I disagree with closing threads after 90 days, but that troll was unbearablen. I ignored someone for the first time today (iceyloco, whose threads were the one being bumped by the troll) so now I don't have to see them. It was easy after that. But it's really annoying... ban the mf. I can't believe a grown man of any age is sitting around doing this.
I just blocked the thread bumper and the original poster of all those threads.Two ignores and it cleaned the mess right up. This crap has to drive founder crazy.
I'm feeling a bit tired so not sure if what I'm posting below makes sense.
If Founder is able to do it; perhaps TUSCL having the built-in ability to not bump threads if one has the person on Ignore - i.e. if one has TUSCLer 'X' on Ignore and TUSCLer 'X' makes a comment, then one's personal discussion view doesn't update???
Wow, he pulled that stunt a couple months ago and that shit is one of the reasons I decided to curtail my time and participation on TUSCL. The other reason is Founder giving the creep VIP access even though over 90% of us don't want him around mainly because of his posting topics nobody cares about and him doing the same thing regarding bumping them and pushing his psycho agendas.
Yeah I could use ignore but I don't because I shouldn't have to.
I'll still stop by every once in awhile but TUSCL doesn't need me and I certainly don't need TUSCL!
I was going to comment on a thread from a couple of days ago, but normal conversation is now killed. NO ONE is going to go to the effort of scrolling past hundreds and hundreds of these bumped threads to find the recent thread they want.
Someone with absolutely no life spent their entire fucking day bumping old threads.
“Someone with absolutely no life spent their entire fucking day bumping old threads”
Question for someone who knows computers. Could someone have hacked into TUSCL and automated the process? Why on earth would anyone bump this many threads manually?
@founder,
I have a question, I understand your logic regarding the two way block, I disagree but understand it, explain why threads can't be locked down after a certain period of time passes and there are no new comments, it would help if you actually explained in some way other than you don't like censorship. I mean really this is a 10 year old on the airplane seat in back of you, just kicking the seat to be a pest, wouldn't you at least speak to his mother, or are you going to ignore the kid from LA to Tokyo ?
^ If you're willing to completely block the original poster of any thread. Therefore, a troll can get anyone mass-ignored by bumping a bunch of their threads. Talk about letting them win.
Other than SJG, the bumping of multiple threads rarely happens; so IMO no need to do away w/ the functionality of older threads
w.r.t. SJG; people constantly bitch about him but for w/e reason refuse to put him on Ignore - it seems for some the pleasure of bitching about SJG supersedes their dislike for him
^ SJG might have more than a few bats in the belfry, and Icey usually wants to start fights, but every now and then I have a good conversation with either.
A troll could easily bump everything you or I post and get us mass ignored.
If the "Ignore" feature had teeth, then it would be more useful. The current "Ignore" tool still allows those you've ignored to post to threads you create, which isn't useful and makes your own threads look like they are populated by ghosts.
SJGHATESWOMEN pulled this dumb shit in mid October last year as well (without repercussion). Based on the time stamps, it looks like it took place over the course of 2 to 3 hours, not all day. Was TUSCL hacked? I don't know, maybe, but I doubt it especially since this is a repeat performance.
But I do know that there are server-side tools out there that will automatically stop or lock out someone attempting to do something like, I don't know, post "ES JAY GEE" to hundreds of old threads over the course of several hours. So, I hope something like that is in place in an upcoming TUSCL.
It will be interesting to see what sort of tools are in place when founder launches the new site.
I don’t bitch about SJG, but there’s really no reason to allow necrothreads to be bumped, they’re archived and accessible why the fuck can’t anyone start any thread that interests them, you can reference the old thread without cluttering up the board by hyperlinks without having the thread reopen on the start pages.
Seems to me catering to one or three posters is stupidity
^ I'm not seeing a majority at all. But I do see several posts from the few that are most adamant about locking threads and most of them have admitted they do not desire to use the ignore feature of the site.
Founder has provided a tool for use and if you are choosing to not use it, that should be on the individual.
Out of 40 posts looks like approximately 16 or 17 individuals I count 9 pro lock 4 not and a handful are vague try taking the time to count before making a blanket statement
Im not in favor of locking old threads but agree a troll should not have such an easy way to shit on the board. The solution should not be to ignore the original thread starter. While most don’t agree with icey, he contributes a lot of new threads to the board. Nothing stops other users from blocking him, but I agree with tetra we shouldn’t be forced to block a troll target. Next time it could be Founder he threadshits on.
I agree with Tetradon when he says that ignoring people shouldn't have to be the only effective solution. Like he said, that was the troll's goal and if we leave that as the only suggestion, he effectively wins. I'll admit I caved in and ignored both Icey profiles and it was cleaned up. But Icee does post some interesting stuff sometimes and I'd like to be able to see when he does. Same with SJG, I was almost forced to ignore him last time the troll pulled this stunt. But Founder fixed that problem by deleting the profile. Like Nicespice asked, I wonder why he didn't just do that again?
@Papi_Chulo: "If Founder is able to do it; perhaps TUSCL having the built-in ability to not bump threads if one has the person on Ignore - i.e. if one has TUSCLer 'X' on Ignore and TUSCLer 'X' makes a comment, then one's personal discussion view doesn't update??"This behavior was, in fact, in effect, a while ago for a brief period of time. A couple of years ago maybe?
