Still think facemasks are helping?
nickifree
Texas
COVID-19 death rates are rising to what they were at the start of the U.S. epidemic. This is happening even though people use facemasks in public areas in most places around the Country. It's happening in places where facemasks are mandatory and in places where they are optional. There is no difference in the data.
I said it on this site six months ago- facemask usage in public will not have much of affect in the spread, cases and death rate of COVID-19. The only reason the numbers went down was because of the lockdowns. People don't understand that products tested in a lab, and under controlled conditions, is vastly different from when those products are used in the field under uncontrolled conditions.
Facemasks are useless when people mishandle them. They also do nothing with their contaminated clothing. They bring the virus right into their homes. Mandatory facemasks laws are just an easy way for authorities to pretend that they can control the virus by making everyone wear them. Yet there is not one study that proves facemasks effectively reduce COVID-19 rates. None. Every study I've read that claim they do, are incidences where quarantines and lockdowns were also taking place. Now that human interaction is returning back to normal somewhat, we once again see spikes. So much for facemasks controlling the virus.
I said it on this site six months ago- facemask usage in public will not have much of affect in the spread, cases and death rate of COVID-19. The only reason the numbers went down was because of the lockdowns. People don't understand that products tested in a lab, and under controlled conditions, is vastly different from when those products are used in the field under uncontrolled conditions.
Facemasks are useless when people mishandle them. They also do nothing with their contaminated clothing. They bring the virus right into their homes. Mandatory facemasks laws are just an easy way for authorities to pretend that they can control the virus by making everyone wear them. Yet there is not one study that proves facemasks effectively reduce COVID-19 rates. None. Every study I've read that claim they do, are incidences where quarantines and lockdowns were also taking place. Now that human interaction is returning back to normal somewhat, we once again see spikes. So much for facemasks controlling the virus.
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Honestly the big problem is when people feel comfortable.
Basically this. Make the best decisions you can for yourselves and whomever you are responsible for and carry on.
Impossible to see reality in the moment.
Fauci said masks were not needed at the beginning but now says we should wear them. Really brings in questions of credibility.
Later, as more was LEARNED, the advice changed. The ability to change because of learning is relevant here.
Can someone explain to me when the 1st lockdown ended. I dont think we have been able to go anywhere without restrictions
I think you are conflating the fact that cases are up with face masks not helping, when in reality it's just that they aren't helping ENOUGH to mitigate increases due to wildly irresponsible behavior like throwing parties, gathering multiple households together, etc. Rules vary state by state, city by city and enforcement is spotty at best even in the "best" areas. We've now hit exponential growth levels that will render contact tracing and even mask usage ineffective to stop major increases in spread. What's needed are massive behavioral changes, but I'm not optimistic we'll see those.
Altogether it's just a gigantic mess with no centralized adult leadership to be found. Thank goodness it looks like vaccines may be extremely effective, otherwise I expect we'd continue to grind our population and economy down for years.
Now we wonder why no one believes the "experts".
I was wrong about that but he did write his familiar 'I called this back in.....'
now with thanksgiving just a week away can we guess how many new infected cases there will 2-3 weeks thereafter?
IF people truly believe this illness is a big deal (which I do not) then they should be staying home isolating. A flimsy piece of cloth over one's mouth is not only useless for all intents and purposes but outright silly.
Ernst Junger in The Worker wrote of a future where everyone would be required to wear masks as a means of stripping their individuality.
Its also a method of control by the elites and submission by the populace. Its no coincidence that the current practice came from Communist China. Well after the SARS breakout ended I would see Chinese people, ones recently from China or Asia with masks on for no apparent reason. I felt sad from them having been brainwashed and psycologically scarred to keep wearing this even after the illness went away. I was so glad that could never happen in western culture, or so I thought, lol.
I fesr most for what this is doing to kids. Putting these things even on toddlers is going to have longterm psychological effects we can't even imagine yet.
Why are you so concerned and worked up over thhs particular illness as opposed to every other illness, disease, or potential safety risk? If it wasn't obsessively talked about on the "news" would you even know it existed, or at least would you be so obsessed over it? Why othet than unwarranted hype should er be so concerned about an illness that has close to a 200 percent recovery rate and many people who supposedly have it don't even know?
Nothing about the response to this makes any rational sense.
One more point to the poster who talked about plague masks. Thats an argument against
That is basically admitting that the "health authorities" are just guessing and making things up as they go. If what they were saying 8 months ago was wrong then there is a high likelihood what they are saying now is also wrong.
Yes, they will probably become "less wrong" over time but still will be partly or even mostly wrong (that's even giving them the benefit of the doubt they are trying to be right rather than pushing agendas for ulterior reasons).
If society is going to engage in radical measures that limit people's rights and liberties it should have to be based on a lot more than guess work or being "less wrong" than they were previously.
If you choose NOT to wear a mask, you are also choosing reduced service and shopping options. You can no more force your way into a business requiring masks than you can be forced to wear a mask in your own home.
Cities that tried to shut down gay bathhouses got massive pushback (a few did shut them down but most didn't). Even suggestions of forced quarantines were met with extreme hostility by the media and civil liberties groups.
In fact, laws were passed preventing discrimination based on the fear of AIDS. We bent over bsckwards to protect the rights both of those positive and those in high risk groups.
In fact we bent
Imagine a business forcing a woman to wear a burka. How do you think that would go over.