Professionalism and strippers is just not a sexy combo

Lazy Nice Girls for me too.

My definition of a Professional Stipper is one that can empathically emit 100% attraction even while actually having none.

That other PS is just a cunt.

Good topic, btw.

DG

The real professional acts like the lazy girl but never forgets that the meter is running. And is so good at it you can’t tell.

The lazy girl is so much more fun! The less professional - the better.

Unless a pro does extras - and fucks like a beast - I’m not interested.

Traveling dancers are professionals. I don't have much use for them.

I think it's more accurate to say that the girls who feel the need to constantly project their "professionalism" are the ones who tend to be the least fun. Tbh though I don't mind these girls so much. All intel is good intel ITC. A girl who projects that vibe is doing me a solid by letting me know upfront that I shouldn't waste my time, energy and/or money on her.

The ones who I look out for are those who are true professionals, meaning that they give off all the right fun vibes but, when the rubber meets the road, will never really be that much fun. By "fun" I mean an eventual OTC candidate as I rarely handle my business ITC for any number of reasons. That's when instincts and intel collection matter a lot more.

Poll: Do you prefer the professional who uses the hourglass, the stopwatch, the chess timer or the app on the smart phone for timing dances?

I seem to knock chairs over running towards a stripper in a club that looks like a normal girl. You know they type that looks like someone’s hot girlfriend in lingerie. Normal make up little to no tattoos and her hair is one color. These girls are never usually higher than an 8 but that’s okay with me.

Candyman I prefer the one who stops when her ass is too sore to continue.

Nothing is filthier than a girl with loose bowels who has taken several in the back entrance over the course of the night. When I can almost feel her bite her lip as I push inside. Her moans are muffled screams - and even when I spit a big glob on my cock - it still doesn’t provide the pleasure she desires…

^wow, crazy story! Gets the heartrate going way too much, i think my resting heartrate just went from 70 to over 100bpm by the time i finished reading.

Yes, some of those sex toys are just far too large to compete with, and thats okay to accept. Some of them are like over 12 inches long and 7 inches thick. If shes been plugging those in her ass all night, a real cock wont provide much sensation! But the point then wouldn’t be to have anal sex with her, there’s meditative benefits attained from peering into her gaping ass!

For me, a "professional" stripper is one who doesn't make promises she doesn't intend to keep, and doesn't lie about what she does or doesn't do. She also doesn't get upset or judgemental when she and I want different things or can['t come to an agreement.

George, do you mean otc or itc? What kind of disagreements or different things would be relevant ITC?

The lazy girl act js a good hustle and most fall for it

BigThirdEye is the LDK82 of sex toys. You like them. We get it.

I'm ok with the "by the numbers" dancer hottie unless two things happen. Sometimes they'll get frustrated if I don't seem to be blown away from their charms. A lot of those girls look picture perfect from a distance, and I usually go for the "I'm new here" or "nice guy no touch" if the hottest girl in the club is first on deck at a new club. If she doesn't show much potential, she might get a second try for a second dance but usually gets a polite thank-you-bye after one dance. Then I get to see an unusually pretty RBF from the pro when a girl next door type has a good night on my lap instead of her. Or her nemesis, the other top hot dancer who isn't boring, has a very good night cause I'm having an even better night.

The other extreme is the dancer who's hyper cynical because she's club famous for putting out. She acts like the only reason a customer ever wants to talk with her is to get his nut, and is almost always right. She sees right through every strategy and gets straight to the point. Don't bother being nice to her, she says. Don't bother trying to make her feel good, she says. She's dead inside, can't get turned on anymore, but knows how to get you off like clockwork. And will if you like, even if you feel cheapened by the experience. She's one of the most beautiful Debbie Downers you'll ever meet.

Wallanon, why do you not like it if the hottest girl in the club is first on deck and approaches you? What do you look for in lapdances and potential?

come to think of it when is ever considered sexy whenever a girl is being professional?

Does battling Pokémon while on stage, spinning around the pole, wiggling butt, etc blatantly and not making eye contact with anybody sitting down at all for the first song playing because I’m looking at my phone—also count as being the endearing unprofessional nice girl? If so, YAY 😀

"Wallanon, why do you not like it if the hottest girl in the club is first on deck and approaches you?"

I don't really care one way or the other if she's first. The obvious hottest dancer on the floor just sets the tone for the others if they see her over with me, so I try to keep it friendly even if she ends up getting sent on her way. It's unusual for the hottest dancer to be the first one in if I'm new face in the club. Usually they're experienced enough to watch others try their luck because they can catch someone's eye just by walking by.

"What do you look for in lapdances and potential?"

This one's easy. I almost never get lapdances from a woman I wouldn't bang. There are rare exceptions. Example, I was at some country bar in Canada and there was an older black dancer the locals were being very rude to. She wasn't my type (not because she was black just wasn't into her) but I still spent about $60 in dances. She wound up being a better experience than I'd expected. Then there's the girls I met through TUSCL. If I did that sort of thing, lol. I'd always spend on them, because it's only sporting to be a good customer if she knows "me" from the site.

