Stripper Moms who make the ultimate sacrifice
rickdugan
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For the third time in three years, I had a girl explain to me that she signed custody of her baby over to a relative because she knew that the child would be better off. I've heard stuff like this before, but it seems to be getting more common now, or at least I'm hearing about it more.
The first time I ever heard this from a stripper, which was many years ago, I was disgusted. Not so disgusted that I turned down the tail she was giving me in my hotel room, lol, but definitely put off.
But my feelings on this have evolved over time. As I've raised my own children and met many more parents over the years, I've seen too many examples of bad homes producing broken people. In all too many cases, this involves mothers who cling to their children even as they refuse to care for them properly. For these reasons, I've come to respect a woman who has enough awareness to acknowledge that she is not mentally/emotionally equipped to raise a child properly and makes the ultimate sacrifice of letting that child go to someone who can.
Feel free to share similar stories or other related stuff.
The first time I ever heard this from a stripper, which was many years ago, I was disgusted. Not so disgusted that I turned down the tail she was giving me in my hotel room, lol, but definitely put off.
But my feelings on this have evolved over time. As I've raised my own children and met many more parents over the years, I've seen too many examples of bad homes producing broken people. In all too many cases, this involves mothers who cling to their children even as they refuse to care for them properly. For these reasons, I've come to respect a woman who has enough awareness to acknowledge that she is not mentally/emotionally equipped to raise a child properly and makes the ultimate sacrifice of letting that child go to someone who can.
Feel free to share similar stories or other related stuff.
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Regardless of the setting, a mother's decision that she's not capable of raising her own child is heartbreaking. But the reality is that it's often the right decision.
It's tempting to some to accuse the woman of laziness, shirking responsibility, etc. That might even be true in some cases, but that truth only bolsters the likelihood that the kid has a better chance in another home.
What I've seen more often is that a parent or both parents bring the daughter and and grandkid into their household, to give the grandkid a more well-supported situation.
Another fucked up thing you see is the baby daddies getting out of child support. They threaten the baby mommas that, if they petition for child support, that they'll seek custody on the grounds that the baby momma is a whore stripper.
I suppose for some of them it is a cop out, but even shitty mothers often find it hard to part with children that they carried for 9 months and then gave birth to. Either way though they are doing the right thing and I generally prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt.
But, as C.M.I. has already pointed out, if it's a cop out, that actually <em>supports</em> the notion that it's best for the child to be elsewhere.
@ilbbaicnl: "One of my favs told me the only good part of her childhood was the year and a half she was in foster care."
I'm glad foster care worked for her, truly. But my wife is a product of the foster care system, from birth, and let's just say that her experiences there figure prominently in her lack of sexual desire. I'd like to think that your fav's experience was the norm, and my wife's the exception. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced of that.
My long time ATF had a party girl daughter who became drug addicted and had an out of wedlock child. She supported them both, with the daughter caring for the child during the day and my ATF caring for him at night while her daughter went to school after completing detox. All went well for a while until the daughter fell back into her old habits and, unforgivably, brought drugs into the home. My ATF kicked her daughter out of the home at that point. The good news is that the daughter was sufficiently aware of her problem that she left her son with my ATF.
Between that and COVID, my ATF hung up her heels. BTW, her older son is a hard worker and clean of drugs.
@ATAC: Rocking the GILFs are we? Overall that was an interesting story though. I once had a favorite who had taken in a niece because her sister was on a long prison stint and another with stepkids. Not only are those stories heartwarming, but those added burdens also proved beneficial on the OTC front. 😁
@rick, you're associating with Cacaplop now. Time to rethink your life choices.
First, she is supposed to be the emotional support for the kid, not the other way around. It just doesn't work for very long and, even during brief periods when it is enough to keep a parent stable, it fucks up the kid. Second, there was a reason she took off and that reason is likely still there.
^ The problems with believing that moving back to see her kid "will fix her" are twofold IMHO.
Got in trouble with the IRS too and almost lost her house.
She was a much loved OTC provider and a real blast just to spend time talking too. Really smart and interesting.
SJG
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
A Favorite of mine I was seeing OTC commented/hinted she wanted to have a baby, despite the fact she was single, because her “so called biological clock was ticking”.
She got mad when I pointed out to her that, kids that grow in a two parents family environment have a better chance of growing to be good, healthy and happy human beings.
She said that she had the “right” to have a baby and the baby will make her a better person, happy, complete etc etc
I didn’t engage in the discussion and let her rant about her feelings and ideas.
She later apologized about getting upset, because she really wanted to have a baby of her own, be a good mother and said I would be a really good father figure if I wanted to be in her baby’s life.
The “ultimate sacrifice” would be not having children when not prepared, “qualified” and ready to raise children responsibly.
That was many years ago. She struggled with significant drug addiction back then. I haven’t seen her in a long time, but based on a recent brief local news article, I strongly suspect she is still struggling.
I’m sure the mother and child do love each other and she does what she is able to do for the child. But I am also certain the child is much better off in the custody of the stable grandparents.
