How long do we have to wait for this fucking guy to stop talking to this dancer?
Muddy
USA
How long? Do I gotta sit here for 3 fucking hours waiting for him to tell this girl his life story. Watch her pretend to care.
I get it, she's your favorite, I got it but touch and go. Say hi, get your dances or don't and then GTFO. I'm a respectful guy, I respect guy code, I'm not gonna barge in, BUT I will chime in with a loud "UGH"
I've hated on the ticket system in the past, it feels like deli, but you know what, not for nothing, not the worst idea. Not the worst idea at all. I could use a "NEXT!" in my life in these clubs waiting for these girls to get free.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE TWO TALKING ABOUT?!?! SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO! SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU DUDE! I'll tell you what, while I'm fucking this girl, I'll let you talk to her from outside the curtain. I'm sure she fucking loves to hear about your stupid grandma's food and your shitty job. Fuck outta here. I'm convinced this is why fugly girls make any money at all, people got sick of waiting. https://youtu.be/A1xjl00sbao?t=15
I get it, she's your favorite, I got it but touch and go. Say hi, get your dances or don't and then GTFO. I'm a respectful guy, I respect guy code, I'm not gonna barge in, BUT I will chime in with a loud "UGH"
I've hated on the ticket system in the past, it feels like deli, but you know what, not for nothing, not the worst idea. Not the worst idea at all. I could use a "NEXT!" in my life in these clubs waiting for these girls to get free.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE TWO TALKING ABOUT?!?! SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO! SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU DUDE! I'll tell you what, while I'm fucking this girl, I'll let you talk to her from outside the curtain. I'm sure she fucking loves to hear about your stupid grandma's food and your shitty job. Fuck outta here. I'm convinced this is why fugly girls make any money at all, people got sick of waiting. https://youtu.be/A1xjl00sbao?t=15
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Only thing u can do is wait for her to go on stage and talk to her then - or if u can walk near her, make eye-contact and smile to let her know your interest (better if u do it w/o him noticing that way she can more easily make an excuse to bail if she so wishes).
A club I used to hit when I SCed more-often had an M.O. where dancers would sit and talk with PLs for extended periods of time - when they would announce a 2-for-1 some of the dudes would still not take them for a dance and the chicks would stay sitting there - on multiple occassions I'd walk behind the dude, make eye-contact with the girl, point to the dance-booths, and off we'd go - not saying this is foolproof but often better than doing nothing.
Also try to wave at her and get her attention if she glances your way.
Otherwise put you big boy pants on and move on. Make a fugly's night.
I had a regular who complained to me she wasn't making enough money because most of her regulars, unlike me, wanted to sit and talk with her for long periods of time. She then tried to switch away from that and just do lap dances but found she made even less money that way. She ended up quitting.
I would say that if you really like your regular you should be cognizant that they won't stay working at the club unless they can reach a certain income level. You either need to give them a lot of money or not be greedy and be willing to share them with all the other customers.
This lets her know you're interested while giving her an easy way to extricate herself from her current situation- if she so chooses. And if she doesn't, you know to move on and not waste any more time.
Very classy move! 🔆😘💋
At least with one specific dancer anyway has been my ATF for a while. She knows when I'm coming in and blocks off that time.
We'll sit talk drink and laugh, go back for dances and repeat something 2 or 3 hrs. She knows she has the option to dance with a reg she rarely will. I respect her time and she's compensated.
I get more then my share and dirty looks. She's polite when declining time with someone else and shitty when they're shitty. She even told one asshole that was being rude that I was her uncle. That's a whole nother story.
Before you jump all over me for being wrong remember what's been said multiple times. Never tell someone how to have fun.
It brings up a good point- you never know if a girl is being paid just for spending time. That's another reason why enlisting the bartender's help can be key- sometimes you can get good intel. Maybe that's a whale who pays her for her company and nothing will tempt her to leave his side, or maybe you can find out a little more about her schedule and get there early the next time she's there.
Work smarter, not harder! 😉
This one's easy. Until she decides to leave. Or you do.
On a semi-serious note, not every girl exists to take that $40 burning a hole in your pocket. She knows you're there ogling her, she's just choosing to stay where she is. Sometimes we must be adaptable enough to shift to Plan B or just walk away if no other good option exists. I can think of much better uses of my time than waiting 3 hours for a girl who is clearly occupied. Just a few thoughts.
I take nothing personally as she is working and I am not. Sometimes it sucks but one of my absolute rules is I avoid any drama.
this happened again a second time. reality hits me: dude that cb has her wrapped up on his finger. find another target. i thought of anticipating when the cb would arrive at the club but i figured that dick and the fave would have the timing down on when they would both show up at nearly the same time.
so to the ones who are bothered by cb's - yeah sure they suck baboon balls. but hey if the girl you are into is more interested in hanging out with cb than you then yeah you have to swallow that bitter pill. if you plan well in advance or have a good knack for adapting on the fly then these moments won't sting as much. you can curse and wish death on cb piece of shit every time you step into the club but why?
Anyway, fun night!
yeah i've been guilty of playing the whale part. overall it all evens out.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. The ticket system might be a brilliant idea. Muddy, I suggest that you immediately test market it over on stripperweb so that we can assess the reactions. Just use an account that you're not attached to 'cause...you know...they might not immediately recognize the genius for what it is. ;)
I think the important niggle here is: it's regular part, not just a whale part. I mean, whales DO get this treatment of course, but you don't have to be a legit $1000-or-more-per-night whale to get this treatment. Regulars get this treatment all the time, I get it regularly buying a few VIP rooms per trip, easily within reach of many PLs -- schedule on her slow time, show up regularly. So it's not out of reach financially, it's just a choice, and if you choose the freedom of variety, don't complain that you don't get the perqs of regulars.
