I would vote for the Green Party candidate. I don't believe we should be coerced into the anyone but Trump camp. Our problems are systemic and both parties perpetuate said system.
If it's not Sanders or Yang I'll vote Green. I'm not playing my part in legitimating the problem.
Maybe the US needs to hit rock bottom before we wake up.
===> "Basically if it’s Trump v Bloomberg it’ll be Idiots like Icee that re-elected Trump
Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water"
It'll most likely be blacks who don't want a controlling a-hole who thinks it's ok to assault their teenage boys and regulate their soda intake, among many other things. Bloomberg was also a great proponent of broken windows policing, which again targets predominantly poor minorities.
Shit, between his economic outreach with "Opportunity Zones" and his support for school choice, Trump might actually pull an unusually high percentage of black votes if authoritarian Wall Street Mike is the alternative. Anything over 20% pretty much guarantees a Republican victory.
^25, your problem is that you can't distinguish between topical disagreements and personal attacks. So you engage in the latter when you get annoyed by the former, often on a random basis across multiple threads.
And you just did the dame above to Icey, who you called an "idiot" just because he doesn't want a candidate like Bloomberg spoon fed to him. Yet he is far from alone in sharing that view. Heck, Trump is actually courting blacks right now because he thinks that he may have a chance given who the Dems are currently fielding and he may be right, like he was with his belief that he could get union workers and flip Michigan.
The new crop of Dems are getting so out of touch with their core constituencies that almost all of them are fair game, except perhaps for Socialists and climate change activists. Bloomberg is perhaps better than most, but he makes Trump look like a member of the Rainbow Coalition with his enforcement policies while serving as NYC Mayor and Trump only needs to peel off an extra 10% of the black vote to make himself impossible to beat.
^ Really that’s ludicrous from Icee I don’t expect anything intelligent but you keep crying about me trolling just because I have an opinion that is different from your own I don’t really give a fuck one way or another but you really need to stop being such a unaware dick and think that your opinion is any more than the shit of the moment not that you are some fucking sage and we need to hang on your every word like god himself came down from the mountain to deliver us your wisdom.
===> "I don’t expect anything intelligent but you keep crying about me trolling just because I have an opinion that is different from your own"
Dude, you were called a troll because you behaved like one. If you don't like the label, then refrain from popping into topical threads with random off-topic shots. You might also consider exercising a little emotional control and refraining from calling people like Icey names just because he doesn't share your view, but baby steps and all that. ;)
As far as the rest, I'm just another dude with an opinion, albeit sometimes very directly worded. You're too hypersensitive, which leads you to melting down like this and then behaving like your trolling is somehow justified. Sorry if that last point was too "unaware" but there it is.
Wow RickiBoi calling me hypersensitive lol wow just wow
And Icee telling anyone about lack of logic there must have been some weird space time continuum
Or Is today stupid day at the circus looks like two clowns escaped
Op: that is probably statistically true and it is almost def statistically true in nyc, which was likely the context. Not a tactful thing to say but probably not wrong either.
Bloomberg inherited stop and frisk from giuliani, same with the broken windows approach. We already see where nyc is headed without it and coupled with the new no bail system in ny state the slide backwards looks to be swift.
In 1990 nyc had 3000 murders with almost a million fewer residents than now. Theyve been hovering around 500 a year for about the last decade. With the new bail reform and anti-police climate thats been tolerated and some would say supported by de blasio, crime is already rising.... just in time for bloomberg to say “i told you so” at the summer convention. Gotta look at the big picture, not a soundbite. Whats unfolding in nyc today, helps bloomberg and the arguments for tough on crime policing.
^
I don't like anything about Bloomberg but I have to agree Assman is right. I don't like heavy handed police policies either and see us heading towards a police state but again admit that something has to be done to subdue violent crime and make our streets safer for everyone. There aren't any easy answers as to finding a balance that controls crime yet allows us to enjoy our basic freedoms.
Not a big distinction between Trump and Bloomberg, difference is Trump didn’t want Bloomberg in the race you don’t need to be a fan of Bloomberg to know Trump was one of his biggest supporters during the time period when Bloomberg was Mayor of NYC.
Oh yeah icee what are people saying about me dumb ass, no that’s just you and RickiBoi go back to clown college or something would you please. Go and run a train on one those mountain goats you post pictures of. You ask guys to rate them then call them judgemental when they do what you ask
This thread seems to have moved way outside of the original premise (on tuscl? Never!) but I came across the actual quote from Bloomberg:
“Ninety-five percent of your murders - murderers and murder victims - fit one MO. You can just take the description and xerox it and pass it out to all the cops. They are male, minorities, 16-25. That’s true in NY, that’s true in virtually every city.”
