ozymandias - I totally agree with you, especially on the lesbian thing. I think we could classify them as bi-sexuals though. DITTOS on the freaky ones, only ones I've been with OTC!
I think there is a double-edged sword here. On the one side, strippers are less inhibited, and are more likely to be wild in bed. So there is the possibility of doing things you have never done before. On the other side, strippers tend to have relationship issues, which can translate into self absorption and greed. So the long term sex outlook is for a lack of two-way communication and reciprocity. Of course, I've got an assumption going here - that one is interested in both emotional and physical intimacy, to make the sex all that more fulfilling. If the physical thing is all that counts, the relationship challenges don't matter, and we are back to the joys of wild sex.
So, intellectualism aside...the first time I ever got a blow job to completion (I wasted the first half of my life) was from a stripper, in my car, while I was driving to Vegas on a State highway, going 80 mph. I managed to stay on the road, just barely. That was mighty fine!
If they are good in bed it is because they are good in bed. it really has nothing to do with them being a stripper. That fact may be the reason that WE are turned on but that's about it.
Are strippers good in bed? Well the mileage is definitely high in bed. However it may depend on luck on how good they are. One girl just lied there. Another was like a wild animal. Different positions, tried to be quiet but was still disturbing the neighbors. Didn't let her get on top too much after she got so wild she was able to pull the condom right off and keep going without noticing. When a girl starts talking about her powerful muscles in her vagina, she might not be normal. I don't think she wanted to be.
Probably no better than the general population. One I had just lied there, and one I had was perpetual motion and a screamer. Of course, she was also fat, so you can't have everything.
Generalizations abound here. I have to agree, that if they are good in bed, it's because they are good in bed. Some are good, others just okay, and some horrible. The best I ever had was from a regular gal with a regular job. Fairly attractive (maybe a 7) but she would do anything and everything. Total oral fetish, and NEVER spilled a drop!
I once read that how a girl laughs is an indication of how she will be in bed. If she laughs without reservation, it's likely her in-bed performance will be similar. But if her laughter is restrained, so too will be her performance. I don't know how true this is but my ATF is pretty unrestrained when it comes to laughter, which makes for some pleasant dreams.
Are escorts good in bed? Judging by the reviews on different boards, I'd say their performances range from a 1 all the way up to a 10.
Are wives good in bed? Judging from my experience and that of those I know who are married, I'd say wives performances range from a 1 all the way up to a 10.
The intriguing part of this question to me that is not being asked is "are strippers more horny than average women?" When I ask them this question the answer I usually receive is yes, if a stripper at work is in a good mood and not having a bad day, feeling well, and having a good time with clients she likes, she can get very horny by doing her job, which they tell me in turn keeps her in the mood outside the club and would probably make them better than average in bed.
I agree with the general consensus here..it depends on the woman. Personally, I've had sex with 3 strippers...one great, one fair, one bad...maybe in the same ratio as the general population?
I remember one dancer was definitely horny all the time. Before and after the time she spent sleeping in bed. I have been wondering about something she said though. Can a girl have 3 orgasms in only 15 to 20 minutes? She claimed she did and I was wondering if she was lying. Probably just talk in my opinion. If not, that might explain a few things about her. When I hear nymphomaniac, I think of her now.
As a little side note, I remember I heard one model say before she had sex with a guy, she had to have control over his dick. She said she insisted on performing a BJ before he could have sex with her. Somehow I met a dancer who believed the same thing. I think she already had a SO, lucky guy.
Lol, I suddenly remember a stripper from many years ago, talking about what she did to get back on her cheating husband before their divorce. Then she tells me, I'm insisting on having sex first with a guy before any thought of marriage enters the picture. Sounded good to me. I think she was the same dancer who told me another dancer tried some shit on her. She told me she had a black belt in some martial arts. The other dancer never messed with her again. I start wondering if I find the crazy dancers or if they are typical. Maybe they are good in bed but don't tick them off.
I can only base it on MY past experiences, but I have to vote HELL yes! Are they better than average non-stripper women? I'd also vote "yes" to that, too.
Here's why it is true for me. I am a VERY visually oriented guy. It turns me on to see a pretty girl that really knows how to move in a way that she knows is sexually attractive. I know that most, if not all strippers practice moving in front of the mirror so they know what looks hot. A BJ is nice, but it is SO much better when a girl is giving you a BJ while trying to look hot doing it, rather than just sucking and licking. Does that make sense? Same way with sex... you can have a girl on top pounding away, or you can have a girl that is moving sensuously and doing things for the visual effect - even if she's playing it up, it's much better.
Perhaps its more than the fact that strippers know how to act hot - maybe it's the fact that they tend to be less inhibited. Either way, I'd chose dancer over "regular" woman.
I know there are "regular" women that will "perform" during sexual activity, too, but I've found that dancers are more in tune with the performance aspect that caters to my visual fetishes.
As perhaps a final comment on this, given my science and engineering background: I believe we need more data. I'm going to do my part. Can I count on you other guys? Perhaps we can reconvene this topic in 6 months.
If they stay awake long enough, they could be good.
OTC'd with one stripper and it seemed mechanical. Of course I later found out she was a drugie! Afterward, I learned to just fuck her in the club cheaply with no motel fee!