Meanwhile, some of you should consider the possibility that she knows what makes her money better than you do -- granted, there may be a lazy idiot in this scenario, but it might not be her.
I dunno studme! Would it be a brilliant business move for the club to alienate its whales and regulars and drive them elsewhere (along with, potentially, the girls who are best at attracting whales and regulars) to cater to random guys who, as Rick put it, have $40 burning in their pocket? Super smart business move? And for those clubs that are ICs, even better and more fair for the strippers, "you have a guy who comes in every week and spends $500, but we're going to force you to go circulate and make $40 instead ... oh yeah, you still owe your full stage fees and tipouts. Oh, is that your regular walking out the door to a better club?"
I dunno, I get the frustration at walking in and seeing the girl you want is locked up for a couple of hours, it's sure happened to me. I don't get the complete lack of business basics that insist the strippers and clubs are idiots for not catering to random unknowns rather than making the business choice to delight their known whales and regulars.
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Not much one can do other than be proactive about getting with her - sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
At Delilahs in Philly, which purports to be an upscale gentlemen’s club, the super hot dancers would sit with a guy (presumably a whale) for a while but then leave for some private time - often gone for the duration of my visit.
The more gritty strip club - Cheerleaders Philly, dancers would just sit for hours drinking with their regulars.
Delilahs’ I think has a business plan to keep and milk whales.
At Cheerleaders I think the dancers are just doing their thing for a variety of motives - for money, to drink for free, to socialize with someone they like, they’re not feeling it tonight, they’re lazy, etc.
I understand the Delilahs scenario as a business plan on the part of the club, but not the Cheerleaders scenario.
If I go to a civilian bar alone I always strike up a conversation and talk to other customers - especially women and not even necessarily because I find them attractive.
At a strip club I almost never talk to other customers and don’t even talk to the dancers that much. I especially don’t want to make small talk with some dancer I not attracted to.
Worked in the pool hall and arcade, why not the strip club.
1. Not every strip club I go to has waitresses, a lot don't
2. 3 hours is called hyperbole
3. I've been trying to trim the unibrow is it coming in again, fuck!
4. And just too clear everything up, it was $47 in my pocket ok, get it right. Get it right God Dammit.
That's why you're really upset
His response? Spend more money if you want her attention.
>> But IME any girl who sits with a guy for an extended stretch has a reason for it
Rickdugan is correct. It's pretty damn simple.
As if that's news.
See her outside, take her home with you, put her on retainer.
SJG
This isn't always the case, but often when a dancer sits with a guy for a long time it's because (1) they're getting paid, or (2) they're taking a break from working the room by sitting with a guy they know. I know dancers who have regulars that tip very generously at the end of a VIP not *just* because of the VIP experience, but also because the dancer spend [X] amount of time chatting with them.
I don't know. I guess in some cases it's a regular "locking down" a dancer, but just as often it's two people making the choice to talk to each other for a while.
I just find another dancer, when I'm in that spot.
Baloney Papi. This is not one of those "each side has an opinion that could be equally valid" moments. This is about some self entitled whiny bitches who think that each girl is nothing more than communal property who should be equally shared. They don't accept the notion that they are not inherently entitled to grab her tits in a LD room or that she is free to use her her time as she sees fit, which btw she pays for out of her own pocket.
This position is morally wrong and economically counter-productive for dancers who rely upon regulars for their income. Period.
There are only a couple of girls I will do this with. They are some of the top girls in the club. This is not just my opinion. The empirical evidence is the guys lined up to tip them when they go on stage.
I don’t insist they stay only with me while I am there, and they know they don’t have to. Of course, I don’t have to let them either and wouldn’t if I didn’t enjoy their company. I would send them away quickly if I didn’t. They choose to sit with me because they know they will be treated fairly. Actually, better than fairly, but not extravagantly. I know I’m not the biggest spender in the club. I work too hard for my money to just throw it away.
They know this too, and know they might be able to make more money hustling other guys in the club. But maybe not. Hitting up random customers might result in a jackpot. Or maybe not. On the other hand, they know I’ll provide a solid return on the investment of their time. And free drinks and food, if they want it.
I’m not claiming all the good looking girls want to sit with me for hours. They don’t. Most do want to spend their time looking for the jackpot. Good for them. But I’ve found a couple that take a different approach to the job.
So, anyway, you don’t need to be a needy whale to lock down one of the best looking girls in the club for hours at a time.
Oh, and I hate it when some asshole sends over a drink for her. That just guarantees I’ll stay another hour.
If you want more and don't negotiate before that's on you
And some of those responses are from some of the same people who complain about the *dancer's* sense of entitlement for wanting to be tipped!
As far as all this mistrust and anger towards dancers. Don't go to strip clubs if you're paranoid everyone wants to rip you off.
^^^ over dramatize much? It's simple - strippers want to make the most money for the least effort and PLs want to get the most stripper attention for the least cost. Not that complicated nor dramatic. You get the PLs perspective over here because there are more PLs.
Now to balance what you said and make the universe right again, I think you should go over to stripperweb and post:
"As far as all this mistrust and anger towards customers. Don't work at strip clubs if you're paranoid everyone wants to rip you off."
But that would just be stirring the pot up over there, no? 🤭🤡
^^^ keep up da great work Muddy! Show dem guys who da boss is!
^^^ @Mackie fixed it for you!