Sex toys in private dances, and reasonable prices for vip
One dancer lets me do all kinds of pussy touching but doesnt want fingers inside due to bacterial concerns or maybe secretly she considers it too intimate compared to rubbing it from the outside i dont know
I was wondering how common and easy is it to use things like butt plugs and dildos in the private dances
Does it depend on the specific club, if cameras are there, and specific dancer involved
Ive always wanted to see a hot asshole gaping! I cant wait to see it in an actual private dance setting.
I also wanted to ask, is $400 for 30 minutes of vip overpriced? What are reasonable rates for vip?
I dont know if I should continue the strip club habit, because there seem to be much hotter women available on eros for $400 an hour. So i dont know if its worth paying that at a strip club even if you get to use sex toys and get some extras.
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last commentTell us the name of the club or the location - so you can get legitimate answers.
You sound like a teen who has never seen a nude female - “I’ve always wanted to see a hot asshole gaping!”
Location is very important when determining if rates are reasonable or overpriced.
If you won’t provide more details, I will presume you are a troll, and I will no longer attempt to assist.
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Ive been to clubs with attached sex toy shops where you could buy yhe dancer toys and she'd use them in vip. I don't know if it still happens. This was maybe like 4 years ago.
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Cashman acting like a dumbest calling people trolls in threads js played out here. Not everyone is an old white republican who pays hookers and or cums in his pants. Whether a thread turns trolling or not depends on dumbasses whining about it being trolling. At least it's a new topic. So stop trolling
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Cashman im not providing the club location or dancers names
Thats far too risky for everyone involved and could cause trouble
The club only has like 30 dancers
Why are those details needed anyway? Im asking in general terms not if a specific club or dancer will allow it...
Yes i have wanted to see a hot asshole gaping, like when you freshly take a plug or dildo out of it
Those rates would be for maryland but I would like to know their value in general... there dont seem to be so many differences with escorts and dance prices
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Location is relevant because what you can expect to pay varies greatly around the country. A reasonable price for something in the Tampa area would be way less than what you'd expect to pay in Vegas. $400 for a 30 min VIP is outrageous in some places but very reasonable in others.
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"is $400 for 30 minutes of vip overpriced?"
Yes it is. But for dildos, butt plugs and gaping assholes it sounds like a bargain basement discount.
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Misterorange thanks for the input
What about $400 for 30 minutes vip, which includes the typical grinding lapdance, no pasties on nipples, dancer allows photos with no face, squirts breast milk, lets you rub her pussy all over
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I wear buttplugs during my shift. One, it catches the eye on stage.. and two, it’s fun to play with during a VIP. Of course you would have to tip more than the average. BUTT, it’s always a fun time!
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Whas the overall range for 30 minutes vip across the us
Like $100 to $1000?
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All depends on the dancer to be honest and what she’s offering! I’ve been paid $500 for a 30 min VIP with exxxtra play time (: but normally 30 min rooms can go from 250-300+
some clubs offer topless or nude rooms. I just tell them to pay for topless and I still get naked because I hate clothes lol. We all hate clubs that take a huge percentage out of the $$$$
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"I was wondering how common and easy is it to use things like butt plugs and dildos in the private dances" i have no idea how common it is but how will they know if you don't tell anyone you have a butt plug up your ass?
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Do clubs usually take 50% out of the dance fees
Do butt plugs actually make you orgasm from taking them in and out
What about the simple grinding and straddling that’s done, is it enough to get the pussy to orgasm
Some of the dancers are moaning during the rubbing and grinding
With dancers or escorts who have boyfriends or husbands do you think they usually know about their job, and all the things that happen in vip...and any otc stuff
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in all seriousness, you really do come off like a troll account but for pretending you aren't.... You have a much better chance of getting the answer if you ask the dancer and not us.
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Bob, there is someone on this board who has written about doing a girl with a bullet vibe ITC. But I don't know how common this is.
If you really want to go outside the usual ITC doings, you just need to start seeing the girl outside.
SJG
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So many questions hahah
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Some dancers have boyfriends, i have issues with my living arrangments and cant have any girls at my place. So any otc has to be done at the club or someone elses house or a hotel
SJG what do you mean by bullet vibe?
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A small vibrator, it’s small like a bullet. Runs off batteries.
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Bob you then are getting into the very issue which stops most guys from getting on with the women who dance in strip clubs. They have issues in their own life which they have to keep separated. They can't just cozy up to a girl and take her back to their own bed.
Its an SO, or its that they don't earn much money, or something.
This world is unfair, and strip clubs only do so much.
