New to SC scene. Need advice on discussing extras with dancers.

Treat them just like you would any other woman, never like vending machines. And the "extras" concept is not a good way to look at it.

Welcome to TUSCL.

SJG

Ok, I appreciate that comment. As you can see, I am totally new at this.

Can you give me some minimal guidance on how to approach this? Say a dancer asks me if I'm interested in a VIP private dance. Do I politely ask her about her comfort level with touching? I certainly don't want to go into a private dance and create a problem by putting my hands where the dancer won't be happy.

For what it's worth, I am not totally new to TUSCL. I posted a review of Cheeta's in Sunnyvale a few weeks ago here: https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=385067

@OP, read these 111 rules for strip clubbing
https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=58034

Then read some reviews to find out what's available at the given place. You can try asking "what you do back there." If so, get specifics or you're fixing to get scammed. There's always a risk you'll get ripped off, but it jumps tenfold if you don't get specifics.

I just whip it out at the bar and staple 3 100 dollar bills to John Henry and wait for her reaction. Usually she says something like, "You need to staple more bills but what you have to staple it too isn't big enough for the extra paper". Then I just go home and do a VIP with Rosie Palmer

gedman, strip clubs are fine tuned well oiled machines for separating marks from their money, and San Francisco is one of the worst metros because it is controlled by Deja Vu.

No self respecting guy would want to spend much time in strip clubs.

Is there something about the women in strip clubs that makes them appeal to you above and beyond other women? If your answer is no, then you need to be someplace other than a strip club.

If on the other hand they do have some special appeal to you, then you can indeed be waking up with them in the mornings.

I for one would never talk to any woman the way that Tetradon is describing.

SJG

@Gedman, just look at which of us is on the "top reviewer" list (me):

https://tuscl.net/top40.php?id=8

Or the "top ignored" list (him):

https://tuscl.net/member.php?id=408818

Gedman, my earlier comment aside. Just keep it simple. Be yourself. If you suck with women, buy her a drink, ask her questions, don't be weird, be funny, and don't let her control the situation. Treat her like you on a normal date but only for 15 - 20 min. Then pretend like you are at the end of a normal date when you want to fuck your civvie but be smooth and not weird. If you want to get extras, say "I like you and I'd like to spend some private time with you. Tell me about the VIP?". Follow her lead to an extent but don't be afraid to ask more specific questions. I would not be so bold as to say "I want to blow your head off with my creamy load.". But complement her lips and say something naughty. Pros might get specific if it's a known extras club.

Try to get as much of a commitment about specific activities offered as you can. I don't do ITC much but when I did and I was in a club for a first time this was my approach as a freshly minted PL.

And most importantly, DO NOT be afraid to say no, walk away, and seek more dancers. You can almost always come back to her later.

Oh and gedman, if you are an ugly ass fat bastard three times her age with a small dick don't sweat it. She's more interested in the bulge in your wallet not your pants. And don't forget, often her questions are designed to determine if you have money, if you are safe and won't kill her, and if you might be a repeat customer. So I do what I can to reassure her about one and two and three depends on her quality of service.

gedman, as you can see there are a multiplicity of views here. Generally, the more time someone spends in strip clubs, the more of a pathetic loser he is.

I suggest listening her to what Jimmybigtits is saying.

SJG

Yeah I'm just trying to give him advice assuming he's a shy newbie. Obviously more experienced guys will accelerate the process. Or if you are a known quantity in the club they know what you are after and you can cut the deal in five minutes. But if he's new that's how I'd do it above.

But I've always wanted to try the $300 stapled to my Johnson

My main point is resist any temptation to treat the women like vending machines, FemBots, or anything else which means prostitute. Treat them like ordinary women. Don't act like they sell sex or sexual experiences.

In some venues the women will push things very fast and get to results. But unless they push it this way, you don't have to.

SJG

Gedman it might be helpful if we knew what type of bar this is and your experiences there up to this point in your PL career

^ he that he plans to go to San Francisco Crazy Horse.

SJG

tetradon's list is a valuable resource.

too many times strippers promise anything to get new guests into the VIP, then rip them off with an air dance.
never pay an unknown stripper in advance.
start with single dances if still interested after asking what you can and cannot touch.
if you're not satisfied after two, ask if she offers anything else for a tip.
those that are willing to give extras will let you know. otherwise move on.

that's as far as i'd push it on a first encounter. many are on the lookout for LE stings.

Best thing is select the one you want, preferably the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with. Demonstrate generosity and charm, then get a Front Room Feel Up And Make Out Session going. then and only then invite her to the back room to continue, they take her home with you and bed her regularly.

SJG

Jane - School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdWq4w8D…

@Gedman, actually, consider the source of any of this advice.

