OMG stripclubs might be done 😱

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patrickbateman
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https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/26/strip-clu…

If this is true then my favorite high mileage SC’s like Diamond Dolls and Playmates are done 😭 I’m praying 🧎🏻‍♂️ this won’t be the case in S Fla!!!

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Warrior15
5 years ago
They are considered bars, so they aren't going to open for a while. In the beginning, both the PLs and the girls will have a period of getting comfortable. My guess in Florida, they won't open until July or August. And yes, they will be very tame for a while. Probably until people stop worrying about the second wave. So it may be after the next flu season until the fun returns.
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Lone_Wolf
5 years ago
No doubt it will be fucked.

Imagine the army of Covid police needed to enforce all these new rules. They will not want to give up power.

Under his eye
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SteveSutton
5 years ago
I don't think clubs are done but
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SteveSutton
5 years ago
I don't think clubs are done but think it will take a while to get back to how it was before COVID. The lure of money will be big for some. Personally - and I've said this on other treads about this topic - I'm not sure I will be back till there's a vaccine or some type of a cure. Having a family I can't take the risk. And yes, it is higher risk than going to a restaurant or shopping because there is touching and close contact involved. My wife has been very forgiving of what I do in my personal time or on business travel, but she wouldn't forgive me bringing COVID home even though of course it would be nearly impossible to trace to one specific event once the world opens up again.
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TFP
5 years ago
If those rules are enforced then yeah, stripclubs are done.

But you gotta remember that a lot of clubs don't follow the rules anyway. If they did there wouldn't be dudes bragging about extras of any kind, anywhere. It's gonna depend on the club and the dancer what the experience will be.

I don't think the fun will be over at every club.
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wallanon
5 years ago
Is there a sleeper cell of panicky customers who just got activated?

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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
As Dr Fauci said a while back, it's up to the virus when the economy opens up - once the virus is not as big an issue is when SCs may get back to normal - the SC industry will just have to wait it out
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bdirect
5 years ago
every city has tons ofclubs closed before corina.......... the future does not look good
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
As a great philosopher once said - "the future belongs to the horny"
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mark94
5 years ago
This too shall pass, but not until we have a Vaccine.
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JamesSD
5 years ago
Strip clubs should exist just fine once there is a vaccine. The big question in a lot of regions is if they can survive since in many areas opening a new club is nearly impossible.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
As a great philosopher once said - "$ex sells"
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Bavarian
5 years ago
The only reason I go to a strip club is to see a favorite. I guess I’m going the OTC route if she is up for it.
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bdirect
5 years ago
i just read......the social distancing will be all summer long.....so that means air dances only for sure
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CJKent (Banned)
5 years ago
@patrickbateman

The Stripclubs Might Be Done for a while, don’t panic.

“The widespread use of penicillin, leading to a rapid decline in syphilis during the 1950s, is what launched the modern sexual era.”

“As penicillin drove down the cost and “consequences” of having risky sex, the population started having more of it.”

As soon as a good, reliable“Cure” or Vaccine for the Rona is available the business of sex will have a surge and we will see dramatic increases in all kinds of risky sexual behavior.

And some risk taking strippers and PL will still find a way to keep it going, one way or another.
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Stephanie4life
5 years ago
Clubs in my hometown were already restricted as hell.
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mark94
5 years ago
Economic desperation provides a thriving environment for strip clubs. One of the hardest hit cities coming out of this will be Las Vegas. It wouldn’t surprise me if they returned to their Sin City DNA. Amsterdam in the desert.
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bdirect
5 years ago
i agree.... vegas is done...it is 2008 and worst...no tourist at all......vegas is 100% driven by tourist industry.......and only way to get there is by a corona infected airplane.....no casinos= no jobs= no house payment.=30% drop in prices ..... lots of investor brought up empty condo's to rent out on AirBnB......they are screwed
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mark94
5 years ago
Blade Runner might provide of preview of Las Vegas’ future.
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mark94
5 years ago
Or, maybe, Mad Max!
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UKfan
5 years ago
It’s not looking good, even I was thinking that they would likely re open in late spring, but with no contact Lap dances. I would think lap dances will be available but it’ll be air dances only.