SJG
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"So any otc has to be done at the club" OTC is Outside the club, at the club is ITC, inside the club.
"or someone elses house or a hotel" Smart even if you aren't living with your parents. At least until you know you can trust her.
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I have some money to spend but one otc concern was the rates
Once you get to the $800+ hour rates its what the famous pornstars and ig
Models charge for an hour of
Apparently some strippers are asking for $1000+ for otc
I haven’t yet met any dancers i like as much as some of the famous adult stars and ig models
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You don't ever want to treat any woman like money buys her, like she sells sex or sexual services, or like she is a prostitute. Always treat all of them in a completely civilian manner in all situations.
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SJG
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So you cant ask what she charges for otc? Why not? Its too disrespectful...? You have to pretend it’s a more serious relationship...?
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#autismisreal
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Let us pray.
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Bob, you don't ever ask for anything like a price quote. She is a woman, not a vending machine.
You can take care of her with money, but you first have to get to know her well enough first.
In a strip club I would suggest that you just lead with money, hand her money as soon as you get within arms reach of her.
SJG
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? Thats rude mate
People on here act like you can just directly ask dancers about otc
I was told to keep asking about otc because dancers are often open to it
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How much money are you supposed to hand?
Thats a nice gesture, but the money would just be kept. You wouldn’t get a dance either, if you just handed her money.
I can see your point, but other posts on here are very casual about otc. It seems some people are asking directly. Like asking if she meets otc and then asking prices
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The purpose of otc is a business transaction. If you are trying to get and have a genuine connection, you wouldn’t need to pay anything for otc. Then it’s just a hookup, not an otc with a dancer.
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@siracha
If you want to see a gaping asshole, why don't you just look in the mirror and open your mouth.
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I think he'd rather gape his ass with a pie plate while standing over a mirror and looking down.
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99% of the guys who go into strip clubs treat the women as prostitutes. I learned early on how much different kind of a reaction you get if you do not do that.
Most women who no longer live with their parents are getting money, material, or social advantage thru the men they fuck. In countries other than the US, smart guys will keep beautiful women. The mistress is not a wife, but she is not a hooker either.
If you go into a civvie night club you can't just start handing girls money. But in a strip club you can. That is the reason we have strip clubs, for guys who like to be generous with beautiful women.
So consider what the dance price is, like say $20. Or in the extreme places in San Francisco it is $1200 per hour VIP, which works out to about $60 a song.
Those San Francisco places are impractical.
So you select your girl, and you make an excuse to give her money. She is not a panhandler, and you are not trying to bid for anything. You might start with a complement, but a pretty innocent one. So you might compliment her on her high heels. More innocent than talking about how big her tits are. And her shoes cost her money.
So you might say, "I really like you in these high heels, so high, and with straps to hold them on. I know you have expenses to work here. Let me take care of you."
These are your first words to her, and you hand her money, like about what the per song dance rate is. And there should be no house cut in the front room.
Play it right and you can have her engaged in a Front Room Feel Up And Make Out Session before too long, then continuing pumping a first load into her in the back room, then out the door with her to continue on a mattress and to continue seeing her regularly.
SJG
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"So you cant ask what she charges for otc?" "People on here act like you can just directly ask dancers about otc"
what are you talking about? the best advice given to you is to ask her and not us. how do you warp that into the nonsense above?
Are you having a conversation in your head we are not part of?
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People ask strip club dancers and women standing out on the sidewalk for what they offer and how much they charge. People do this.
But I would suggest not ever doing that. Just not a good way to interact with them.
In a strip club you can just hand them money. But other than that I would suggest keeping it completely civilian at all times.
You are generous with women and you take care of them, but you never act like money buys them.
SJG
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Misterorange get outta here with that nonsense. Im not sure what pissed you off this time but theres a few random people showing up on different threads just to rage out and post nonsense.
A mouth isnt the same as a gaping asshole and i dont want to see my own asshole. I wanna see a clean shaven hot ladies asshole gape
Theeosu, same nonsense there. I cant believe theres people even on a strip club site who spend all day trolling and posting nonsense.
It seems like some people get offended anytime someone new joins the site. I have never seen something like this. The site wasnt built for you, or not even me, its a strip club forum open for strip club fans to join.
@K if you scroll up it looks like Icey was claiming im autistic for wanting to ask a stripper about otc. SJG also said you shouldn’t ask for prices for otc...
Cause its disrespectful i guess, and treats them like an object or machine...
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Anytime you agree to "dances" with a girl, you have obligated yourself to pay, and you also pretty much have to let her lead it.
Whereas in the front room generally you can just be generous with her and lead it.