SJG is a creepy ass motherfucker, probably homeless, likely schizophrenic and autistic, in any case unable to access the internet after 6:30 pm PDT, or on Sundays and public holidays. We had a welcome break from him throughout the pandemic. But at least TUSCL keeps him away from small children and animals throughout the South Bay. And 100 yards away from schools and Chuck E Cheese's.

He has delusions about creating some kind of creepy rape cult; he's been talking this shit for nearly a decade yet can't provide an iota of proof it exists outside of his head.

Surest way to get under his skin is to speculate on something regarding his offline life. He acts like it's because he's some super secret CIA operative, but really it's because it's a painful reminder of how bad his life sucks. It drives him to make these graphic, autistic threats. I've invited him out to where I live (Massachusetts) to carry out his threats, but I doubt he could afford the Uber to SFO, let alone the flight. He has admitted he won't.

But despite this, he's made a lot of oversharing revelations about his life. I'm fairly new compared to a lot of others, but he fucked up his marriage due to weird sexual proclivities that included strip clubs, and the divorce in turn fucked him up even worse.

His "advice" about giving women money but not buying dances or extras sounds pretty fucking comical. Like I gave Whole Foods $100, and they gave me $100 worth of groceries out of generosity. If that made your head spin, welcome to the club. Instead, listen to someone who sounds like they've been in a strip club in the last decade, or isn't a total creep, that is, most anyone else here.

Hope I didn't scare you off too bad, we fight a lot here, but most of us find ways to get along over our love of T&A.

However, some of us should come with warning labels.

Peace.

Gedman, you can see that this board is full of trolls, and so it is hard to discuss anything.

My first suggestion is that on this board you have to maintain a high privacy wall, one which is protected by electrified wire and claymore mines.

Fortunately strip clubs are nothing like these trolls you find on this board.

SJG

^ He makes my point so well, so quickly

I hate this topic because you just communicate. You ask. Nicely. The way you'd want to be asked.

Having said that, here's a pro tip: Many girls are reluctant to discuss extras if they don't know you because they don't know if you're a cop seeking to bust them (and the club) for solicitation. That concern abates greatly if you've already touched her bare tit or ass. Just don't be a jerk about touching either.

This thread is helpful already. Thanks to everyone who has commented thus far.

For what it's worth, I'm a decent middle aged guy, take good care of myself (gym daily; not a fat slob) and can easily carry a fun/pleasant conversation with any woman. Not weird or quirky. I have money to spend; $200-$300 for a good fun evening. I am only interested in mild extras (touching).

Any additional suggestions/comments are appreciated. I'll reciprocate with a good club review for TUSCL (like the one I did previously) after I visit the club next week.

It's like asking any other woman if she'll fuck you for 💰

If it's a club where extras are common, just ask. Most won't be offended or upset (as long as you're willing to take no for an answer). I find that it's better to ask before going to the VIP to set expectations but that's up to you. At a club like the old MBOT dancers would be quite explicit and up front, laying out the menu as soon as you got into the VIP room and sometimes out on the floor. When I used to frequent CH back in the day it was a step down on the brothel scale but I had plenty of offers on day shift. No idea what the place is like now that Deja Vu has taken over. The last few years I was in the Bay Area I saved my strip clubbing for vacations and business trips - much better value than SF.

Typically the terminology is good one way contact (she touches you, rubs her butt on your crotch), good one way contact (you can touch anywhere but her naughty bits), with extras being anything beyond that. Many strippers are bigoted against escorts/streetwalkers. If you ask one of them for extras, you're asking them to be a prostitute, and they will get mad. Some strippers will offer extras before you get a dance. Some will offer them after you've spent some amount of money and provided some amount of repeat business, perhaps over multiple visits to the club. How much varies a lot between dancers. And some never do extras.

Don't ask. If she's feeling up on junior, take him out and her reaction will let you know if she's down for extras. If she's repulsed apologize and act drunk(use a drink as prop)

Tincan the only thing I do differently than what you describe above is I carry a magnifying glass and just keep it in my knee so she can see my meat more easily. If she takes the glass off my knee, it's a queue to ask for extras. Of course being born with extra would have been nice too

“I am only interested in mild extras (touching).”

You have a very different idea of what extras are than most of us on this site. A mild extra to me would be a hand job or a titty fuck.

gedman, I am glad you are finding this thread valuable.

Of course there are different idea amongst our members. Overall I would say that you never want to treat a woman like a prostitute or like money buys her. And likewise, in a strip club it is best if you can identify the one you want outside involvement with. And you don't have to ask permission to move on her, not necessarily. Best is if you can just get her to follow your lead and let it happen.

Welcome to TUSCL and please do keep posting.

SJG