My legal analysis of the Rittenhouse trial...
Icee Loco (asshole)
I'm a fucking loser
A lot of it will come down to how Wisconsin state law interprets certain concepts.
I think first degree murder charge won't stick and will come down to second degree murder at most. Although it should stick. Even if doubts can be cast on why he killed Rosenbaum. The fact that he did not turn himself in nor retreat after the murder. He murdered Huber. Which makes the murder intentional. He then proceeded to shoot Grosskreutz. Rittenhouse intentionally put himself into these situations and only retreated after killing 2 people and wounding 1. This hurts his self defense claim. As does the fact that he admits to having been there as a vigilante. So I'm thinking he will be convicted of second degree murder.
Rittenhouse's attorneys are using the same strategy that's used in police shootings. Problem is Rittenhouse isn't a cop. So it'll come down to whether his acts were reasonable given the scenario and imminent threat. But will hinge on why he didn't retreat when faced with said threat. Thats going to be the main thing.
I think first degree murder charge won't stick and will come down to second degree murder at most. Although it should stick. Even if doubts can be cast on why he killed Rosenbaum. The fact that he did not turn himself in nor retreat after the murder. He murdered Huber. Which makes the murder intentional. He then proceeded to shoot Grosskreutz. Rittenhouse intentionally put himself into these situations and only retreated after killing 2 people and wounding 1. This hurts his self defense claim. As does the fact that he admits to having been there as a vigilante. So I'm thinking he will be convicted of second degree murder.
Rittenhouse's attorneys are using the same strategy that's used in police shootings. Problem is Rittenhouse isn't a cop. So it'll come down to whether his acts were reasonable given the scenario and imminent threat. But will hinge on why he didn't retreat when faced with said threat. Thats going to be the main thing.
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What bias will you claim when he walks?
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/ri…
Waiting for the claim of oMg tRoLlInG!!!!!
Their only self defense claim is stating he acted within reason given his lack of training and experience with a weapon in said situations.
The murder 1 charge is based on him not retreating after killing Rosenbaum. When he killed Huber. I don't believe this will stick because of Wisconsin state laws not clear cut enough in these matters.
There is nothing to indicate Rittenhouse initiated violence against anyone he shot. Being armed and in the area does not initiate violence.
False. Here's a Wisconsin lawyer on the matter. www.nglawyers.com
Why do you keep repeating yourself after you've been proven wrong?
You can see video of the actual assaults. One had nearly overtaken him. One was attacking him while he was on the ground. One was pointing a loaded gun at him while he was on the ground.
You're only attacking him with inflammatory, untrue phrases like "amerikkkan taliban" and "domestic terrorist" because you're aligned with Antifa yourself. And as has proven repeatedly on this board, completely fucking ignorant.
I cite actual lawyers, you call names. At this point I'm just rubbing your face in the truth.
Show me a case where a vigilante killed multiple people and got off
If you know of "one completely different case", I'm waiting for the citation.
What would you be saying if it was a lefty paramilitary--a Black Panther, a Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club guy--who got charged at a Tea Party or Proud Boys rally?
When was he supposed to retreat, when he was getting charged into a corner? Or attacked while on the ground?
A trial is about legal arguments. You're arguing like you would about a call in a sporting match.
You aren't making a legal argument, you're emoting and calling names. God forbid the facts and the law take precedence over wanting to see rioters get a free pass on their bad behavior.
Rittenhouse is guilty. Hes using an affirmative defense. It'll just come down to what he's guilty of.
From smoking and binge watching the trial. Its a travesty and injustice that a landmark case on self defense js taking place in Kenosha wisconsing.....with a biased judge and inept prosecut and defense.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/11/…
Now we pretty much just have to wait for the verdict
Binger argued, Rittenhouse instigated the first shooting by pointing his weapon at people, and caused the subsequent encounters by creating an "active shooter" situation in which protesters felt an urgency to disarm him.
"If you created the danger, you forfeit the right to self-defense by bringing that gun, aiming it at people, threatening people's lives," said Binger, who aimed the gun in front of the jury to demonstrate. "The defendant provoked everything."
Prosecution was too soft.
The judge biased.
And defense made a mistake by allowing ruttenhouse to be cross examined. He admitted to lying. Was disingenuous as he was evasive and when he did speak it was obvious he was well coached in what to say.
Defense is basing its case on a manipulated timeline of events ie claiming it was self defense since rittenhouse had a gun pointed at him. Ignoring the fact that that occurred only after he had already killed 2 people and was seen as a threat and active shooter.
It is a political trial despite everyone claiming otherwise. And the jury's verdict will be based on politics. We can thank Schroeder for turning the trial into a circus.
https://youtube.com/shorts/dPxJT92vX-k?f…
The lion guy has a point in his running joke about Kenosha having a purge. At least he’s found a way to get some chuckles about the whole thing. Well, to be fair, I suspect Mr. Icee is getting some chuckles by making all of y’all freak the fuck out.
Bad Mr. Icee, don’t you know that it’s too easy to get TUSCL posters to freak out by mentioning politics? Try to troll more subtly. And getting Mr. Skibum to freak out isn’t a win. That guys has some sort of Tourette syndrome thing going on but his tick is writing “fucking progressives ruined GIANT MOTHERFUCKING DONKEY BALLLS!!!”
Had a Tourette attack. My tick is shouting “GIANT MOTHERFUCKING DONKEY BALLS!” Can be embarrassing, but it’s still less embarrassing than being Mr. Skibum and dealing with his tick.
Mark you know that's a lie.
Step 2. A civil trial where he'll lose.
I knew murder 1 wouldn't stick.
The key now is for the families of the victims to go after him in civil court ruin his reputation even more and ruin him financially. They'll win a civil case.
I'm curious about the jury interviews.
Killing 2 people and wounding a third claiming its self defense coz the third is ridiculous. At that point he was an active shooter.
The families of the victims now have to go after rittenhouse in civil court.
For the next time, he should heed the maxim "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
No, you're quite an ordinary retard.
Icey why don’t you stick to something you’re good at, like posting pics of gordita heifers with cankles and then calling them hot and getting mad when people on this forum don’t agree.
Case Result: Not guilty
Ps - he will not lose the civil cases. Your racism is blinding your objectivity as usual.
It’s ok, keep making predictions, a broken clock is right twice a day.
The judge was biased. And the prosecutor made mistakes. Kenosha was a bad venue for the trial.
Rittenhouse will lose civil cases.
The judge was biased. And the prosecutor made mistakes. Kenosha was a bad venue for the trial.
Rittenhouse will lose civil cases.
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Make all the excuses you want. You were WRONG. You don’t even understand the case, just another foo foo wannabe left wing loon thinking the case is about something it’s not. Ps and if you were as really as progressive as you claim, you would never ever use the word ‘retard’ which is more proof you’re just a fugazi troll.
Certainly an expert legal predictor like yourself accounted for such possibilities?
Naah, you're just an idiot.
Now fuck off trolls
Oh, and he claims to know employment law when he’s self employed “entrepreneur”. Yeah, right. Thanks for validating every member who has ever disagreed with you, Icee!
Now, he's scrambling to move the goalposts. No, I didn't mean what I said in plain language above! Stop trolling me!
Icey, more like Saltey! LOL
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