The best I can think of in terms of fun is to go watch the girls dance on stage for an hour or two and then get an escort after you leave the club. Basically go to the club to drink and party and have spa an escort to finish off the night.
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Player11
5 years ago
It’s a foregone conclusion. The future of that venue very uncertain. Much of infrastructure wb sold off. Until vaccine / cure sc are doa.

At this time question what you were spending worth it? Beyond lappers and budgeting your risking std, financial ruin, losing your family. Is it worth it?

Like Naval air you can’t be afraid of the water if your gonna fly jets. To me SC a thrill so if your still in your ok - what is your rank? Ensign / just lappers. LT JG - a sc vip or doing one itc or otc. LTC - both.
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Player11
5 years ago
Me - LTC am sc vip have done strippers both itc and otc.
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wallanon
5 years ago
Player11 has an article in the making there with the ranks. Or did someone do that one already?
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wallanon
5 years ago
And that emoji in the OP is creeping me out a little. It looks like that robot in Buck Rogers is about to take one down the gullet.
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amorgaudium
5 years ago
Good chance a lot of them close but no way they just go away entirely, too much $ to be made...
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boomer79
5 years ago
Unfortunately right now they need to be closed. I just hope they don't use this as an excuse to make it hard for them to reopen after this is over.
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skibum609
5 years ago
I can be done. Sex with my wife and swinging will have to do.
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Cashman1234
5 years ago
This will most likely thin the herd of strip clubs. Clubs with poor management and larger debt will fail.

When restrictions are imposed on clubbing - it will change the experience and certain customers will stop going.

I believe strip clubs will return. But there will be fewer clubs able to reopen.

The girls need the money - and some Simply can’t earn enough by doing cam shows - so they will be back.

Could there be a requirement to sign a release before getting private dances?
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lotsoffun201
5 years ago
Being a Las Vegas local this is what I see:

This town is through, we have a newly elected governor who is hinting he wants to extend the lockdown through June. Casinos are trying to figure out how they can even open with restrictions that will be imposed. Nobody is going to get on a plane from overseas or anywhere for that matter with the risk of catching something either real or perceived. Strip clubs will be the last thing to open, if ever allowed to again and even if they are, the control will be so tight, who wants to go? Dealers with masks and gloves, no more cocktail waitresses, no buffets, every other slot machine closed down (besides they will be screwed down so tight, who would be dumb enough to put money in one). Construction continues on a taxpayer funded stadium that may never be used. No more concerts, pool parties and the list goes on and on.

Fortunately I am considered an essential business so we remain open and are doing well for now but have seen our revenue decrease significantly. Our hospitals are like ghost towns,

There was an article here this past week indicating that COVID may have actually started both in NY as well as here during CES in January with 200K people from all over the world. People have been reporting suffering from symptoms after that show indicating this was here long before we knew.

The housing market here is tanking, the shootings are starting. Police have become more tyrannical than ever, speed traps set up on every freeway, yet our governor has ZERO plans to reopen our state and indicates it daily in his news conferences. The recall petitions are circulating now and high state taxes are coming. The Culinary Union is basically through. All show performers have been furloughed indefinitely. Some casinos have furloughed their staff indefinitely as well.

So no.... forget about Spearmint Rhino, Sapphire, Treasures, CH3, Hustler. They’re all done, and if by some miracle they do open, you’re better off at Walmart trying to make an arrangement with a cashier.