When I ignored a user, his or her posts to a thread did <em>not</em> bubble to the top of <em>my</em> list of discussions. It's a matter of sorting by the last post by an unignored user, rather than sorting by the absolute last user.
As for why old threads are open (they used to be closed after some time as well), I suspect it was because SJG just kepts spamming founder with whingy bullshit posts, and founder just did it to shut him up.
I've never seen a more worthless poster to a discussion board before in my life. No reviews, not on-topic posts, prolific off-topic posts on on-topic threads, and few, if any, on-topic replies to other on-topic posts. It used to be somewhat amusing to see him respond to a topic about breast size with a review of a book on Meso-American Mound People, but it gets pretty boring after a while.
Though the "SJGHATESWOMEN" troll's latest shenanigans are dumb, it's worth noting that the troll did come about as a result of SJG threatening a dancer (Wiffle Waffle) in 2019.
Ishmael, I said to Waffle exactly what I have said to you many times. And I say it again to you now.
In no F2F venue would you get to go on and on about me like this. Not in a public place, not on the sidewalk, not anywhere, not even in your place of work. You only post here because it is online and because you have no respect for this forum. You are a keyboard coward.
And with you Ishmael, I would demonstrate a harshness which I would not with Waffle.
If you mean a harshness of tone, I believe that. Otherwise ... no.
I was *far* from the only one who saw the things you said to Waffle as a threat (as seen in that and the related threads), and she saw it that way as well.
^ You can wipe the egg of your face on bringing up politics here. Go worry about your own healthcare, you can come back and be the same fake pimp we all know and loathe later.
Why any of you still think the founder cares at all about your opinions re: this board amazes me. You realize he named this entire section after this site's biggest off-topic troll, and then gave same troll VIP even though he's never posted a review or, to best of anyone's knowledge, ever stepped foot inside a strip club?
I guess I shouldn't be that surprised, though. So many of you complaining about SJG/Icee are part of the Venn diagram overlap who applaud Juice, even though he is a self-admitted plagiarizer of posts and has also posted well over 100 fake reviews (which also didn't get him banned by the founder, but did earn him rotating taglines at the top of TUSCL).
I remember the Wiffle Waffle kerfuffle. I'm sure solo_jerkoff_guy is denying that what he wrote in a clearly threatening tone doesn't actually constitute a threat, but I know I would have taken it that way if it had been directed at me. And I recall WW taking it that way too.
I seem to remember him taking that same tone with prevert, which made me laugh out loud. Mostly because prevert would wipe the floor with him without breaking a sweat. I've hung out with prevert a number of times, and unless solo_jerkoff_guy's background and training are even <em>remotely</em> similar to prevert's, it's no contest.
Ishmael and GMD, all I told Waffle was that no where f2f would she get to go on and on talking about me, not even in her strip club.
She went ballistic and so I repeated it several times.
And now I am saying the same to you two nitwits. No where f2f would you get to go on and on talking about me, not in a retail place, not on the sidewalk, and not in your work places.
And even online, the both of you would do well to find something else to talk about.
Well? Do you have an impregnable privacy wall that would make F2F never happen, and your threats are silly? Or do you not have a privacy wall, and you'd see us F2F to make us regret it?
They're contradictory. You can't have both. Which one is it?
SJG said "And even online, the both of you would do well to find something else to talk about."
I choose to continue addressing the reality that you have threatened many people on this forum, including women. That's abhorrent and no one here should act as if you're harmless or just "eccentric."
So, you just stated that there would be consequences "even online" if I didn't talk about something else. So, go for it.
SJG, I wouldn't talk about you offline because internet shit talkers are a dime a dozen. If I saw you, I'd probably say "no, sorry, I don't have any spare change."
Icey, you know where I club and when. You want to confront me, nothing is stopping you. Otherwise, you can stop running your mouth about things you'll never do.
Ishmael and Tetradon, locked in basement rooms posting on a message board because you have nothing else you can do.
F2f you would be stopped from going on and on talking about me.
On this board, you both would do well to find something else to talk about. You two are as bad as the sock puppet troll who just bumped hundreds of threads.
Topical continuity doesn't happen. Topics die after a certain time, events pass, members come and go, context is lost. You can bring them back to life but like a zombie it isn't the same.
Day Tripper (often cited at the start of Jazz-Rock) Seems to be 4 triplets per measure, though there are othe ways you could notate it.
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Shailynn's mom, having pulled Shailynn out of high school, she figures now she can sell the house and they can live on the road, until the end of next school year when Shailynn starts at Bob Jones University.
^ I start a thread when I have something to say, rather than bumping an old one. Anything political, for example, a few months is an eternity for something to change. The old material isn't "context," any more than milk left in the summer sun is "finely aged."
I also don't come here for friends, per se. I come to discuss a few topics that polite company doesn't permit, or I'll jump on something random and add a comment or two.
"People could look up more information and post it. That is how the WWW works. It is boundless and it grows faster than you can mine it."
Yup, that's the problem. Most of it is garbage, and dated quickly.
^ The only thing we agree on (except Icey, why is he even here?) is that paying for sexual contact is awesome.
By polite company I mean mainstream society. I have a few friends I can talk strip clubs with, but except for one they don't have the range of SC experiences the guys here do.
It also makes new people feel as though they're interrupting. Especially here, where most threads degenerate into furthering longstanding personal feuds. We, of all people, need fresh starts.
Well hopefully people can self moderate and end the personal feuds.