SJG
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SJG why say that comment of the high heels? I see your point in complimenting something besides her personal appearance or tits, but that may be too redundant... the heels having straps is just part of the design of the heels.
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A few things Bob ape:
First, I don’t know why “Mister Orange” calls himself that. I have it on good authority that he is a hairless ape, not an orangutan. So why call himself “Orange”? Bad spray tans? Who the fuck knows…just relax about him.
Second, I think you will find that many hairless ape whores are not up for strangers inserting objects in their ass or pussy. I suppose you can ask and see if she’ll agree to a dildo or buttplug that is in its original packaging, but do you really think a girl is going to take a plug up her ass when it could have bee in your ass? I don’t think so!
I hope this rick advice - “rickvice” as my lion bud calls it - is helpful. What am I saying? It’s rickvice so of course it is helpful!
Scuttle! Scuttle! Scuttle!
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SJG arent front rooms very strict on touching? You cant grab the pussy or boobs? So you can lead it but still with restrictions compared to vip?
SJG what do you think is reasonable to pay for an hour otc
How can you pump a load in the backroom. Arent there cameras and managers/bouncers nearby
Do butt plugs actually make you orgasm from taking them in and out
What about the simple grinding and straddling that’s done, is it enough to get the pussy to orgasm
Some of the dancers are moaning during the rubbing and grinding
With dancers or escorts who have boyfriends or husbands do you think they usually know about their job, and all the things that happen in vip...and any otc stuff
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"@K if you scroll up it looks like Icey was claiming im autistic for wanting to ask a stripper about otc." I think he did that because you post nonsense and it seems you lack basic reading comprehension.
I have SJG blocked. many of us do. there are reasons we do.
"I cant believe theres people even on a strip club site who spend all day trolling and posting nonsense." You don't believe you are posting?
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" I cant believe theres people even on a strip club site who spend all day trolling and posting nonsense. "
You can't? Look in the f'n mirror and you'll see him. The only guy here that doesn't know you're trolling is that mentally ill psycho from san jose.
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Of course
Im hoping this dancer has plugs or dildos of her own she can use
Otherwise i can gladly order some with her if she can help me find them
Or would it be possible to get a cucumber or bananna from the strip club kitchen, and use that! Or are there concerns of pesticides entering the asshole
Rick, are you also rickthelion? What happened to him
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@K icey said autism in response to that same comment you quoted about otc. Not the general stuff
Theeosu youll have to define trolling
Posting and asking questions is trolling? No its not, thats an impossibility
So youll have to define what trolling is to you, since you have a different definition than the normal one.
I havent seen a hot gaping ass before so its normal for me to be curious and want it in a vip dance
@K why do people have sjg blocked? Some of his comments are lengthy, but its because he puts time , effort and thought into his responses. I havent seen him insult or annoy anyone.
I cant wait to do it man. The vip with my ATF
Although i havent been to many clubs, so i wonder if I could be missing out on something better
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" the heels having straps is just part of the design of the heels."
Straps on her heels is what keeps 'em on when she is not on her feet, like in a porno movie.
Her shoes cost her money, no better excuse for giving her money.
"SJG arent front rooms very strict on touching? You cant grab the pussy or boobs? So you can lead it but still with restrictions compared to vip?"
Depends entirely on the club. Legally a retail business is a public place and so there is a prohibition on sex or lewd conduct.
Now if we can go to the membership club / private model, then there needn't be such restrictions.
But even as it is, there is no legal basis to prohibit DFKing. And most women don't have any boundaries beyond that.
"SJG what do you think is reasonable to pay for an hour otc"
That is entirely between you and the girl, whatever works. Much will have to do with how rich you are and with how high her expenses are.
"How can you pump a load in the backroom. Arent there cameras and managers/bouncers nearby"
Depends entirely on the club. Some are known for back room FS. Often the cameras are fake or not hooked up. We had an underground place here where the core group of Latinas was doing Front Room FS.
Better not to let her grind you beyond just a little bit. You want to get her off, and nothing does that like FS. If it can't be FS right then, then let her see that you are saving your load for her. SHe will know, her body will know. Sometimes if you can't do anything else with her, dance booth DATY works well. The girls are very responsive and I have seen that that always goes over well.
You will have to get to know the girl to find out how things are in her personal life.
SJG
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I want to sniff the pussy and ass too
I should have done that before touching it
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Thanks for the detailed advice SJG
That private membership club model is interesting
You mean everyone pays a fee to enter one of those private orgy club things?
The concern becomes you would have to arrange for itc stuff or otc stuff.
I heard the membership clubs are legal because the sex inside them is done for free and with consent...