Right on, Doug. Well said. I don't see why it's so farfetched to find that a lot of what makes a stripper good at turning guys on and lap dancing also makes her good in bed. The two talents aren't identical (hehe), but there's more overlap than with any other calling I can think of.
As for my original question - are they good enough to warrant our obsession with wanting to fuck them? Of course not! Our obsession is wildly unrealistic, based upon a fantasy character who only exists in a strip club. What you get outside that setting is always different, although she may bring along the same performance instincts. And then, some guys only seem to be obsessed with the *idea* of banging a stripper, which I would think can't help matters when the deed is done. In fact, I have to wonder how much unreal expectations lead to an overreaction that strippers are nothing special.
As I was doing my morning surfing, on one of my fav sites (thedailycolumn.com) they rank the 50 hottest female recording artists. While browsing the list, complete with pics and some vids, one vid of Alicia Keys triggered a thought in my mind which I thought I should add to my earlier incoherent rambling.
I had previously mentioned that typically dancers know how to look hot. One of those techniques is facial expression. Though I've not had the pleasure to experience my ATF in bed (from the looks of it, I never will), but she has honed her skills of looking sexy to an exceptional level. A lot of her sexiness comes from her facial expressions. She can lift an eyebrow in such a way that causes blood to flow to a certain area of my body. A slightly opened smile, partially exposing her teeth, followed by a slight biting of her lower lip turns me on to no end. A flip of her hair, combined with her arching back can literally cause lumber to form so hard that it's downright painful. She is one sexy girl. How could she NOT be the ultimate in bed?!
Chandler: Of course turning the guy on is an important part of having sex. The issue to me would be weather the actual woman excites the guy or if he just wants to be with her because she is a stripper? She may be hot looking but if she can't deliver the goods how long will that guy remain turned on?
Yoda: After replying, I realized that's what you must have meant. I agree. Being excited by the fact that she's a stripper isn't enough to make the sex great.
Doug: Not to comment specifically on your ATF, but I've never thought girls who can look sexy were guaranteed to be great lays. It's just one indicator, and there's plenty more to it. To really know, there's no substitute for actually getting her in the sack.
Chandler: Yeah, that's right to an extent, I suppose. I guess my thinking is, if she is pretty and knows how to move seductively and act sexy, I am going to be so turned on that almost anything lacking in the talent and/or creativeness can be offset. But, as you pointed out, there's no substitute for actually getting her in the sack... I'm working on it, believe me!
If a dancer is dancing for the right reasons (not to pay for drugs, etc.) then she will develop a comfort with her sexuality and herself. Women who know they are sexy and who can pull it all off without feeling self-conscious and closed are hot in bed (and I'm not lesbian-just know from myself). I would vote that strippers are more likely to be good in bed than the non-stripper just because of that.
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I mean, the only one's I've fucked have been the freaky ones anyway, so not exactly a cross-section.
Plenty of them are lesbians though, so at least from the male perspective I'd guess they're not too fun in bed.
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So, intellectualism aside...the first time I ever got a blow job to completion (I wasted the first half of my life) was from a stripper, in my car, while I was driving to Vegas on a State highway, going 80 mph. I managed to stay on the road, just barely. That was mighty fine!
Are wives good in bed? Judging from my experience and that of those I know who are married, I'd say wives performances range from a 1 all the way up to a 10.
Why should strippers be any different?
Here's why it is true for me. I am a VERY visually oriented guy. It turns me on to see a pretty girl that really knows how to move in a way that she knows is sexually attractive. I know that most, if not all strippers practice moving in front of the mirror so they know what looks hot. A BJ is nice, but it is SO much better when a girl is giving you a BJ while trying to look hot doing it, rather than just sucking and licking. Does that make sense? Same way with sex... you can have a girl on top pounding away, or you can have a girl that is moving sensuously and doing things for the visual effect - even if she's playing it up, it's much better.
Perhaps its more than the fact that strippers know how to act hot - maybe it's the fact that they tend to be less inhibited. Either way, I'd chose dancer over "regular" woman.
I know there are "regular" women that will "perform" during sexual activity, too, but I've found that dancers are more in tune with the performance aspect that caters to my visual fetishes.
If they stay awake long enough, they could be good.
OTC'd with one stripper and it seemed mechanical. Of course I later found out she was a drugie! Afterward, I learned to just fuck her in the club cheaply with no motel fee!
As for my original question - are they good enough to warrant our obsession with wanting to fuck them? Of course not! Our obsession is wildly unrealistic, based upon a fantasy character who only exists in a strip club. What you get outside that setting is always different, although she may bring along the same performance instincts. And then, some guys only seem to be obsessed with the *idea* of banging a stripper, which I would think can't help matters when the deed is done. In fact, I have to wonder how much unreal expectations lead to an overreaction that strippers are nothing special.
I had previously mentioned that typically dancers know how to look hot. One of those techniques is facial expression. Though I've not had the pleasure to experience my ATF in bed (from the looks of it, I never will), but she has honed her skills of looking sexy to an exceptional level. A lot of her sexiness comes from her facial expressions. She can lift an eyebrow in such a way that causes blood to flow to a certain area of my body. A slightly opened smile, partially exposing her teeth, followed by a slight biting of her lower lip turns me on to no end. A flip of her hair, combined with her arching back can literally cause lumber to form so hard that it's downright painful. She is one sexy girl. How could she NOT be the ultimate in bed?!