Opposite Trajectories
sinclair
Strip Club Nation
I was back working in a town I spent a lot of time in during the early days of my career. I was staying at 2 or 2.5 star hotel because I came in on late notice, and the better places were all booked up. One of the housekeepers I ran into in the hallway was a stripper who used to be one of the main attractions at the local titty bar. Guys used to practically fight each other to get dances from her. I even spent hundreds of dollars on lap dances with her back in the day. We had even exchanged phone numbers, but I never had the balls to call her up for a "hotel party" since I knew she had a boyfriend she shared an apartment with. Fast forward to November 2022. Now she was looking rough. She had smoked heavily her whole adult life. I would guess she was now at the very least in her mid-30's, but could very well have been 40 too. I last saw her dancing about twelve years ago. I talked to her in the hallway, but I don't think she remembered me. So this is the fate of an old stripper: cleaning toilets and putting sheets on beds. I also tracked down another dancer from that town who I had a thing for back in the day. She was now in her 30's and working as a desk girl at an auto repair shop, probably making much less money than twelve years ago when every guy wanted to hand over their weekly paycheck just to feel her up in the VIP room.
For all the dancers that tell you they are going to use their strip club earnings go to college or nursing school, few actually do. Many don't have the aptitude for a highly skilled job. Others have criminal records or addictions that will prevent them from ever getting a good job.
It kind of dawned on me that strippers and strip club patrons are on opposite trajectories. For many dancers, their best earning years will be in their 20's when they are young and beautiful. For many of the men that go to strip clubs, their best earning years will be in their 50's and 60's when they have moved up the corporate ladder and gained experience and prestige in their particular field.
For all the dancers that tell you they are going to use their strip club earnings go to college or nursing school, few actually do. Many don't have the aptitude for a highly skilled job. Others have criminal records or addictions that will prevent them from ever getting a good job.
It kind of dawned on me that strippers and strip club patrons are on opposite trajectories. For many dancers, their best earning years will be in their 20's when they are young and beautiful. For many of the men that go to strip clubs, their best earning years will be in their 50's and 60's when they have moved up the corporate ladder and gained experience and prestige in their particular field.
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The most successful stripper I know was my wife's best friend. She invested in property when she had good stripping money and also became a jeweler. She now travels the world selling her jewelry and also doing things like teaching yoga and meditation. She has some money but doesn't really care about it. She's a free spirit just like she was as a stripper and can live that life because she actually made wise investments with her stripping money.
God bless America !
Shhhh…don’t let the TUSCL practitioners of ageism (El Duderino, Icee, 48Cowboy) hear that!
She lived in Michigan and was a chubby school teacher. Her friend was a stripper who worked in Vegas and this girl divorced her verbally abusive husband, lost 40 pounds and turned into a knockout, moving to Vegas raking it in.
Her goal was to save up enough money to be able to afford to buy a house (paying cash) in San Diego then become a teacher again. She was well on her way making as much as 30k in a good month in Vegas. I’m pretty sure she was also a high end escort as well. All was going well and then COVID hit. I always wondered what happened to her. I was in Vegas last month but didn’t go to the club to see if she was still around.
I hope she’s one of the ones that does well. No drugs, ate healthy and rarely drank.
Lots of hot women would do sex work, but their dubiously-worth-it SOs won’t accept it. And/or, due to superficial thinking, they overestimate the chances that being a “good girl” is going to pay off or really be appreciated.
If I had to guess who is the most successful person on TUSCL, my guess would be nicespice. She seems to get it that you have to figure out what success means to you, not seek success in the eyes of others. She doesn’t have the bitterness/self-importance/smugness/hostility that permeate TUSCL discussions. A reason, BTW, that somebody like Trump is only a qualified success to me.
Many strippers do the opposite. They make great money in their 20s, spend it all, and have no marketable skills once they age. Not all strippers, but many.
I had a weird moment a while ago when I went to a nice hotel for an OTC. When I got to the front desk, a woman came out from the back. She was obviously in a managerial position. She was also a former dancer that I'd taken out for OTC before she retired (she still looked good!). We exchanged knowing looks and she probably knew exactly why I was there. Anyway, neither of us felt the need to have an awkward "Hey, small world...right?" conversation. But I did get a room upgrade at no extra charge. I thought that was nice.
The dancers that I see repeatedly over time tend to be on the higher-functioning, more practical side. I might get distracted for a while by a hot party girl just for the sexy fun time, but I go back to the smart ones. I'm greedy; I like women who are enjoyable with their clothes on or off.
I think that dancers learn how to read customers pretty well after they've dealt with hundreds (or thousands...). If you're a customer, there's also some of that. I think that a lot of us have spent enough time with enough dancers where we can suss out who's probably going to stick the landing and who won't.
I don't see this as universally the case. Like CMI, I've known plenty of dancers who transitioned from stripping into middle class married lives, a variety of small businesses and other professional careers. Heck a bartender at one of my local clubs owns two rental properties in addition to her own house, all courtesy of money she made stripping. I've seen plenty of other examples as well.
With that said, I will agree that this is likely true with a majority of dancers. But to me that's not something to celebrate. I genuinely feel bad for any girl who gives the best years of her life to this thing and accumulates all the baggage associated with that, but has nothing to show for it at the end.
If they are pretty, though, they get a few years making a lot of money as a stripper. Since looks and youthfulness in women is so highly prized, young women have it better than young men. Most high earning strippers, though, don't seem to be very aware that they will be at that earning peak for only a few years.
I’ve known one former dancer for over 25 years. She had maintained a dual life of office work during the day and dancing at night. I think she understood there was little chance of fellow banking folks finding her evening pursuits - as she danced in a somewhat rough club in Northeast NJ. I was fortunate enough to stumble upon her on a drunken night out.
It took her a long time to move fully away from dancing - and transition to corporate office life. She has gotten a number of plastic surgeries to assist in keeping her looks (as she ages in her 50’s). She looks very good and she’s doing well in her civilian career. She still has lots of issues - especially those Daddy issues - but she’s likely one of the exceptions.
Another dancer I’ve known for at least 20 years, through family, has not made the same transition. She kept dancing into her 40’s and she is one of those who has dreams of show biz fame, that won’t go away. She remains a good looking woman as she ages in her early 50’s, and she is sober, so that’s great. Hopefully she will be able to find another way to make a living very soon.
The last story I have is of a dancer who didn’t get out of the biz, and how it hurt her. This dancer is another one who looked great and stayed in great shape as she aged beyond her prime dancing years. She was recently arrested for prostitution and drug possession. I have only known her for about 6 years. She was a bit wacky - but a very sweet person. I think she needed to get out just before Covid hit, but she got hit hard financially. Sadly she got into the drugs, and more than just using them as party favors.
I don’t take OTC girls back to my place anymore…
I never chained girls to the walls anyway - only the exposed overhead beams.
The one with her daddy issues in her 50s- are you able to accommodate her daddy issues despite also being in your 50s? Or does she need men in their 60s or 70s?
I have no idea what a lot of my other former favs are doing, so those 2 may be an exception.
Some of these women can look very good in their 40s
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