If we have long running threads people can spend some time and see what they are about, and likely some will be about things about which they are already knowledgeable. We need people bringing in such knowledge.
Won't happen. People don't like to read 100 post threads. And it's a titty bar message board, not the Southern Baptist Convention. Feuds seem to go forever.
Tetradon, there are lots and lots of old threads which I plan to add to. It just takes time to come up with new material to make substantive posts. But having the old threads open remains important.
Important to who ? certainly not to the vast majority of board users !!
This is just a selfish assertion and the majority want this practice to go away.
^ This is a titty bar message board, not the Harvard faculty lounge. Topical breadth and depth here involves the best places to get extras in a given city.
You are assuming that strip club patrons are only interested in Right Wing News, Right Wing Politics, Financial Speculation, and Pro Sports. You are underestimating strip club patrons and dancers, and especially in the internet era where anyone can learn about anything they want.
^You keep forgetting several things, I don't assume anything, that's all you and you keep making an ass of yourself!
This is not your private blog, I am not really interested in Right wing or Left wing anything, and first and foremost, you need to exist here in some form of co-ordination with all of the other forum users, start your own fucking threads, or stay on fucking topic, is that too hard for you, if so too fucking bad. I'm just a short fuse away from putting you on ignore permanently, that will be your loss.
"You are underestimating strip club patrons and dancers"
I am observing the discussion content of the last couple years. Your sex and chaos magick conversations are 90 percent you talking to yourself and 10 percent other TUSCLers making fun of you.
If you want to talk left wing politics, there's always Icey, but i don't blame you for not counting him.
I wish there was more conversation about finance, as I like investing and us right wingers, believing in self reliance, often have money to invest.
So called Investment is a scam, getting people to put money into things they have neither control over nor knowledge of. They are just betting against the managers of the pension, insurance, and hedge funds. Their trades are so large that they determine the prices. And they operate with the support of racks of array processor computers doing princple component analysis that tell them what they should be trading out of and what they should be getting into. And this changes trade by trade, as the prices of everything are always changing.
If it seems biased in the positive, this is simply because the leaders of both major political parties know that they have to keep the ponzi scheme going.
So it is just a way of riding on the backs of working people.
If someone really wants to practice self reliance, they and close associates will be starting their own businesses, but putting money into nonsense, and not supporting a system which eventually will price them out of their own lifestyle.
And what do you think business owners do with their money? Stuff it in a mattress? Put it in a savings account getting a few basis points? No, they invest it in risk-bearing instruments.
As one who's been on the other side of the institutional investment machine, yes, most people don't know what they're up against. But they could mimic the market in a passively-managed index fund and beat most hedge funds anyways.
If you really want to practice self-reliance, buy a plot of land and grow vegetables, and hunt for the rest (if deforestation and green regulations allow). Otherwise, you're in the system.
What they do with the money is expand their businesses and start new businesses.
So called "Investing" or "Wealth Creation" is a scam because you are buying into things you know nothing about and have zero control over. It is just a head trip.
It looks like it works simply because both political parties know that to win elections they have to go along with the ponzi scheme and let people rid in the backs of workers.
If you Tetradon did not have these store clerks, gas station attendants, officer workers, school teachers, police, and fire fighters that you could ride on the backs of then you would have no choice but to take one of those jobs yourself.
^ And what do you think expanding their business and starting new businesses is? That's called "investment."
I'm sure you speak from your extensive experience in investing and creating wealth? Because I do. I've been the "competitive edge" that hedge funds get. But it felt meaningless. Now, I contribute to human pharmaceuticals and diagnostics, giving doctors the tools to save lives. And make enough money to enjoy the company of beautiful women for it.
Your Marxist theory of people "riding on the backs of workers" is cute, but resulted in more death and misery than any ideology in the history of man. Capitalism has brought more people out of extreme poverty than communism or socialism--however they're dressed up--ever could.
SJG said "What they do with the money is expand their businesses and start new businesses."
I have my own business, and I have used the earnings from my investments to build that business.
"So called 'Investing' or 'Wealth Creation' is a scam..."
On average, my investment in "scams" has provided a strong return on investment that supplements what I earn from my business, and no one would consider me to be a Wall Street fat cat.
"...because you are buying into things you know nothing about..."
Not true. Like any good investor, I do research. And that research has paid off.
"...and have zero control over..."
Also not true. I have absolute control over where my money goes. If my research indicated that an investment is going in the wrong direction, I can move that money elsewhere.
"It is just a head trip."
A 'head trip' is thinking that endlessly talking to yourself in a thread about Gnosticism and transistor radios does sweet fuck all for a website about strip clubs. You're mania isn't about improving anything. It's about trying to appear intellectual for an audience that you're too shallow and autistic to realize doesn't care about your navel-gazing worldview from a public library internet kiosk.
Also ... I'm still waiting for you to dole out my consequences. Because I'm not done talking about how you're creepy as fuck.
Tetradon, usually what people call investment is just passive gambling, not putting money into their own ventures.
Ishmale, You as a share holder do not have any significant degree of control. Proxy vote only and with that you won't be able to change anything, unless you have put so much money in that you have bought the business. Its really just a glorified version of casino gambling, or like gambing on horse races.
And keeping threads open is how we get topical breath and depth.
Typical response by losers and slackers, to things that they don't understand, is if it doesn't benefit them it's a scam, guess what, sitting home getting handouts is a bigger scam, those lazy fucks getting money and food stamps to stay home and do nothing of value, they are the true scammers and grifters.
