Texas Stripper Age 21

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samiel
DFW, Texas
So a bunch of girls I know just got fired for being under 21. Apparently a bill was signed into law this morning making the minimum age 21. Apparently this applies to staff as well.

I haven't been able to find a news source yet to verify though. Anyone else heard anything? Thoughts? Apparently girls are easier to traffick if they are 18 as opposed to 21. Seems arbitrary and without warning.

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gammanu95
4 years ago
You can suck and fuck when you're 18, you just can't profit from it until you're 21. That's just dumb.
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
With what desert scrub is saying by the time a man/women are in their yearly to mid 20s they should have a path of what they are going to do with your life career wise. if a woman still doesnt know what shes going to do and starts stripping around 21 she is probably a slut that eventhough she does not fuck for money she still probably has as many partners as a stripper who fucks for money. i find it hilarious when strippers brag about their bf banging them after 3 months because they are clean but for the price of a lap dance they are grinding on your dick within 3 minutes of meeting her. this is a good bill, makes women try something else before they elimate good partners that would want a long term relationship with them
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 years ago
I know this runs contrary to the motives of a lot of guys here, but I'm 100% okay with an age barrier starting at 21 years old. And I'm suspicious of any guy who's actively seeks to skate along that statutory rape line.

There are plenty of hot women who are 21 years old (and older).
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samiel
4 years ago
My biggest gripe is that it caught a lot of people unaware. Suddenly hundreds of people are out of work. Not just dancers. Wait staff as well.
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
Good, SC clubs run through these girls when they dont have the image they are looking for. Protect girls from the real predators
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misterorange
4 years ago
Well then they should also raise the voting age to 21.
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
and the age to apply for a student/car loan
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twentyfive
4 years ago
Don’t forget the age to join the Army raise that as well
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nicespice
4 years ago
I’d assume the main motivation for this is to curtail drinking. Even the non liquor serving clubs allows byob so the opportunities to drink is plenty. (I remember some 19 year olds who enjoyed working at the club specifically so they could drink back when I first started)

Austin proper clubs voluntarily have been strictly 21 plus for years out of fear of the liquor board. The first time I applied to P10 in San Antonio the manager breathed a visible sigh of relief when he saw my age on the ID 🤣

I’m not sure how I feel about this law personally. For me personally, I didn’t start dancing until I was 22 and I think that was for the best. Especially since it was Texas. I had too much other things going on before that where I feel like it would have been easier to go down a darker path.

But on the other hand, I do have a live-and-let live viewpoint and my experiences are not others. Though San Antonio and Houston (and according to what PaulDrake said, also Dallas?) does have widespread pimp issues I’ll give it that.

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nicespice
4 years ago
I wonder how that is going to affect Lubbock. Last I recall, I remember quite a few younger dancers at one club over there.
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samiel
4 years ago
I read a related article that mentioned some people lobbied for it to reduce trafficking. Probably to also reduce underage drinking. Maybe 3 years makes more of a difference than I think.
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jackslash
4 years ago
Next they'll increase the dancer age to 50. That will cut down on trafficking.
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JimGassagain
4 years ago
^^^ those are Desertscrub’s favorite type of dancer!

Bacon!
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
I doubt the Clermont Lounge in Atlanta has hired a dancer under 40 in the last 20 years.
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Musterd21
4 years ago
I like buying a girl a drink so 21 is what I look for in a dancer.

I had one girl in Reno who was under 21 say if I took her to the VIP room she could drink…..????? Hmm….. was that just to get 500$ out of me? I don’t spend that kind of money!!!! ( I might on Spice lol)

I did have a 18 year old come up and steel my shot. I offered to buy her a drink and she said she was only 18. She did it a second time so I was down two drinks so my next drink I ordered a double. I had it in my hand and she came by and stole it out of my hand. She gulped it down took two steps back and said what was that ??? I said a double and she staggered to the dressing room. I had to leave for work so I don’t know what happened to her! lol 😎
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nicespice
4 years ago
If it’s any consolation, it may push more 18 year olds to seeking arrangements. Just be careful because abortion past 6 weeks has recently been banned as well.

With all this legislation about young females, I guess stuff like the energy grid has already been fixed lol
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samiel
4 years ago
Personally I don't mind the change in the law. I just wished they had given even a month's warning so people could look for other options.

It's strange how many things get moved to 21. I think cigarettes are there now too.
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whodey
4 years ago
Samiel I agree that giving people notice is a good thing but looking at your link for the legislation this isn't something new that just popped up this week. It was introduced in the state senate back in January, had a public hearing in April and then unanimously passed the senate later in April before moving to the house this month.

I would assume that the clubs were aware this was coming even if individual strippers weren't. I would place the blame on club management if they did not give the girls under 21 that were working there a heads up.

The 21 year old requirement makes sense in clubs that serve alcohol, especially if they promote buying drinks for the girls the way many around my area do. As far as I know the clubs around here require girls to be 21 to work and require customers to be 21 to enter.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 years ago
On Seeking Arrangements (SA), the posted ages for all users can be, to some degree, fictional. I've seen a few stories about SA girls posing as 18 but turning out to be younger than that, with the most recent being the whole Matt Gaetz fiasco. And I'm not looking to get into the politics of that, but it still causes me to be equally or more wary of 18 year-olds on SA as I am of 18 year-olds in strip clubs.

And I'm not interested in arguments along the lines of "But in some states, the age of consent is only...". Old guys skidding along the edge of statutory rape with mid-teen girls is creepy as fuck.

