Strippers vs Whores - which is a better value?

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David9999
In PC lingo "dancers vs providers"

Aside from engaging in fundamentally different acts, this is a complicated question with no easy answer because among other things it enters a realm that can present troubling moral issues for married patrons, issues not necessarily presented at strip clubs. Now there are some legitimate experts (e.g. Yoda) in here who do understand the nature of the equation presented.

Except for AMPs I don't have the experience to answer the question with any real expertise, however its my impression that the trend is for AMPs and regular "providers" to keep getting better, and for strip clubs (particularly in light of a rigid price structure) to keep getting worse in terms of the entertainment value offered

I place a very high value on "stripper shi..t" and that's hard to duplicate elsewhere, so even taking that into account, it seems whores might win this battle

If AMPs add a bit of the GFE experience, and can also add bedrooms (I've heard of places in NYC area that actually have this) instead of clinic type massage tables -that would be a plus, plus a little AMP type SS would be a real positive - and I've noticed some of that already



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MisterGuy
17 years ago
I'll take a whore any day of the week. The FS strip clubs that I've been to in Canada pretty much beat anything that I've seen in the States so far, even in RI. There is something to be said though just for having the strip club experience of looking at, touching, and talking to a pretty girl without getting any extras. I've only tried out an AMP once recently, and it was anything but "clinical" and was, in fact, very GFE (if my gf didn't speak English very well that is...lol). Outcalls are always fun too...especially with a stripper friend!
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chipitin
17 years ago
I'm curious, where are FS strip clubs in Canada?
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Book Guy
17 years ago
Toronto area. Look up Seductions in Niagara Falls, for example. And many in the south Province Quebec area, an hour's drive from Montreal. I recall a name with Diana in it, something like that. You can get all you want to know from the reviews here. Which are all fiction and should never be believed, by the way.

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MisterGuy
17 years ago
The several FS strip clubs that I've been to in Canada (Quebec specifically) have been mostly on the south shore (south and east of Montreal island). I've never been to any clubs in Ontario, but I have heard that there are some FS clubs just over the border from Quebec and in the Niagara Falls area. I've reviewed a bunch of FS clubs so far on this site.
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wondergrl5
17 years ago
All I have to say is Amsterdamn!!!!!!!!!
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David9999
17 years ago
http://www.bkkescorts.com/dar/index.htm

Amsterdam maybe, but for sure Bangkok. Basically most USA strip clubs would be out of business if those kinds of services with that level of quality were available in the USA at that price. Of course they have a lower cost of living etc, so no need for strip clubs to worry too much
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Book Guy
17 years ago
If you guys are looking for overseas options, you should consider first a trip in this hemisphere -- Brazil: Sao Paolo or Rio de Janeiro, or somewhere in the Dominican Republic, or somewhere in Costa Rica (small country anyway) first. People are starting to rave about Argentina as well. There's info all over the internet. I recommend Club Hombre, seems to be more comprehensive and helpful than most other sites, many of which tend toward the advertising-related rather than the information. Lots of guys want you to hire them so they can lead you and a group of your bowling buddies on a tour of Pat Pong nightlife, and they have websites with videos and links directly to the bars which give them a kickback. CH is less mercantile.
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chandler
17 years ago
This one's easy. Whores charge a lot of money for something I can get better for free. Strippers charge less for something I can't get anywhere else. Isn't the reason we're on this board because the return we derive from strippers is endlessly interesting to talk about?
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Book Guy
17 years ago
That's not the reason I'm on this board. :)

And whores don't offer something I can get better for free. If I could, I wouldn't see whores. :(
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Book Guy
17 years ago
Or strippers, for that matter. :)
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Carioca
17 years ago
Mister Guy, where on this site are your reviews of the FS clubs?
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David9999
17 years ago
Look, lets cut out the bullshi.t, unless you born with a pussy, then no matter how you look at it, you are going to be paying for sex somehow
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chandler
17 years ago
I take it that was directed at me? Yeah, I suppose there's no such thing as an absolutely free fuck. So spare us the old argument about how the drink I pay for is ultimately no different from handing a hooker X amount of dollars and so on. My point is that fucking is a commonplace part of life which (practically) everybody does, like sleeping or eating, and I enjoy it fine that way. I see nothing wrong with paying a whore to fuck her. It just wouldn't appeal to me. Strip clubs, on the other hand - when they're good - are exciting for me and unlike any other experience I know of at any price.
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MisterGuy
17 years ago
I've heard the Dominican Republic can be pretty rough. My dad took a trip there once and was told not to leave their resort hotel without an armed escort. Some of the dream-whore vacations down there sound tempting though.