Rick not to troll but im really curious how did you ever get custody seriously, I don’t believe for one minute if your stories are true that those kids don’t have a clue what you are doing for entertainment.
Believe what you want, not that it's remotely relevant to this discussion. I am discreet.
It's actually kinda cute.
Pretty stupid if he's struggling to understand how one can separate fun time from everyday work and family life. Sadly though he's not the only troll who struggles with understanding human interactions. 🙈🙊🙉
I have not invested a moment to verify RD's world! I leave that to Dr. Phil and his flock!
Sure thing Boo I insulted you, didn't realize you were soo very sensitive, pull up your big boy pants, or don't post shit if you don't like the comments.
Lol thanks for the laugh. You do realize professional wrestling isn't real...do you?
Of course I am 25. I'm a father and, outside of serious injury or death, my kids meeting someone like you is my biggest single fear. It's bad enough that I'm posting on the same board as a depraved old man deviant like you and most certainly why I long ago abandoned any notion of meeting anyone from here.
What fucking right do you think you have, to discuss my children, I haven't discussed them here with you nor anyone else, you are constantly dredging up old business, you want to talk about Vince Micheals, he died 3 years ago, the only thing I ever said was the same as what founder, Papi, and dozens of others said the same thing, tell us how did anything you did make a single child safer, you stupid bigoted hypocrite.
As a matter of fact as long as I've seen you posting it's always been one straw man after another, with you it's always the same any interaction with you no matter how it begins, becomes unpleasant on line, why should any one expect any interaction with you IRL to not be the same way.
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SJG
In fact, his posts and your never-ending defense of him still stick in my head to this day. It's the only regret I have about posting here. Every time one of my kids performs in some activity I wonder if there is someone like you in the audience and feel a bit of shame for posting in a place like this.
So just shut the fuck up before you dig yourself in even worse.
You are a joke and the laughing stock of the board.
Want me to shut up before I dig myself even worse, let's see you make me you pussy.
Once at a pretty dead club in Dallas a kid sat down near me at the bar and started doing homework. Probably expecting a question from me she said "My mom works here" without looking up. I asked here where her mother was. She said "In the back. You know, doing it."
Unfortunately wise beyond her years. Comes from having Mother of the Year.
@gold: Where in the world can a stripper bring a kid to a club? Was this maybe in a different (and more lenient) era?
Would we be willing to pay a $5 - 10 higher cover charge so the club could maintain a nearby childcare facility? It's easy to criticize, until you have to put your money where your mouth is.
Does it really have to be traumatic for a kid if their mom is "doing it"? Seems like it depends what the "it" is. If "it" isn't something that mom can only do when she feels desperate or numbed up with substances, how would it cause trauma to the mom or her kid? I mean humans often seem happier when they don't really try to make any sense. So, if you want to be a sex work customer, but still think about sex work like a deacon at a Lutheran church, like John Lennon said, whatever gets you through the night, whatever gets you through your life.
Thankfully we have an expert on this thread who is the authority of everything strip clubs, even more so than dancers themselves
For money in a seedy strip club back room? At the very least that's a surefire way to instill a very unique value system in the mind of a child, one which would be at odds with those of most people that child has to deal with in this world.
Or at least a part time dancer who trolls a strip club website and seems to connect better with anime characters than the motives of real people. 😉
I have no problem with the way Mom was making a living. I just question having the kid with you in the strip club.
OTOH it may just be she was caught between a rock and a hard place. She had to make money but had to account for the kid. I suppose having her at the club beats the alternative of leaving her alone at home. If these are the only two options ...
IME a certain % of the girls who strip full time for years on end do so because they cannot tolerate being locked down in a plain vanilla job. For the extreme versions of these girls, intolerance to anything that traps them also seems to extend to their babies. I won't opine as to the root causes of this phenomenon, but suffice it to say that these are girls who are just not emotionally geared towards living a vanilla lifestyle, whether it's punching a clock or being trapped day and night in a house with a dependent child.
Again though, this is no criticism. They know themselves enough to wish to give their babies more than they themselves are equipped to provide, which IMHO is something worth applauding.
Rick, don't worry, if you lose you can always have the results overturned by the Florida state legislature.
RickiBoi responded: “Believe what you want, not that it's remotely relevant to this discussion. I am discreet.”
Phil explains phor the phactually challenged:
As many on here, including Messrs. 25, Daddillac, and Tetra, are well aware, RickiBoi does not have to be discreet because the wife and kids are fictional. A normal caring father wouldn’t bring up his kids on a website for perverts (no insult intended for the normal perverts).
Either RickiBoi’s family man persona is fiction or his demented pervert persona is fiction. I betting that RickiBoi is actually a demented pervert. What does the peanut gallery think?
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RickiBoi showing off his true persona: too much of a loser to bag a wife or even have fun demented pervert action, so he became a clown! 🤡
Do some funny dances with your buddy in the lion 🦁 cage Mr. Clown 🤡