You're all just saying you like gfes which are a professional behavior

I feel like it's a minority of vet dancers who decide to specialize in weak and stupid customers.

Personally, I deal with most potential annoying stripper behaviors by wanna dancing them within 30 seconds of hello, if they don't do it to me first. I don't go to strip clubs for charming conversation. If I felt a lack of conversation in my life, I think I'd join a bowling or a golf league or some such thing.

I've had good fun with those strippers who seem like they are trying to sell you a rip-off time share. Because I'm only looking to get what they provide when they are in the money zone. So they are willing to go off script with me, as long as there aren't vast numbers of stupid/weak PLs in the club. I find that most dancers are OK with two way contact. You just have to work with them. Some dancers feel the most relaxed if you touch then with very gentile caresses. But that just tickles other dancers, they prefer kneading and squeezing, gentile or harder depending on the individual dancer.

I'm aware there are good reasons many PLs prefer to find escort-type service in a strip club, rather than through internet sites. But me personally, I rather have just basic two way with a dancer I find super hot, rather than extras from one who's kinda meh to me. While many scoff when I say it, in my experience, that's usually the trade off you have to make. But, could just be others have been in better clubs than I have. But when you want to say that non-extras dancers are bad dancers, that seems roughly comparable to being mad at the grocery store for selling asparagus when you don't like it. Somebody wants the asparagus.

Ibba i don’t understand I thought two way contact is guaranteed with private dances. What’s the point of getting the dances if two way is just a possibility? You just get to see their body up close? In that case yoi can just sit close to the stage and tip and see an up close show

I dont know that there is any correlation of hot stripper = no extras and less hot = more extras available. It more so depends on how bad they want the money additionally the hotter strippers can likely command higher otc rates than less hot strippers

"But, could just be others have been in better clubs than I have."

There would be many TUSCL dustups avoided if more people could embrace this concept. In some parts of the country it is much tougher to get the ITC/OTC experiences we talk about as routine on these boards, especially if you're starting later in life into the game.

I'm not sure if I'm on board with this. I see no downside to a dancer who is incredibly fun in private but also manages to show up on time for appointments.

I think there's a lot of variables on what we're calling "professional".

I feel that a "professional" stripper will present like the two protagonists in "Hustlers" played by Jennifer Lopez and Constance Wu. You'll have a good time, but they will milk the clock and not the cock. You will only receive as much mileage as necessary to drain your wallet and keep you begging for extras. That is to say: you will have a good time, a few regrets in the morning about how much you spent, and the intention to return for more soon. They're hot, they're fun, they're sexy as hell; but they are (usually) not extras girls.

I don't want a lazy girl, either. To me, lazy is unmotivated, unwashed, uninteresting. I need my mind and ego stimulated as well as my balls.

I look for someone in the middle, who gives off the lady on the stage freak in the VIP vibes.

When I walk in, I don't even care about the stage. I'm not going up to the stage, I head for the girls sitting at the bar or tables. Usually the first most aggressive girls run up and I dismiss them. I mostly look for the hottest girl who appears to be receptive. The last club I went into the hottest girl came up to me second after I dismissed the first one. It turns out she's around 24 and worked there for 6 years, but she is hungry. I like that she knows the nuances and I tell her I know the whole deal so we are both no bullshit people.
We don't talk about prices...We drink...She does maybe 2 or 3 lap dances while we get to know each other. Then its off to the VIP. This girl is a business woman and very motivated...She works very hard and has nice clothes, purse, jewelry, etc and got it all herself. She is super friendly and so am I...We talk about what we do and plans for the future. I give her some advice about bitcoin...
We hang out in VIP for 1 and a half hours for the price of an hour..She is amazing in every way and hooks me up later with girls who I see ITC and OTC...I am astounded at how punctual these girls are and professional...and all of them willing to do whatever....
So I do appreciate professionalism, dedication, honesty, and enthusiasm.

Max,
Are those initial aggressive girls who come up to you right when you enter a club, more likely to be uglier or older and offer OTC

Max, many of your stories sound like you’re living a dan bilzerian lifestyle!

Yeah the Lazy Nice Girls are the best. They work as a stripper because they don't wanna have to "show up on time" and *not drink on the clock". The pros who ask for a dance after two songs of robotic small talk just aren't my style.

>>>Professional Stripper: Doesn't talk about personal life at work, everything is done up, cold, boring, fakeness, talks to you through a screen door, doesn't take her job home (or me or you), by the book, will not do anything extra because THAT IS PROSTITION, OK! Has a vibe that emits zero sexual attraction.

Hard pass.
BTW just because they don't offer extras does not make them a professional, its really not all that strange for girls to not offer them. I mean hell clubs with cameras mean extras go off the table right off the bat.