Carioca, just click on my name and you'll link to all my reviews. I'm usually pretty frank about what service's are available at each club. Any other questions, just ask...
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AbbieNormal
17 years ago
Are you looking for a fuck or a lapdance? That would seem to be a rather important distinction. If sex is your goal I'd say it's pretty obvious that a whore is a better value. Is that really a difficult concept?
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chandler
17 years ago
I would say that having a particular goal is the distinction. Who makes a lap dance their goal? I see them as a pretext for having a good time with hot babes. OK, I suppose you could say that's my "goal", but it's a pretty open-ended one.
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AbbieNormal
17 years ago
Chandler, you hit it pretty accurately. Which is the better value, a bicycle or a car? It pretty much depends on where and how far and fast you want to go, doesn't it? You can't really separate value from what an individual values, can you?
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David9999
17 years ago
Champagne rooms (with bouncers hanging around), with sessions is a cubicles or cubicle sized "room" on small bench style or regular couches (if you're lucky) in most upscale Strip clubs cost in the range of $400 per hour and sometimes higher, which is precisely the range (or often lower) for a 1st class "provider" handling a GFE session in a luxury hotel room in most major cities in the USA. In fact there are independent (nearl 10 level) escorts in major cities pricing at around $250.00 an hour

Setting aside any moral issues, and assuming the strip club experience is not with a ATF whom you enjoy, my guess is that escorts if they actually did it GFE style would be a better deal assuming maximum contact is the goal, unless one thinks (typical session) grinding and SS talk, maybe a HJ if you're lucky - outweigh what normally would be BBBJ or BBBJTC, and nearly always DFK and varous other extras thrown in

Alternatively one might compare typical one hour strip club ATF experiences vs typical one hour provider AFT experiences

Basically there is nothing that an escort is prevented from doing that a stripper normally offers - plus the escort obviously can offer alot more and the stripper can offer nothing more

Strippers might have an edge if one truely enjoys an ATF type and there is some authentic mutuality or reciprocity to the "relationship" and you can engage in ITC SS and general conversation for example for an hour or so sandwiched in-between 15 minute (Lets say costing $125 each) limited VIP sessions, assuming you throw them a few more 20's here and there for their time etc
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MisterGuy
17 years ago
These issues are exactly why I mentioned the FS strip clubs that I've been to before (both in the U.S. and Canada...I know there are many others worldwide)...you get the strippers (for those that want that level of contact or experience) and those same strippers that are willing to do what just about any "whore" will do (granted the stripper-whores do it for considerably more money per hour than an escort usually costs). To each his own...
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Book Guy
17 years ago
I really like that option. I like selecting the merchandise, even sampling it, before buying. That's my preferred M.O..
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David9999
17 years ago
I think someone suggested Chicken Ranch is also running a strip club, so I would guess that might be something like an FS strip club. However their site doesn't mention this. By the way, their whores, on the site at least, tend to look a bit on the tired side
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Book Guy
17 years ago
All the Nevada brothels have women who are "on the tired side." It's regulated, perfected, commoditized and corporatized sexuality. The prices are literally quadruple what you can get on a street in most big American cities, probably triple the going Las Vegas rate. For what? I think they prey on the underinformed and on the timid. Most men who regularly patronize prostitutes would think of going to a Pahrump brothel as the worst choice of them all. Aside from the extremely wealthy elite 1% of the male John-spending public, the remaining 99% of their customers are likely the men who haven't read up about some basic info on a sensible adult consumer advocacy site.
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FONDL
17 years ago
Massage therapists are the better value. Just ask Bones.
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