Rant over
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bman66
5 years ago
Michigan used to have some fun clubs. I think the clubs in the city of Detroit will be done since they were already on life support before Corona. The clubs in the suburbs of Detroit may survive, time will tell. I see how Vegas would take a total nose dive, that sucks! I enjoyed just going to Vegas not even the clubs.
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amorgaudium
5 years ago
Vegas will be back, maybe not this year but eventually everything will return to normal. Half the business, casinos, clubs everything could be list due to finances but not everyone. Some of it will still live on. Eventually these rules will be kifted., May just be longer then we all thought. I still have faith that this won't change the future forever. There will be restaurants, I will go to a baseball game or getting on an airplane again in my lifetime, I just can't see that all changing forever.
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Hank Moody
5 years ago
Vegas will be back but it’s going to be a long time. Social distancing doesn’t work in a casino. Can you pull the handle of a slot machine? Can you touch chops at the blackjack table? Not to mention getting on a plane to get there, which is easier to make safe before disinfecting the chips every time they move from one player to the dealer and then to a different player. That’s going to be a long road.
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skibum609
5 years ago
Strip clubs are for freedom loving people; they are done forever here.
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lotsoffun201
5 years ago
Oh, I forgot to include the brothels. No chance they will ever reopen in the foreseeable future. Weekly STD AND COVID checks? Doubtful, then have to screen clients? Dick checks and temperature checks too? They were a ripoff before so one can only imagine what they’d be like now.
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bdirect
5 years ago
lotsoffun201 glad you posted about vegas, it may favorite city in usa...... since you live there,,,,,you know the real story........ i cant believe how corona has turned the western world upside down........ crude oil is crashing again today and will go back under zero again......... even business that are open now are operating at a loss..........who knows how many years to get back to Jan 2020 again...... give us vegas updates
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lotsoffun201
5 years ago
@bdirect. I’ll be happy to give updates as soon as they are available. It saddens me to watch my city and state get choked out by this. Even though our mayor really blew it with that interview, she knows her city may never return.
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Lone_Wolf
5 years ago
@fun - the mayor was pillard but I didn't think she did that bad. She's just being realistic. I thought the feigned disgust from Cooper was pathetic. That dude is totally disconnected from the proloterit. Many are.
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lotsoffun201
5 years ago
Figuring that she is married to one of the most famous lawyers in American history, you think she would have learned something. Anderson Cooper’s overacting is worthy of a Razzie award I agree. He has a job, a fat paycheck, healthcare, pension, national notoriety. What about the waitress, bartender, guest room attendant, porter, dealer, store clerk etc who works here for an honest wage to support their family? Frankly he doesn’t think about that. He’s only concerned with sensationalizing.

The bottom line is people are in trouble here and she knows it. He could care less.
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Cashman1234
5 years ago
Cooper also takes it in the ass! He’s not going to a strip club.
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Hank Moody
5 years ago
That interview was a train wreck. Cooper was bad. LV mayor is an idiot. “I want everything open but I have no idea how to make it safe. The casinos will figure it out. And oh yeah, the casinos aren’t in my jurisdiction so my opinion carries no weight.”
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skibum609
5 years ago
Too bad Anderson Cooper doesn't get sick and die.
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623
5 years ago
As far as clubs opening, there will be too many unemployed beauties and near beauties who are unable to do very many other things so there will be a good crop of eager beavers. Then there will be a bunch of owners and investors who will want to tap that crop so I am pretty sure Las Vegas will find a way to get back to the glory days. I also live in Las Vegas and I see things a bit different than @lotsoffun, there are clubs here that have spent millions on renos and construction and they are not going to just walk away.

Our swing clubs, at least some of them, are still open but of course they are more under the radar. So I am pretty sure the jiggle joints will also find a way to operate.
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MalakingDog
5 years ago
Vegas is in trouble. They are at the mercy of the public. No way the number of tourists who visit the city will be anywhere near what they were in the past. Too many people will decide it's not worth the risks. Just one outbreak in a hotel/casino is all it will take for another chunk of tourists to decide to stay home
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lotsoffun201
5 years ago
I did hear something very interesting on talk radio this morning concerning potential lawsuits from this as well as in the future. They mentioned how legislation needs to be passed to prevent this. Of course the legislators are attorneys and in my opinion it will never happen. I figure 6 months down the road you will see class action suits all over the country
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Techman
5 years ago
The stock market does not think that stirp clubs are done, RIC Hospitality was up 6.8% today.
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Bavarian
5 years ago
So Texas will open restaurants for dine in at 25 percent capacity on Friday. Bars can’t open until Mid May at the earliest.

Social distancing is being enforced.

