent. I'd have to read other reviews to actually learn about what they do consistently and then determine if I like it or not. I'd be able to ascertain that it's consistent from reading multiple reviews anyway, which basically negates any value provided by your review. I saw it and just didn't vote on it because it was meh and it kinda felt like it was gonna generate one of these threads.



Dolfan
2 years ago
BTW, your review of Scarlett's was better. Could have included more detail on something, but at least it provided your perspective on some unique aspects of the club.
Hank Moody
2 years ago
You got something of value to you for free for a while. Now it costs some time to earn VIP or pay cash, again, for something you agree is valuable to you. If you don’t want to pay or write reviews, fine, but nobody is forcing you to write reviews. And it’s not all that hard. Even your review that you half assed got approved.
wld4tatas
2 years ago
I read the review in question - Cheetah Pompano by Cookiesandcream. He actually made a decent effort, word count of about 370 words, broken into sections Ladies / Staff / Club. It could have included a few more details, like drink and dance costs (though repeated in almost every review), or better yet a description and name of 1 or 2 of the dancers. But it definitely wasn't gibberish.

There's a lack of standardization on expectations / requirements for reviews here. I've read many reviews that seemed to add little more to previous reviews. It's partly because clubs that are well-reviewed already have covered all the pertinent details many times over. If I had to think of one element to emphasize to include, it would be to describe at least one dancer in detail - appearance, personality, quality of dance, etc.
wallanon
2 years ago
"Don't make yourself a victim of the change to eliminate free reviews. Instead, take the opportunity to add value to the equation. Then, everyone benefits."

Thanks, Dolfan. I forgot that anybody could get a small number of free reviews per day for a while.
twentyfive
2 years ago
^ I don’t think anyone cares, it’s just the OP making an issue because he’s a bit butthurt over the criticism.
wallanon
2 years ago
"I don’t think anyone cares"

It's not about caring, but it is acknowledging that there may have been some underlying issue other than someone getting butthurt. Whatever I've put elsewhere on my thinking about writing reviews hasn't changed.
BGSD3100
2 years ago
The problem with saying, "everything has already been mentioned in other reviews" is that yours is the most recent review and now I have to go searching for other reviews until I find one that's informative. And if the site still allowed a limited number of free reads, that would have wasted one. That's a moot point now, but the lack of info in your review is still an issue. As I said, I will read the most recent review first. I doubt I'm the only one. Saying nothing has changed isn't useful to me as I have never been there. Your review will help me decide if I'm going to try the place or not. Your review is lacking in information that can help my decision. I don't know the cover charge, I don't know drink prices, I don't know private dance prices.

You said that you wrote this review to get access to read other reviews. Imagine if all the reviews you read were as lacking in info as this one is. I'm certainly no expert in writing reviews and gotten the dreaded "not enough details" plenty of times. But, when I write a review, I try to provide the information that I want to see when I read a review.
booty_lover92
2 years ago
If you want a free forum go to Reddit. You cheapskate.
Brahma2k
2 years ago
“ As the great John F Kennedy once said - "Ask not what TUSCL can do for you but what you can do for TUSCL "”
LMAO, that’s hysterical. Hey, no doubt JFK would have been a GC goer if he could have kept it anonymous.

I don’t see an issue with a new (re)review every three or four months. SCs can change fast including closing down. Tuscl members and guests just stopping by for knowledge can potentially use that updated info.

I’ve used tuscl before but only been a member a short time. Imho if you are becoming a member, a temporary bonus for a review is a great idea. More recent reviews the better. The review guidelines should require parking cost, cover charge, number of stages, cleanliness (furniture is good, floor is clean etc), number of dancers, dancer types breakdown, drink cost, lap dance cost, VIP cost, mileage experience, describe VIP area (I want to know if it is barely more than a bench with dividers. If it ain’t got a curtain then I’m a hard pass). Ultimately one of the best pieces of info IMHO is your 2 to 3 hour cost breakdown. Parking + Cover + 5 average drinks and tip + tip/friendly money to spread + smallest time span VIP cost including average tips.
Being able to know size, cleanliness, what 2 to 3 hours typical cost will be, that’s invaluable.
ilbbaicnl
2 years ago
Don't you also get access by writing an article? The advice one are usually useless, but the funny/unusual stories ones add something to the site.

My paid lifetime membership was some of the best money I ever spent.
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