Old threads become rancid and clog up the board, much of that old information is outdated and useless shut them down.
People who get food stamps generally are not consuming many resources, living pretty low on the hog. They aren't riding on the backs of the working poor.
And they aren't spewing out bull shit either.
We live in a society of extreme surplus of every good and service.
I have complete control over where my money is invested and how much I invest.
Starting your own business is as much a gamble as anything else, and if you believe otherwise then you're a moron. I started a business at the beginning of a pandemic, and while I had some beliefs and indicators that it would work out, there were also a lot of unknowns that could have wrecked the whole thing. Thinking that having your own business puts you in control over everything is a fantasy held by those who don't have their own business.
And by that I mean you, the jackass who has been going on about an "organization" that only exists in your creepy brain.
Also, Also, I think old threads should be locked after 90 days and you still haven't followed through on those consequences you promised.
But after you make your buy in you have only the smallest sliver of control over how the company operates.
The only start up businesses which have a super high failure rate are those backed by venture capital. The mom and pop businesses have a very high success rate, and once they are delivering product almost nothing can shut them down.
>People who get food stamps generally are not consuming many resources, living pretty low on the hog. They aren't riding on the backs of the working poor <
People who get food stamps are getting a resource that has been earned by someone else, they are riding the backs of other people that are actually working and paying taxes.
>And they aren't spewing out bull shit either.<
So tell me how they are entitled to my hard earned money, that's pure unadulterated bullshit
>We live in a society of extreme surplus of every good and service.<
Thanks to those scams and capital markets you are constantly running down, and no thanks to the likes of those collecting government benefits and spewing out bullshit
No, nothing per say has been "earned" by anyone else.
People who go along with the Wealth Creation Scam and the idea that that puts them above other people is complete bull shit at every level.
Advancing technology is what has given us these surpluses. The technology was created for war, for killing people, but it is here now taking jobs away from people. We should not be expecting people to maintain market employment. This costs our society far too much.
>No, nothing per say has been "earned" by anyone else.<
So we are all slaves or serfs and are obligated to work for you Kings and Lords for free
>People who go along with the Wealth Creation Scam and the idea that that puts them above other people is complete bull shit at every level.<
Like the stay home and get handouts of taxpayer dollar scam, is all about being above other people what are you all, Kings and Lords and we owe you lazy fucks support and a living ?
>Advancing technology is what has given us these surpluses. The technology was created for war, for killing people, but it is here now taking jobs away from people. We should not be expecting people to maintain market employment. This costs our society far too much.<
So how did this technology come about through the efforts of working people like me, or lazy entitled Kings and Lords like you ?
^ You are existing off of my taxes and charity but you call me scum, you need to back off, if I so decide to behave like you you won't have a library to post from, you are a leech you know that don't you.
Threads should be locked down after 90 days !!!!
No one exists off of you 25. You are claiming that you can take money or property out of our economy, living off of our laws, and that you are not obllidged to pay taxes. And then you insult working people. THis is why I call you scum.
And we have open threads so that we can post about topical stuff, not just argue with an idiot like you.
^ First you make insinuations and get them are refuted soundly and logically, then you start calling me names. Son on the smartest day of your pathetic and sad life, you weren't even close to being able to match intellectually with me, and son believe me , today ain't the smartest day of your unhappy life.
^ Intellectually there's a deficit son, too bad for you, but you've never been the brightest bulb in the chandelier, nor the sharpest knife in the drawer. Better luck in your next life.
^^^^ You are the one who is bitching 25, and you are the one who is blaming other people for your own limitations, and you are the one who is trying to censor a perfectly good forum.
Tetradon, I guess I think of it like this. Back in the 90's the magazines Mondo 2000 and Wired debuted.
These were the first which assumed basic computer literacy in how they wrote.
Things like Time and Newsweek, and broadcast Television, never assumed this. They assumed that people knew nothing. And they were dumbed down in a lot of other ways too. Seemed like they were writing to my grandparents.
But Mondo 2000 and Wired changed this. They assumed that you had extensive experience with using computers.
I see this board in a similar manner. In this age of widespread literacy, the internet, and the wikipedia, I assume that our members know all sorts of things and will want to converse about them.
Just because a guy likes strip clubs that does not mean that all his life is about is alcohol and cumming in his pants.
I am convinced that people would post on more eclectic threads and that they would start such threads themselves, if they were not being subjected to bullying and trolling.
And I have seen members who tried to post more interesting stuff eventually walk away in frustration, because of all the knucklehead trolling.
@SJG, "I am convinced that people would post on more eclectic threads and that they would start such threads themselves,"
I don't know where you get this confidence from. 90% of the discussion board is something related to tits and alcohol, most of the rest is politics, or enfant provocateurs like Icey trying to get a rise out of people.
Most of your "eclectic" topics are you talking to yourself, or people making fun of you for talking to yourself.
So why do you try to do it here?
Anyone weak enough to be cowed by the cast of characters here, must live a boring life.
We have had other members, but they left in disappointment.
Of course we can talk about tits, and we can talk about alcohol. But we can also talk about lots of other stuff, and this is just as relevant to the lives our members live.
But this is primarily male forum and including many highly educated people, and people who are employed in ways which use technical and scientific skills.
So if the trolling stops, there will be a broader range of posting. And keeping the cache of threads open is key to this.