Really curious to know if strip clubs will be treated like bars and allowed to open when bars do. I just don’t see how lap dances will be allowed so there is really no point of going to a strip clubs at this moment.
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DeclineToState
5 years ago
Strip clubs might be done? I am not done with strip clubs. I like hot chicks and their bare boobies. But if masks were required by either dancers or customers, I would not go. If no masks, then I'd go to drink and watch and tip even if dances and rooms not available - not gonna get any socially distanced air dances though.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
As has been posted in the past, it seems opening new strip-clubs (more precisely getting the permit to open a new one), is next to impossible if not impossible - seems in most if not all areas the clubs that are there are sorta grandfathered in - it seems the only way to open a new club is to take over an existing one, or more precisely use an existing strip-club license - IDK how accurate my info is, mainly what others have posted in the past, but seems like that's the deal - thus if a club "physically" closes, it's kinda still "in existence" due to its license where another club operator can purchase it (or more likely lease the license, as it would make sense for someone fortunate enough to have a strip-club license it would make sense to hold onto it and even pass it down to their heirs and just lease to operator after operator over time) - thus w/ time, I don't see a significant drop in clubs (assuming my my info is correct); if some "go under", one would think others wanting to open a club would take the opportunity to use that license and open one.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
If dancers are able to get the all the unemployment benefits there are out there, then I don't think there would be a huge need for them to get back in the club ASAP - it remains to be seen but it may turn out dancers may not necessarily be as de$perate as many would think
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Heellover
5 years ago
Papi you are correct. Having lived in az for a long, long time clubs are zoned/grandfathered in. New ones don't really happen (probably because it's nearly impossible). I think I only saw it once in 25 plus years (it folded within a year, was a cool club in apache junction actually-they had some kind of jello wrestling once-I went more than a few times, but it was out in the middle of nowhere and too close to another club to survive) This was maybe 15 or so years ago.

Clubs are always changing names/ownership etc and some have changed multiple times. I think it's tough to get approval for the adult entertainment with alcohol designation but once you are approved it's tough to lose unless something awful happens (ie centerfolds).
I know Le Girls used to be all nude, but now has both nude and topless. And Christie's Tempe used to be all nude (a long time ago), but now is topless with alcohol. So they were already adult businesses and just gained their alcohol license. But I'm sure a ton of rules and requirements would need to be met (and money) to even attempt to start an adult (with dancers) establishment. But existing ones seem to change hands quite frequently.
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Heellover
5 years ago
But I do think dancers want to get back to work. 600-800 a week isn't a lot of money to most of them probably. They are used to making that in a weekend or more in a good night. But a lot of them are also in "spend what you make" mode, ie fancy cars, long expensive trips, jewelry, legal problems and boyfriends that are jerks. Not saying all of them, but it's amazing how many have crazy problems. And I am on the dancers side, they are beautiful women that is the reason a lot of income is generated. So not being mean by stating the above, but do know it definitely exists (a lot, not all for sure though)
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Heellover
5 years ago
And yes I am aware an expensive trip can't really be done right now. But everything else I listed still applies (and online shopping as well)
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
w.r.t. unemployment, the additional $600/wk federal benefit on top of normal state benefits, means many people can get close to $1k/wk (depending on the state's benefits), usually tax-free AFAIK; and if she has a live-in S.O. , perhaps the income can be doubled; all while staying at home - there are a fair-amount of "if's" in my comments but seems fairly-doable.
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BabyDoc
5 years ago
In order to collect unemployment the recipient must be actively seeking employment. If offered employment (particularly their previous job) and they decline the job offer, unemployment benefits STOP!
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MalakingDog
5 years ago
depending on where you live, my guess would be that only the top tier dancers make that kind of money. most clubs are filled 70% with less attractive or overweight dancers who weren't making near 1k/wk after house rent and tip outs. az and lv may be the exception in regards to unattractive % of dancers. while it's true that looks are subjective and not one size fits all... demand for a certain look prevails
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Heellover
5 years ago
Malakingdog. Yes you are correct . I guess I was thinking about the main (steady that have a lot of established "regulars") dancers at the club I go to. They are the top earners. I kind of forgot that there are so many dancers that only dance for a little while because they aren't making a lot of money (especially in the summer months in az). And we also have a lot of lower end clubs where I'm sure the dancers weren't making great money (at least compared to what I posted). And yes looks matter relative to the $$$ made.
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MalakingDog
5 years ago
CARES act
The job search requirement is optional, so if you answer “no.” it won't affect your benefits.
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