But, I agree with samiel. A month or two of warning would have made the transition less painful. Then again, the general opinions of anyone who works at or goes to strip clubs is low. A lot of people probably feel (wrongly) that they deserve the turmoil created.
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nicespice
4 years ago
The clubs don’t have to promote buying drinks. Especially in the central Texas area, the customers are hard partying enough that bottles practically sell themselves. I remember being at a club once that would subtract $2 from the house fee for every drink sold and was like dang, if this was in Texas I’d never have to pay a house fee 😅

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samiel
4 years ago
I agree it was in legislation for awhile, but I'm not sure if it's normal to make such things effective immediately. It was signed and put into effect immediately. Perhaps this is the norm.

As for SA, I recently did a search on Dallas for only 18 and not a huge amount of results came up. I'll do one again soon and see if it seemed to increase. Maybe set the filter to under 21.
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mark94
4 years ago
With all that’s going on in the world, this seems like an odd thing to prioritize with legislation.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 years ago
There can never be a widely agreed-upon list of priorities, legislatively or otherwise. And people can prioritize more than one thing at once. So, you may disagree with the priorities people set, but it's not odd.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 years ago
For a guy whose teenage daughter was assaulted or victimized somehow by a middle-aged guy, this might be the most important legislation in the world. And for all the people who know, or know of, that guy, it bumps up in importance for them as well.

Whereas for people who don't have daughters (or children at all), or like the idea of taking an 18(ish) year-old girl into VIP, this is a lot less important and we should worrying about other stuff first.
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TheeOSU
4 years ago
" I guess stuff like the energy grid has already been fixed lol"



Yeah don't get me started on that! IMO the grid going down for a long period of time by whatever reason is very possible yet power companies wont spend the money to harden the grid unless they're absolutely forced to and the politicians who can pass legislation to such effect would rather pass the buck, legislate meaningless feel good laws, or bicker among themselves over who controls the agenda.
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bkkruined
4 years ago
>Whereas for people who don't have daughters (or children at all), or like the idea of taking an 18(ish) year-old girl into VIP, this is a lot less important and we should worrying about other stuff first.

If they are old enough to be legally responsible enough to join the army and go to war, I don't see why they can't decide on going to the VIP.
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samiel
4 years ago
It's funny if you read the bill, there's a section that defines "child" there.

(1) "Child" means a person younger than 21 years of age.

So they are redefining what an adult is I guess.
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Muddy
4 years ago
Well Texas just killed it’s strip clubs with that little move. I didn’t hear anything about this. Texas is supposed to be land fo the free but they just pulled some New York California shit
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samiel
4 years ago
I did the SA search for 18 year olds and didn't seem to get a much larger set of results. The under 21 search always gives a ton of results.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
Laws like that have to do with alcohol sales
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
I have no issue with this change. It makes sense. It can be a challenge having younger dancers in a club selling alcohol when the drinking age is 21.

If you are a guy who must have 18 year old strippers - this move may save money. It will push those 18 year olds to sugar sites where you can now just pay to bang them.

I am not looking for the younger whores. My sweet spot is somewhere north of 30 - well used - seen better days - loose and sloppy! The type of woman who needs more than a drink to get ready...
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
Agree with Cashman. The 18-20 year olds will just have to escort or go on Seeking Arrangement. Or do as one future stripper I knew did-- start "babysitting" for guys without kids.
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
You talk about age limits on SA. I know a guy that was on SA and searched everything in his area. He was a teacher about 35. Found two of his students. One was 18 but the other had just turned 17. The 18 year old was listed as being 20 and the 17 year old was listed as being 21. the 18 year old had nudes in the private area. He was looking for someone quite a bit older but would run that search periodically. A year later he found another student. Never asked if he reported the 17 year old. I doubt it. He could always claim he did not recognize her.
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wallanon
4 years ago
I haven't been in the clubs much this year, but it'll be interesting to see what that does for the higher end places. Some of the central Texas clubs that used to be sure things were already having trouble keeping enough girls on the floor.
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whodey
4 years ago
Looks like a petition has been started to change it back to 18 to dance in Texas.

https://www.change.org/p/texas-state-sen…

I doubt the petition will do much but it couldn't hurt.

My guess is that the only way they would start to allow dancers under 21 back into clubs would be to not allow them in any club with a liquor license like some other states.
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samiel
4 years ago
I always see these change.org petitions and wonder if they actually ever change anything.
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3131
4 years ago
I have never understood the different age cut offs .

Vote = 18
Military = 18
Alcohol = 21
Tobacco = 18 ( 21 now in some states)
Age to give consent = varies by state.

I can see where working in a bar should be 21.

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Bavarian
4 years ago
All the current under 21 dancers should have been grandfathered in.
Pretty bad to just cut them off from their source of income with hardly any warning. I know the legislation was introduced in January but I doubt anybody paid attention until it became law.

I know several dancers who are legit college students. I feel bad for them.
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wallanon
4 years ago
Been to a couple of TX clubs this week that seemed like business was ok, but have yet to see a night shift since the new rules took effect. Am thinking it will have a bigger impact on later shifts.
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8TM
3 years ago
https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/te…

A new law that goes into effect Sept. 1 will make Texas the first state to punish sex buyers with a felony.

HB 1540 was filed by state Rep. Senfronia Thompson, D-Houston. It passed both chambers of the state legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott.
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blahblahblah23
3 years ago
LOL
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boomer79
3 years ago
Of course if an 18 year old gets in trouble they’re an adult and fully responsible for their actions. Human trafficking is real but it’s also an excuse. I whenever the puritanical crowd can’t mind their own business they throw out sex trafficking and then suddenly they can say they’re protecting women instead of their real intent which is legislating their nosy backwards morality.
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