Our local clubs are no touching. They are where you learn how to talk to young women. On the whole they are smarter and more conversant than the general population. Usually I get along very well with a large number of them.
Tetradon and twentyfive, why don't you bozos come up with something more substantive to post about. You should like you each have a severe case of diaper rash.
^ He thinks the board is his little private fiefdom. He sets the rules, he enforces good conduct, he determines the scope of discussions. Except he doesn't.
No, I don't want to censor it, you don't see me arguing for certain topics to get shut down. I can more than hold my own against any shithead troll here.
Only for the board to be kept readable. Per the original post on this thread, locking them keeps it readable.
Open threads is how we make a place for more diverse topics.
The women who dance in strip clubs are old enough that they are presumed capable of deciding who they want to fuck.
You Tetradon are old enough that you should be able to decide for yourself which message board posts you want to read, and not to need someone to restrict the board for you.
You completely ignored what I said. The board is not your playground, though you seem to tie an inordinate amount of personal identity to it. Get psychological help.
You won't find people saying things you don't want to read in the Underground Circle Jerk Room.
Good air ventilation, but no windows.
Only way in or out is that hatch out in parking lot. Just tell them the code phrase, "Women are Superfluous" and they will let you in. That hatch is the center of the ceiling. So you climb down the ladder to the floor. Then select a seat, and you will know what to do.
^ I'd caution you against listening to Cacaplop on any issue. His hobby is trolling strip club message boards. It's a matter of time before Founder deletes him. Again.
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In the meantime, it keeps the board readable.
This place works for discussion because of light moderation and low tolerance for trolls.
https://www.stripclublist.com/world/Nort…
That is what the troll is trying to achieve. Force everyone to ignore SJG and now Icey. Founder should ban the asshole.
I think the same thing every time I see a comment by Icee then I remember, he’s really 12.
I also think that the "Ignore" tool should have greater effectiveness.
If Founder is able to do it; perhaps TUSCL having the built-in ability to not bump threads if one has the person on Ignore - i.e. if one has TUSCLer 'X' on Ignore and TUSCLer 'X' makes a comment, then one's personal discussion view doesn't update???
Yeah I could use ignore but I don't because I shouldn't have to.
I'll still stop by every once in awhile but TUSCL doesn't need me and I certainly don't need TUSCL!
FUCK IT!
Someone with absolutely no life spent their entire fucking day bumping old threads.
Question for someone who knows computers. Could someone have hacked into TUSCL and automated the process? Why on earth would anyone bump this many threads manually?
I have a question, I understand your logic regarding the two way block, I disagree but understand it, explain why threads can't be locked down after a certain period of time passes and there are no new comments, it would help if you actually explained in some way other than you don't like censorship. I mean really this is a 10 year old on the airplane seat in back of you, just kicking the seat to be a pest, wouldn't you at least speak to his mother, or are you going to ignore the kid from LA to Tokyo ?
It actually received more comments and meaningful discussion after it was bumped than it did when originally posted.
Old threads can still add value to the site.
The solution is there (ignore/block) - but it seems some are "anti-ignore".
@gammanu posted the only real solution, and that has other drawbacks.
w.r.t. SJG; people constantly bitch about him but for w/e reason refuse to put him on Ignore - it seems for some the pleasure of bitching about SJG supersedes their dislike for him
A troll could easily bump everything you or I post and get us mass ignored.
SJGHATESWOMEN pulled this dumb shit in mid October last year as well (without repercussion). Based on the time stamps, it looks like it took place over the course of 2 to 3 hours, not all day. Was TUSCL hacked? I don't know, maybe, but I doubt it especially since this is a repeat performance.
But I do know that there are server-side tools out there that will automatically stop or lock out someone attempting to do something like, I don't know, post "ES JAY GEE" to hundreds of old threads over the course of several hours. So, I hope something like that is in place in an upcoming TUSCL.
It will be interesting to see what sort of tools are in place when founder launches the new site.
Seems to me catering to one or three posters is stupidity
Founder has provided a tool for use and if you are choosing to not use it, that should be on the individual.
I agree with Tetradon when he says that ignoring people shouldn't have to be the only effective solution. Like he said, that was the troll's goal and if we leave that as the only suggestion, he effectively wins. I'll admit I caved in and ignored both Icey profiles and it was cleaned up. But Icee does post some interesting stuff sometimes and I'd like to be able to see when he does. Same with SJG, I was almost forced to ignore him last time the troll pulled this stunt. But Founder fixed that problem by deleting the profile. Like Nicespice asked, I wonder why he didn't just do that again?
As far as keeping old threads open, they are in no way whatsoever any kind of a problem.
Any mischief anyone could make with old thread, they could also make even worse by making new threads.
Having old threads open is how we get topical breadth and topical continuity.
SJG
When I ignored a user, his or her posts to a thread did <em>not</em> bubble to the top of <em>my</em> list of discussions. It's a matter of sorting by the last post by an unignored user, rather than sorting by the absolute last user.
I was sad when that stopped working.
SJG
I've never seen a more worthless poster to a discussion board before in my life. No reviews, not on-topic posts, prolific off-topic posts on on-topic threads, and few, if any, on-topic replies to other on-topic posts. It used to be somewhat amusing to see him respond to a topic about breast size with a review of a book on Meso-American Mound People, but it gets pretty boring after a while.
SJG
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https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6943…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6944…
One has to wonder why you've never bumped *that* thread, SJG.
That is all.
