Definitive Proof

I think the one silver lining of this dark catastrophe of a presidency is this:

We can stop pretending like the hatred of brown people has validity.

For years, I've heard: "I don't dislike immigrants, just the illegal ones." Though I disagree with the idea, it's fair at least. Maybe you're a stickler for the rule of law.

However, if that were true, these same people would be outraged at the illegality of Trump's attacks on immigrants and brown people in general. Deportations without hearings. The attempt to override the constitution by fiat. The unprecedented deployment of troops on US soil. The brutal arrests of US citizens, like this one theguardian.com

Yet, in the face of such reckless lawlessness, every Republican I know is unoffended. Which tells us a stone cold fact: It's always been about hatred of brown people, never about enforcing immigration laws.

The cruelty and hatred is the point. Once you understand that, you can make sense of why we would deny a fucking little league team the right to enter the country.

"....Gigantic Assholes"

I find hard core conservatives to have very TIGHT assholes....like clenched up. That's why they're full of shit.

Just look up Gumaman and skinbung's comments over the years as evidence.

Puddy, not so much.....he likes to take a quorum from all of us, thus a stretched anal sphincter.

I wish nothing but sadness, misfortune, pain and sorrow on all progressives.

@chunkychicano / Rick... I think your view of BLM is fundamentally flawed.

That was a movement, not an organization. Though some communist grifters did create a website and organization around the movement (ex post facto), that shitty organization does not represent the people who supported the movement. The people who supported BLM is a broad and diverse array of individuals and even included Mitt Fucking Romney. cnn.com

The movement was LARGELY peaceful and non-violent, in spite of the fact that CNN and FOX managed to setup and film in front of every single incident of vandalism or arson. Opportunists, anarchocommunists and ulta right wing nationalist nutjobs were largely responsible for the looting and arson that did occur. The violence and looting was condemned widely by Dems and GOP alike. And it also all occurred during the pandemic, at a time where EVERYONE in the country was operating on a very short fuse.

In contrast, the J6 rally was organized by the Trump campaign. Trump spoke at it. He told people to march on the capital (even said he would join them, but he is a pussy so he didn't.)

I just don't think you can remotely compare the two things.

Bondi has the proof on her desk that Little League is run by Antifa.

But BLM started because of the idea that black people were disproportionately affected by police violence relative to their population size.

Right, do you disagree that this is (or was) the case @chunkychicano? Unfortunately, we have very little data on police shootings, which is a problem itself. But to me it seems accurate that black americans (men in particular) are subjected to harsher and more violent treatment from the police.

But then they started addressing even non police related incidents that involved black people.

Who is the "they" here? Again, it was a movement that a broad array of people participated in. Do you consider Mitt Romney to be a Black supremacist? Hell, I went out and marched for Black Lives in 2021, am I a black supremacist?

Again, BLM, the organization, is a bunch of commie grifters. What they did doesn't reflect on all the participants in the movement.

Also as far as “terrorist group” the term is used extremely loosely these days.

Totally agreed. The legal concept for a "terrorist organization" was created in the early aughts post 9/11. Personally, I had huge problems with it at the time, it massively amplified executive authority and curtailed numerous individual liberties. I have huge problems with it to this day.

Just wait until the shitstorm that's going to happen once Trump starts bombing Culiacán or Juarez, with no oversight, now that he's put several cartels on the terror list.

As far as you or Romney being black supremacist, it comes down to your reasons for why you participated in a BLM protest. As far as you or Romney being black supremacist, it comes down to your reasons for why you participated in a BLM protest. If youre aware that a multitude of races are affected by police violence or inter racial violence, and yet choose to only protest for one particular race, that indicates supremacist/racist views.

@chunkychicano... My reason for participating was quite simple: I do believe we have an epidemic of police violence in the US. I was absolutely outraged by the senseless slaying of George Floyd. I further believe that black men are disproportionately affected by police violence.

I also understand it's not just black men affected. As you point out, the police unjustly kill white men too. However, the vast majority of the solutions participants in the movement advocated for would benefit everyone. Body cams on cops, everywhere. Independent review and data collection of all police shootings. Criminal charges for police who misuse deadly force. More de-escalation training for police, training in community policing tactics. Curtailing our growing paramilitarization of police forces. The list goes on, but all of these things would benefit EVERYONE, not just black men.

Finally, I'm skeptical on some of your claims about the data. I don't think a lot of the data you claim actually exists. To my knowledge, there is still no reliable data (federal or otherwise) on police shootings nationwide. reason.com

It isn't about Liberal or Conservative, really. It's about how we define eqaul access to resources and safety. There are some so called "Conservatives" that are not cool with people being brutalized. There are also a lot of so called "Conservatives" who buy all the fear mongering and "othering" ideas that cause us to move away from the concept of humanity.

"Mitt Romney? LOL, Romney has no principles whatsoever. Find a better across-the-aisle spokesman, bro."

Yes! Donald Trump clearly has more principles than Mitt Romney.

"What's the difference between a moron and a mormon? A little m.

Malcolm X was in the Nation of Islam. Then he realized Islam was not compatible with animosity towards white people as a group. Then he was assassinated. Fred Hampton was a Panther. Then he started organizing with poor whites and Latinos. Then he was assassinated. MLK started focusing on issues that cut across racial lines, like lack of economic opportunity and the Vietnam War. Then he was assassinated. It shouldn't be assumed, that when black people organize primarily among themselves, it's about excluding white people. A lot of it is just the degree that there is still de facto segregation. It seems like lower-income people are even more segregated than people generally.

Hitler was a socialist, just like the present day democrats.

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Malcolm X was a pig, but not a pedophile like Mohammed.