It theres escorts or strippers hanging around in there wouldn’t the place be shut down quickly
Does the dancer rubbing her pussy all over your legs stimulate her and make her squirt?
What is LDKing and DATY...? What do they stand for
How would you DATY inside the vip room
What is DFKing
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DATY them, DATY them from behind in '69ing them.
But don't buy dances. Deflect with front room generosity. And get her into a front room feel up and make out session. Then you invite her to the back room.
SJG
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This was a sad read.
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I wonder if this guy siracha is that friend fake Drew Carey was talking about. The one that likes to drive everyone crazy with nutty questions.
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^^^ Buying dances is a gimmick, a chump's game.
Lap dancing did not start out that way. It used to be all front room and much more free form.
Dance buying is mostly a product of Deja Vu, and they are the ones who invented the modern clip joint.
SJG
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Sirachabob and SJG.
Alien vs. Predator... but morons.
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CMI, longest surviving brain removal patient.
SJG
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What does that mean Ishmael
Im an alien, sjg is a predator?
I don’t remember those movies,,. Were the predators humans or some other non human non alien race
SJG
what does the actual acronym of DATY and DFKing and LDKing stand for...
People are way too open to trolling and acting like total nutjobs with the anonymity of the internet and all...
Like these are genuine questions or curiosities but people still post nonsense or post just to troll
“This was a sad read”... why would you read something so “sad”?
You read the title of the thread, why even open it...?
Nonsense
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I know a sweet buttplug dancer that would probably do a quick hot asshole gaping at the stage for me just for fun. But I know her really well.
HAGs don't really do anything for me, but I can't see it being a very high tip VIP extra, unless she's jackhammering herself with it. I'll get her opinion tonight.
Eastern Iowa VIPs start around 100 for 10-15 minutes.
If I'm alone and have some chemistry with a desirable dancer, I'll ask if she ever does
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How would she do that on stage. Its fully nude there?
I would like to assist when removing and submerging the anal plug, but i could buy her a new plug if she doesn’t have one
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I been hearing about gaping a few times recently. I'm tempted to google it but I was told that I would regret it if I do. Fighting curiosity is tough.
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...dances outside the club. If so, I'll ask if they'll add me as a contact. Most dancers understand what this means. Flat out asking for OTC while in the club is not cool (unless she brings it up).
DG
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“Flat out asking for OTC while in the club is not cool (unless she brings it up).”
This is pretty silly. Very rarely will a dancer bring it up, but many are down for it if you do.
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I'm saying use some tact. Especially if it's your first conversation.
DG
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Some dancers seem they may
Throw out a high price for otc to see if you’ll accept it...
One was sayinf you have to pay a lot like over 1k or 2k
Estafador maybe it comes from anal porn videos
The guy pulls his dick out the asshole and its pulsating and gaping open
Seeing one up close is exciting! A black hole
Doctorevil what rates have you seen for otc.. what do you think is reasonable
The thing is with dancers you feel more comfortable than random escorts on the Internet sites...
Im thinking if id pay the $1000 for this atf dancer
But that price is what the famous pornstars and insta models charge. They have millions of followers.
One twitter famous escort on sites like eros and tryst, charges like $800 an hour and has an exclusive option on her site where you pay her like $30000 a month for her to stay with you. She requires 2 hours free time and 8 hours sleep per day.
I wouldn’t do it with her, but what would a stripper charge for that?! Many strippers seem to be able to pull $1000 on friday and Saturday nights. Weekdays are probably slower.
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Sorry but I can't help but to think you're all being played
Nicole 1994 is that you? Good one
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Im not playing if thats what you’re implying
I cant speak for anyone elses posts... some posts are just troll posts looking to rile people up or start drama
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This work completely different with the women who dance in strip clubs if you always treat them as you would any other woman, and not as vending machines.
SJG
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The only toy I've ever used in a VIP was a chainsaw. The new paintjob in the room was glorious.
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Not Funny
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To answer a question from very far up in this weird thread, toys would be a great way to get fired from MOST clubs.
Who is watching—anyone, everyone, someone—as every VIP room in 2022 has cameras. If you are expecting this in a private dance, also expect a high price tag.
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I don't think every VIP room has a camera, not a real camera and hooked up. And some are used to make videos, but this is just in case someone tries to sue the club over something.
SJG
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Thats bollox Pinksugardoll...
Could you get it around it by having the dancer go to the bathroom, plunge the butt plug in and out of her asshole for a few minutes, then immediately head to VIP together so you can take a look at her gaping asshole before it stops gaping
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^^^ If you have to do it like that, then OTC.
SJG
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