SJG
In no F2F venue would you get to go on and on about me like this. Not in a public place, not on the sidewalk, not anywhere, not even in your place of work. You only post here because it is online and because you have no respect for this forum. You are a keyboard coward.
And with you Ishmael, I would demonstrate a harshness which I would not with Waffle.
SJG
I was *far* from the only one who saw the things you said to Waffle as a threat (as seen in that and the related threads), and she saw it that way as well.
If I were in a room F2F with you, I would wonder why I've fallen so far. I hate Vegas and especially Vegas strip clubs.
I guess I shouldn't be that surprised, though. So many of you complaining about SJG/Icee are part of the Venn diagram overlap who applaud Juice, even though he is a self-admitted plagiarizer of posts and has also posted well over 100 fake reviews (which also didn't get him banned by the founder, but did earn him rotating taglines at the top of TUSCL).
I miss waffle. And SJG has, surprisingly, become a lot more bearable than he was a couple years ago.
Also, I've never been a Juice "fan". We PMed one time where he tried to explain to me why trolling was fun, and we just didn't see eye to eye.
SJG
Along with many other people.
You need to lighten up. Then, I'd buy you an HJ (Huffy job), a BJ (bicycle job), and if you're nice enough, an FS (full Schwinn).
She went ballistic and so I repeated it several times.
And now I am saying the same to you two nitwits. No where f2f would you get to go on and on talking about me, not in a retail place, not on the sidewalk, and not in your work places.
And even online, the both of you would do well to find something else to talk about.
SJG
They're contradictory. You can't have both. Which one is it?
I don't go looking for trouble. But if needed, I will do always what is necessary.
What baffles me though is why you want to keep engaging in a pointless belligerence which no one would let you get away with f2f?
You are a keyboard koward and you are showing complete disrespect for this board and its members.
SJG
MonaLisa Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCprklY9…
For all your threats, if you saw me F2F, you'd be docile as a kitten.
You would not be getting to go on and and on talking about me in any f2f venue.
SJG
I choose to continue addressing the reality that you have threatened many people on this forum, including women. That's abhorrent and no one here should act as if you're harmless or just "eccentric."
So, you just stated that there would be consequences "even online" if I didn't talk about something else. So, go for it.
Enforce your consequences.
Icey, you know where I club and when. You want to confront me, nothing is stopping you. Otherwise, you can stop running your mouth about things you'll never do.
F2f you would be stopped from going on and on talking about me.
On this board, you both would do well to find something else to talk about. You two are as bad as the sock puppet troll who just bumped hundreds of threads.
SJG
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs79I7d1…
Otherwise go back to talking chaos magick and stop writing wolf tickets.
You are a keyboard koward. You post on this board because you have no respect for it or its members.
You would do well to find other stuff to post about.
SJG
MonaLisa Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCprklY9…
That recent disruptor troll can be dealt with in other ways, like flood control, or by just scrolling past his stuff.
SJG
People could look up more information and post it. That is how the WWW works. It is boundless and it grows faster than you can mine it.
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MonaLisa Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKRle7mg…
Day Tripper (often cited at the start of Jazz-Rock) Seems to be 4 triplets per measure, though there are othe ways you could notate it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2umIzu…
I also don't come here for friends, per se. I come to discuss a few topics that polite company doesn't permit, or I'll jump on something random and add a comment or two.
"People could look up more information and post it. That is how the WWW works. It is boundless and it grows faster than you can mine it."
Yup, that's the problem. Most of it is garbage, and dated quickly.
And the rules about what polite company does and doesn't allow is always an ongoing issue.
SJG
By polite company I mean mainstream society. I have a few friends I can talk strip clubs with, but except for one they don't have the range of SC experiences the guys here do.
SJG
When people can continue on the same thread, things go deeper.
And this is standard on most message boards.
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7828…
SJG
Day Tripper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2umIzu…
If we have long running threads people can spend some time and see what they are about, and likely some will be about things about which they are already knowledgeable. We need people bringing in such knowledge.
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MonaLisa Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCprklY9…
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MonaLisa Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCprklY9…
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We're not the most moral folk.
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This is just a selfish assertion and the majority want this practice to go away.
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Milk'n Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErHo_oCk…
This is not your private blog, I am not really interested in Right wing or Left wing anything, and first and foremost, you need to exist here in some form of co-ordination with all of the other forum users, start your own fucking threads, or stay on fucking topic, is that too hard for you, if so too fucking bad. I'm just a short fuse away from putting you on ignore permanently, that will be your loss.
I am observing the discussion content of the last couple years. Your sex and chaos magick conversations are 90 percent you talking to yourself and 10 percent other TUSCLers making fun of you.
If you want to talk left wing politics, there's always Icey, but i don't blame you for not counting him.
I wish there was more conversation about finance, as I like investing and us right wingers, believing in self reliance, often have money to invest.
If it seems biased in the positive, this is simply because the leaders of both major political parties know that they have to keep the ponzi scheme going.
So it is just a way of riding on the backs of working people.
If someone really wants to practice self reliance, they and close associates will be starting their own businesses, but putting money into nonsense, and not supporting a system which eventually will price them out of their own lifestyle.
SJG
The best of George Gershwin ( Rhapsody in Blue , I got rhythm, etc etc ) HQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5oxKdrO…
As one who's been on the other side of the institutional investment machine, yes, most people don't know what they're up against. But they could mimic the market in a passively-managed index fund and beat most hedge funds anyways.
