Hookers. From customer to lover?
Icee Loco (asshole)
I'm a fucking loser
What are your thoughts?
I think its possible if....
There is a genuine connection like with any woman
You offer something she lacks in her life but needs
She wants to quit and you're her way out
But in each scenario your relationship isn't contingent on you giving her money. If it is then it's just p4p. Paying for a gfe.
I think its possible if....
There is a genuine connection like with any woman
You offer something she lacks in her life but needs
She wants to quit and you're her way out
But in each scenario your relationship isn't contingent on you giving her money. If it is then it's just p4p. Paying for a gfe.
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It was good though. Until some fuckhead drunk driver killed her.
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In this example, the poor PL thought he had a "relationship" with a coke junkie stripper whore. The poor PL thought he had something to offer her but in the end all it was was the drugs and money. The poor PL even had an engagement ring for her. But in the end, as you even state, it was just paying for a GFE. And the poor PL just about killed himself over it.
You should learn from "his" example.
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- Act confident
- Spend money -- not on her sexual services though
- Never be a trick!
- Never approach her like a customer. Tell her you like her ambition, or the way her eyes light up ❤️
- Get her hooked on drugs
- Control every aspect of her life
- Isolate her from her friends and family
- Treat her like a queen and then disappear for a while. Let her sweat that out lulz
- Don't be afraid to discipline her! 🤜
I could go on, but frankly, you guys should be paying me for this shit lulz
I will play along and answer your questions and comment in your discussion.
Q: Hookers. From customer to lover?
A: In this life anything is possible, we all have known about this from some TUSCL members and the hobbyists in the Internet, news, movies, books etc etc
Q: What are your thoughts?
A: I think that everyone in this Capitalist society is aware that “Nothing is free.” Everything has to be paid for. For every object/experience/material or un-material “thing”, payment in some form must be given...
You should know that in life there is a price to be paid for achieving anything of significance (Or insignificance to others).
Of course the price is different for each individual situation. Some people get bargains, some overpaid, in any case the price is paid...
A hooker is in survival mode when she's working. She doesn't even consider it sex.
I've seen hookers settle with tricks once they want to stop hoeing. But that's it.
That link is a textbook example of exactly what you're preaching my niggette. 🤭🤡😂🤣
My 5 year relationship ended because she thought I was too controlling ... Making sure she only took the bare minimum of coke. Id show her the money we'd save and would buy her gifts. Dedigner bags. Shoes. Expensive makeup to try to show her this is what she can have instead of snorting it up her nose.
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...She started fucking other guys for coke. And she ended up with a broke ass bum wannabe pimp junkie.
She called me controlling and obsessive...
...he sells her pussy so they can get high.
The pain got to be too much for me when I saw them together. ...
...I love her so much.
I couldn't handle it anymore so I planned on getting fucked up at the club she used to work at and then overdosing on heroin...."
^^^ @icee this is what happens to a customer of a coke junkie stripper whore. You should learn from it! 🤭🤡😂🤣
But as the years have rolled on and I've seen several generations of dancers cycle through the clubs, I've learned another lesson as well: You can't turn an alley cat into a house cat. Now I'm not talking about the tourist dancers who shows a little titty every so often in one club or another as they go through college and/or prepare to publish articles/blogs/books talking about the lifestyle that they really didn't live. I'm talking about those girls who dance for a living because they don't want to punch a clock for a living, which is just about any girl who has been dancing F/T for a year or more.
I've seen countless dancers burn out, grab on to some guy as a safety net, eventually grow to resent that guy and then end up back on the pole. In many cases there are kids involved. The same thing that made it difficult for a girl to work a steady job for a long time also makes living a stable life to be too confining for her. Now if you are a guy who doesn't mind living on the fringe then maybe you can make it work, but for a 9 to 5 ham 'n egger with a day job and bills to pay, dating a (former) career stripper is a breakup waiting to happen.
Anyway just my two cents fwiw.
The only way to have a normal relationship with them is toq never trick. And even then you need a really thick skin.
As you mention, there are aspects of your life that appeal to the prostitute. But, your money is likely more appealing to her.
In my view, this is something that might seem great, based on a perceived connection. But, it’s highly unlikely to actually work out.
The longer she dances the older she gets the more competition she has so old dancers are more likely to turn tricks to stay relevant when they have no other option.
Dancers start hoeing because they have a pimp or they're desperate. A lot of naive girls get recruited by girls pretending to be their friends. Convincing them of the lifestyle they can have...then introducing them to their pimp...
But once a guy is a customer thats pretty much where he stays
For starters ou didn't answer my questions. Is she a "hoe" if she makes him cum in his own pants or only does HJs? Where's the line before she moved in your mind from "dancer" to "hoe?" Btw you actually sounds like a slightly retarded and bitter ex-dancer when you post like that. Just sayin.
