Are dancer concepts of a good lap dance different from the customers view?
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
I have to say yes. I want, expect and get high mileage dances at my favorite club. When I don't I am disappointed. I am rarely disappointed there. But it happens. New dancers float into the club all of the time. They promise great dances but wind up being lame by the clubs standards. I have had some tell me that "If you don't like it you do not have to pay". But I always pay. I am not that cheap! I just avoid them in the future. My last encounter was a couple of months ago. She promised the world and when it was over she asked "How was It"? I was honest and replied "Less than average for this club". 6 months ago, I was doing a 2fer and it was so bad that at the end of the first song, I just tossed the $20 on the couch said "This isn't going to work" and walked out.I find that it is girls new to the club that disappoint. They do not understand what the competition is doing or had previously worked in clubs where the mileage was relatively low. When interviewing dancers new to me I always ask how long they have been working at the club, how long they have been dancing and where they worked before. This isn't perfect but it does help. I understand that every dancer has her limits and accept that. I just don't want to be promised and then not have those promises met. I have one favorite dancer that I consider to be low mileage and boy does she ever tell you that up front. Chandler, you know of whom I speak. She has worked at the club for several years and she remains on my favorites list because of her personality and looks and she can do an exotic dance without getting nasty. Has time increased my mileage with her? Yes but not enough to raise her in my ratings. She is near the bottom of my list of 20 or so but will remain on the list. I some times get surprised. Mileage on the first time that I would never have expected and they go to the top of my list. It's still a crap shoot!
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But the experienced girls know what the guys want. I don't think the basic concepts differ.
I classify dancers into 2 categories: 1) Dick Centric, and 2)Dick Avoiding.
Some girls just resist the idea of embracing fully the Category 1 style, and we must encourage them to do better. :-)
When you think about it, all our social training is in the direction of the "dick avoiding" category, and it makes sense that most women, even strippers, would be inclined in that way. Unfortunately, that gets them little of my money. As I have told several of you privately, and perhaps said on this board, if the first dance does not involve some substantial contact with my dick (albeit still in my pants), there will be no subsequent dances. At clubs where there is some discount for multiple dances, I am frequently asked, at the beginning of the session, how many dances I am getting. I always respond by saying, "I'll have to see have the first one." That seems to work to get me the kind of dances I like.
Unfortunately, a lot of dancers think being young and hot is enough. However, to quote the dancer I most frequently patronize: "These young girls think they will make a lot of money because they are cute. Cute don't mean shit. The main thing the guy wants to know is, what are you going to do for his dick."
I could not have said it better myself.
If I know a guy is going to spend money regardless of little effort on my part, I go far enough to keep him spending. Otherwise, I go my limit (that is, of course, unless club rules or local ordinances forbid me from doing so). I almost always ignore what other girls are doing, and regard most customer complaints about "how all the OTHER girls..." as hearsay. It all comes down to how much money I leave with at the end of the night: if I make satisfactory money, I stay. If I don't make satisfactory money, I find another club.
them worth a shit unless you are willing to spend $300-500/hour for private service. I have been accused of promoting my favorite club and I accept that. My TUSCL buddies know that I am not bullshitting them. I helped to get it into the top 10 and I know that it deserves to be there.
Would using their knee against your groin qualify as substantial?
In high contact jurisdictions, odds are quite high, at least when you're paying for a nude level dancer or any 15 minute session, that her naked clit will be rubbing up against your (still covered) dick - however some girls simply do it better than others, this is what happened to me in a club when my low 30 something foreign born ATF for that club was absent, which is very rare for her - so I end up with this (not typical for me) 100% american girl, very pretty and very shapely blonde and when she told me her age "I'm just 19" - right in the middle of the dance, I came close to losing it, which normally I would never do in such a situation. Some kind of evolutionary thing working I would guess.
High mileage meant a lot to me when I was a pimply teenager trying to get around the bases on dates. It doesn't mean that much to me anymore. I've done it all too many times to still be defining my fun by which bits I touched, sucked or poked. I get my fun from the overall experience and the intimacy I reach with a stripper. If that goes well, then the mileage usually comes with it anyway - as much mileage as anyone who makes a big deal out of it.
Would using their knee against your groin qualify as substantial? "
Yes, even the dreaded knee against the peter counts. My experience is tha girls who will, early on, make some contact with the dick will escalate that contact on subsequent dances. However, I have also found that girls who will not touch the dick with any part of their body on the first dance will not breach that gap on subsequent dances.
For some reason, I have always found rubbing their head against your crotch--the infamous "skull blow job"--to be particularly offensive, and that _does not_ count as "substantal contact". I think I find that maneuver particularly offensive because it is two removes from anything real...the first remove being contact between the dancer's mouth and your covered package, to mimic a blow job...and the second remove being contact between her head and your package, to mimic contact between her mouth and your clothed package. It is a bad imitation of something that, in itself, is a bad imitation of something good (a real blow job), and that really pisses me off.
I usually ask "new" girls about what other clubs they have danced at. If they say this is their first experience, then I change to my "I can tolerate anything for one dance" mode, because usually her technique has not been perfected. There are occassional exceptions, and it's always a "golden moment" to find a newby who gets you confused with her boyfriend on the couch.