If you really want to practice self-reliance, buy a plot of land and grow vegetables, and hunt for the rest (if deforestation and green regulations allow). Otherwise, you're in the system.
So called "Investing" or "Wealth Creation" is a scam because you are buying into things you know nothing about and have zero control over. It is just a head trip.
It looks like it works simply because both political parties know that to win elections they have to go along with the ponzi scheme and let people rid in the backs of workers.
If you Tetradon did not have these store clerks, gas station attendants, officer workers, school teachers, police, and fire fighters that you could ride on the backs of then you would have no choice but to take one of those jobs yourself.
SJG
I'm sure you speak from your extensive experience in investing and creating wealth? Because I do. I've been the "competitive edge" that hedge funds get. But it felt meaningless. Now, I contribute to human pharmaceuticals and diagnostics, giving doctors the tools to save lives. And make enough money to enjoy the company of beautiful women for it.
Your Marxist theory of people "riding on the backs of workers" is cute, but resulted in more death and misery than any ideology in the history of man. Capitalism has brought more people out of extreme poverty than communism or socialism--however they're dressed up--ever could.
I have my own business, and I have used the earnings from my investments to build that business.
"So called 'Investing' or 'Wealth Creation' is a scam..."
On average, my investment in "scams" has provided a strong return on investment that supplements what I earn from my business, and no one would consider me to be a Wall Street fat cat.
"...because you are buying into things you know nothing about..."
Not true. Like any good investor, I do research. And that research has paid off.
"...and have zero control over..."
Also not true. I have absolute control over where my money goes. If my research indicated that an investment is going in the wrong direction, I can move that money elsewhere.
"It is just a head trip."
A 'head trip' is thinking that endlessly talking to yourself in a thread about Gnosticism and transistor radios does sweet fuck all for a website about strip clubs. You're mania isn't about improving anything. It's about trying to appear intellectual for an audience that you're too shallow and autistic to realize doesn't care about your navel-gazing worldview from a public library internet kiosk.
Also ... I'm still waiting for you to dole out my consequences. Because I'm not done talking about how you're creepy as fuck.
Ishmale, You as a share holder do not have any significant degree of control. Proxy vote only and with that you won't be able to change anything, unless you have put so much money in that you have bought the business. Its really just a glorified version of casino gambling, or like gambing on horse races.
And keeping threads open is how we get topical breath and depth.
SJG
Old threads become rancid and clog up the board, much of that old information is outdated and useless shut them down.
And they aren't spewing out bull shit either.
We live in a society of extreme surplus of every good and service.
SJG
Starting your own business is as much a gamble as anything else, and if you believe otherwise then you're a moron. I started a business at the beginning of a pandemic, and while I had some beliefs and indicators that it would work out, there were also a lot of unknowns that could have wrecked the whole thing. Thinking that having your own business puts you in control over everything is a fantasy held by those who don't have their own business.
And by that I mean you, the jackass who has been going on about an "organization" that only exists in your creepy brain.
Also, Also, I think old threads should be locked after 90 days and you still haven't followed through on those consequences you promised.
The only start up businesses which have a super high failure rate are those backed by venture capital. The mom and pop businesses have a very high success rate, and once they are delivering product almost nothing can shut them down.
https://www.amazon.com/Money-No-Object-V…
And you Ishmael are demonstrating what creeyness is.
Making threads which are open to being continued means less new threads, so it is easier to find things.
SJG
People who get food stamps are getting a resource that has been earned by someone else, they are riding the backs of other people that are actually working and paying taxes.
>And they aren't spewing out bull shit either.<
So tell me how they are entitled to my hard earned money, that's pure unadulterated bullshit
>We live in a society of extreme surplus of every good and service.<
Thanks to those scams and capital markets you are constantly running down, and no thanks to the likes of those collecting government benefits and spewing out bullshit
People who go along with the Wealth Creation Scam and the idea that that puts them above other people is complete bull shit at every level.
Advancing technology is what has given us these surpluses. The technology was created for war, for killing people, but it is here now taking jobs away from people. We should not be expecting people to maintain market employment. This costs our society far too much.
SJG
So we are all slaves or serfs and are obligated to work for you Kings and Lords for free
>People who go along with the Wealth Creation Scam and the idea that that puts them above other people is complete bull shit at every level.<
Like the stay home and get handouts of taxpayer dollar scam, is all about being above other people what are you all, Kings and Lords and we owe you lazy fucks support and a living ?
>Advancing technology is what has given us these surpluses. The technology was created for war, for killing people, but it is here now taking jobs away from people. We should not be expecting people to maintain market employment. This costs our society far too much.<
So how did this technology come about through the efforts of working people like me, or lazy entitled Kings and Lords like you ?
Shut down old threads after 90 days
And the people who do the work should not have to listen to scum like you 25.
SJG
Threads should be locked down after 90 days !!!!
And we have open threads so that we can post about topical stuff, not just argue with an idiot like you.
SJG
Other people just accept their role in the world. They do their jobs, they pay their taxes, and they keep on learing.
They don't blame people who have less money that they do for their own limitations or for our societies problems.
And they don't try to censor message boards
And this is why I call you a scum.
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I realize that not everyone ties their self-worth to this forum as much as you do, but you're still just one guy of many here.
Aren't you supposed to be working yourself into a coronary.
These were the first which assumed basic computer literacy in how they wrote.