The reality is much more nuanced. There are girls who dip their toes in p4p and then pull back because the money isn't worth it to them. There are some that do so only selectively when the money and conditions are right. There are even some girls that only do it when they have extraordinary cash needs or are saving for something. And yes, there are of course those girls who do it as a matter of course, but that is certainly not all of them.
All this thread is about is icee's way of preaching that a trick should never expect to be anything more. She's literally repeated the same thing with every post. It's really the only intent of her posting. To repeat the echo in her own head. A "do loop" is in her head.
Observe...
Icee post #1: "...But in each scenario your relationship isn't contingent on you giving her money. If it is then it's just p4p. Paying for a gfe."
Icee post #2: "I think once a guy is a customer. He's pretty much stuck in that category. Unless she has something more to gain from him then she has no incentive to give the money up..."
Icee post #3: "...The only way to have a normal relationship with them is toq never trick..."
Icee post #4: "...But once a guy is a customer thats pretty much where he stays"
Icee post #5: "...Once money is exchanged for her services her only goal is to keep it coming. You can have a pleasant business relationship or you can buy a gfe. But her goal is always more money..."
^^^she can't help but make the same point over and over again. It's a compulsion. 🤣🤣🤣
Another educational event was watching an older friend, in the midst of a divorce, who got sucked into a romance hustle. This girl was old school with incredible skillz who was a master not only of milking him while making it seem like it was all his idea, but artfully disengaging when the ride was over (when he was filing for bankruptcy) so that it did not blow back on her. It was truly masterful - the girl should teach a clinic.
These two educational episodes truly freed me to enjoy these girls in a healthy way, without any confusion about expectations. When I was still young and a girl intimated that she would like me to take her on a date, I always had my previous stripper dating experience (knowing myself enough to know that I'd be too jealous) to explain my reluctance to do anything beyond p4p. This shielded me from both romance hustles and the off chance that a girl was serious. Then of course as I aged and had a family I no longer needed that story, lol.
Net-net a strip club is never a place for a guy with a normal value system to look for romance. The only thing worse than the risk that she's running a romance hustle is the risk that you'll actually catch her and get sucked into her dysfunction. Either way no bueno.
At that point you might as well just be the "trick" and pay but also avoid getting wrapped up in the drama and emotional hassle.
Or, as icee said, you gotta have that tough skin and just put up with the fact that your stripper "girlfriend" is also a whore. You've gotta be OK with sloppy seconds on the regular. You feeling me with this one, my niggette icee? 😂😂😂
Talk to a dancer long enough, most will admit to dating a customer.
What was funny in hindsight was how she reacted when I finally asked her out on a date, just a young man asking a girl to see him again. She stared at me for a moment, then a serious look came over her face and she said: "If I say yes I don't ever want to see you in here again." I quickly agreed, after which she wouldn't accept another nickel from me for the rest of the night except for another drink - even saying "this isn't really what you want to do, is it?" when I attempted to tip her during her next stage set.
She was something, but it was also a different time. The girls working in the industry back then were more mature and overall emotionally tougher than they are today. But even still soon I couldn't handle her job, yet I also couldn't ask her to quit. She was the sole support for her young son and the relationship was way new for me to invite her to move in, especially with the kid to consider. All I could do, before I started making her and myself miserable, was cut her loose.
As far as dancers go yeah they're easy to date. But it's the same. Once you're a customer you're a legit mark for her.
^^^ icee is clearly obsessed and compelled to keep making this point, with each and every post. Even though she's made it 5x before. 🤭🤡😂🤣
Ok, if it's not nuanced then stop dodging the questions:
Is she a "hoe" if she makes him cum in his own pants or only does HJs? Where's the line before she moved in your mind from "dancer" to "hoe?" Is his getting off enough by itself, even if he's one of the premature ejaculators who can cum in their own pants?
Inquiring minds want to know.
^^^ icee is clearly obsessed and compelled to keep making this point, with each and every post. Even though she's made it 6x before. 🤭🤡😂🤣
(LMFAO now even paying for a lapdance is prostitution.)
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^^^ icee is clearly obsessed and compelled to keep making this point, with each and every post. Even though she's made it 7x before. 🤭🤡😂🤣
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The topic was about Ho's without paying and I dated a woman that I met as an escort initially for a couple of years. I had no fantasy of anything else than enjoying the ride while it was happening and love was not an issue for me. I even hung out with her and a client or two during holidays or parties.
I didn't over-analyze it like what I read about here. It was just fun. We went on some vacations together and I had some of the most memorable fun times in my life. But, I never looked at it as more than someone who I had fun with. It's probably been over 15 years since I met her and, while we don't date, we are still friends and talk several times a year.
People are people and, as long as you are open to the situation, stuff just happens. As long as you don't overreact or overanalyze, you can have fun.
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^^^ @icee yes of course, but if you are controlling her drug use and taking money from her working, then for sure you're not "dating" her. And it's still stuff revolving around her work even though it's not at the club per se.
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