By including murder victims, the quote is much less likely to make people’s blood boil. Doesn’t change the fact that the DeBlasio report concluded stop and frisk was being used unconstitutionally (and may have been inherently unconstitutional) but that goes pretty far down the rabbit hole from this thread. Solving difficult constitutional questions is better left to people who aren’t seeking the best way to jizz in their pants (including myself).
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Michael Bloomberg was a shitty NYC governor. Now, he will be stealing votes from Trump, dividing the Republican Party.
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Bloomberg has a very racist history. He basically used NYPD as a militarization force for minority neighborhoods
Just curious Icey, how would you vote if it was Trump v. Bloomberg?
If it's not Sanders or Yang I'll vote Green. I'm not playing my part in legitimating the problem.
Maybe the US needs to hit rock bottom before we wake up.
Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water
Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water"
It'll most likely be blacks who don't want a controlling a-hole who thinks it's ok to assault their teenage boys and regulate their soda intake, among many other things. Bloomberg was also a great proponent of broken windows policing, which again targets predominantly poor minorities.
Shit, between his economic outreach with "Opportunity Zones" and his support for school choice, Trump might actually pull an unusually high percentage of black votes if authoritarian Wall Street Mike is the alternative. Anything over 20% pretty much guarantees a Republican victory.
And you just did the dame above to Icey, who you called an "idiot" just because he doesn't want a candidate like Bloomberg spoon fed to him. Yet he is far from alone in sharing that view. Heck, Trump is actually courting blacks right now because he thinks that he may have a chance given who the Dems are currently fielding and he may be right, like he was with his belief that he could get union workers and flip Michigan.
The new crop of Dems are getting so out of touch with their core constituencies that almost all of them are fair game, except perhaps for Socialists and climate change activists. Bloomberg is perhaps better than most, but he makes Trump look like a member of the Rainbow Coalition with his enforcement policies while serving as NYC Mayor and Trump only needs to peel off an extra 10% of the black vote to make himself impossible to beat.
The DNC is moving too far to the right and Sanders is no socialist. He's just a pre Clinton era Democrat
Dude, you were called a troll because you behaved like one. If you don't like the label, then refrain from popping into topical threads with random off-topic shots. You might also consider exercising a little emotional control and refraining from calling people like Icey names just because he doesn't share your view, but baby steps and all that. ;)
As far as the rest, I'm just another dude with an opinion, albeit sometimes very directly worded. You're too hypersensitive, which leads you to melting down like this and then behaving like your trolling is somehow justified. Sorry if that last point was too "unaware" but there it is.
And Icee telling anyone about lack of logic there must have been some weird space time continuum
Or Is today stupid day at the circus looks like two clowns escaped
Yes he did. It's not a good look.
Bloomberg inherited stop and frisk from giuliani, same with the broken windows approach. We already see where nyc is headed without it and coupled with the new no bail system in ny state the slide backwards looks to be swift.
In 1990 nyc had 3000 murders with almost a million fewer residents than now. Theyve been hovering around 500 a year for about the last decade. With the new bail reform and anti-police climate thats been tolerated and some would say supported by de blasio, crime is already rising.... just in time for bloomberg to say “i told you so” at the summer convention. Gotta look at the big picture, not a soundbite. Whats unfolding in nyc today, helps bloomberg and the arguments for tough on crime policing.
I don't like anything about Bloomberg but I have to agree Assman is right. I don't like heavy handed police policies either and see us heading towards a police state but again admit that something has to be done to subdue violent crime and make our streets safer for everyone. There aren't any easy answers as to finding a balance that controls crime yet allows us to enjoy our basic freedoms.
Also keep in mind that public defenders coerceclients into plea deals and admissions of guilt to make their jobs easier.
Would you tolerate the same police tactics if they targeted you?
Oh yeah icee what are people saying about me dumb ass, no that’s just you and RickiBoi go back to clown college or something would you please. Go and run a train on one those mountain goats you post pictures of. You ask guys to rate them then call them judgemental when they do what you ask
“Ninety-five percent of your murders - murderers and murder victims - fit one MO. You can just take the description and xerox it and pass it out to all the cops. They are male, minorities, 16-25. That’s true in NY, that’s true in virtually every city.”
By including murder victims, the quote is much less likely to make people’s blood boil. Doesn’t change the fact that the DeBlasio report concluded stop and frisk was being used unconstitutionally (and may have been inherently unconstitutional) but that goes pretty far down the rabbit hole from this thread. Solving difficult constitutional questions is better left to people who aren’t seeking the best way to jizz in their pants (including myself).
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