Things like Time and Newsweek, and broadcast Television, never assumed this. They assumed that people knew nothing. And they were dumbed down in a lot of other ways too. Seemed like they were writing to my grandparents.
But Mondo 2000 and Wired changed this. They assumed that you had extensive experience with using computers.
I see this board in a similar manner. In this age of widespread literacy, the internet, and the wikipedia, I assume that our members know all sorts of things and will want to converse about them.
Just because a guy likes strip clubs that does not mean that all his life is about is alcohol and cumming in his pants.
I am convinced that people would post on more eclectic threads and that they would start such threads themselves, if they were not being subjected to bullying and trolling.
And I have seen members who tried to post more interesting stuff eventually walk away in frustration, because of all the knucklehead trolling.
SJG
London Andrews
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1110460368/…
I don't know where you get this confidence from. 90% of the discussion board is something related to tits and alcohol, most of the rest is politics, or enfant provocateurs like Icey trying to get a rise out of people.
Most of your "eclectic" topics are you talking to yourself, or people making fun of you for talking to yourself.
So why do you try to do it here?
Anyone weak enough to be cowed by the cast of characters here, must live a boring life.
Of course we can talk about tits, and we can talk about alcohol. But we can also talk about lots of other stuff, and this is just as relevant to the lives our members live.
SJG
There are plenty of places to talk politics, finance, sports, books, cars, but few to talk tits.
That's why there's "The Ultimate Strip Club List."
God bless tits!
So if the trolling stops, there will be a broader range of posting. And keeping the cache of threads open is key to this.
SJG
We'll all convert to Mormonism before that happens.
SJG
Weather Report - Live at Montreux (1976) [Remastered]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvfXA2S…
SJG
If I start something, it'll be something reasonably successful titty bar enthusiasts can opine on. I have many other venues to talk most other topics.
SJG
SJG
Weather Report - Live at Montreux (1976) [Remastered]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvfXA2S…
Like I said, most of your "eclectic" threads are you talking to yourself, or people making fun of you for talking to yourself.
Today everyone needs a life long continuing education.
SJG
Weather Report - Live at Montreux (1976) [Remastered]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvfXA2S…
You aren't the one to give the education, in fact you're widely ignored.
SJG
Weather Report - Live at Montreux (1976) [Remastered]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvfXA2S…
Unique for its cast of crazy characters, not for intellect.
SJG
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Message boards attract smart people.
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And your creepy behavior has played no small part in driving dancers away.
"Message boards attract smart people."
I'm not sure if that's the most false thing ever stated anywhere, but it's in the top 3.
"Women like smart men, many of them do."
Sure. Most women go into stripping to find the Mensa member of their dreams. It's not because they make a shitload of money by making dicks hard.
Threads should be closed down after 90 days.
sJG
Threads should be closed down after 90 days.
SJG
Or maybe you just want to pull the bed covers up over yourself.
SJG
Don't read threads or posts you don't like.
Learn to use ignore.
SJG
Stanley Clarke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeXWxroV…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW7a1rTI…
Buddy Guy, Knock on Wood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUbZo6i…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpa6nvfx…
Norah Jones, Something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC42CJoB…
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl-BNTeJ…
THE ROLLING STONES - Hand Of Fate (1976) w/ Billy Preston in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdkDQ_VS…
Jumpin' Jack Flash, Paris 1976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36DtA8pI…
Honky Tonk Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msVM8Bqg…
Only Rock 'n' Roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blf_JvS-…
Tumblin' Dice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ8vBqXW…
The Rolling Stones - Tumbling Dice - Oakland 1994 w/ early Lisa Fischer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5MfBAwm…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Eb0JDR…
69 hours peace.
I'm thinking that 90 days was a bit long
SJG
Why haven't you ignored me or 25?
Why do you keep bumping this thread?
Your new name is fuckface it fits
Because SJG doesn't actually want diversity at all.
SJG
SJG
Or go ahead and keep bumping it, and show Founder how much interest there is in keeping necro-threads dead.
SJG
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Only for the board to be kept readable. Per the original post on this thread, locking them keeps it readable.
The women who dance in strip clubs are old enough that they are presumed capable of deciding who they want to fuck.
You Tetradon are old enough that you should be able to decide for yourself which message board posts you want to read, and not to need someone to restrict the board for you.
SJG
Weather Report Heavy Weather (Complete Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlee09qm…
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Chaka Khan Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Cc6uFP…
You do not own this board. Your opinion is one of many. As is mine. But I don't pretend otherwise.
So...
Go away, Cacaplop.
SJG
You're actually being civil on another thread, so I'm civil back.
You're acting the fool on this thread, so I'm pointing that out.
SJG
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You're on the same side as Icey and Cacaplop. That alone should make you rethink.
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Good air ventilation, but no windows.
Only way in or out is that hatch out in parking lot. Just tell them the code phrase, "Women are Superfluous" and they will let you in. That hatch is the center of the ceiling. So you climb down the ladder to the floor. Then select a seat, and you will know what to do.
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You are one voice here with no power. So am I, but I don't pretend otherwise.
BTW thanks for bumping this thread over and over. You just can't leave sleeping dogs lie, and you keep pushing this thread to the top. Thx.
SJG
You can post on whatever you want. Still, no one will care.
SJG
Gnostic Christianity and the meaning of the Jesus Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl3p8zEp…
I don't know why you keep responding, when I can get the last word just by posting at this time every day.