Connecting with Dancers

It seems the best-way to get personalized attention is to be a regular - but probably a bit harder to be a regular if you're going to clubs all over the place and can't see the dancers regularly (although not impossible).

Also - hitting the club at peak times (Fr/Sat eve) often works against getting personalized attention - some on here adhere to hitting the club at its slowest vs most-busy - when the club if full of PLs, most dancers often go into a frenzy and wanna move from a custy as soon as she's gotten his $$$ to go hit all the other available target$ - if there are few other custies, chances are higher she'll stick to a particular custy and hope to get what she can from him.

Some on here have also espoused the virtues of buying dancers drinks and even food in the club as a way to spend some time together and make a connection - others will tip her periodically while she sits and drinks w/ you - in the end she needs to somehow see you as a worthwhile inve$tment either implicitly or explicitly.

I'm not the type to look to make connections w/ dancers although I can see the value in it (I'm a variety-guy and wanna move on to someone else once I've gotten what I've gotten) - but there are plenty of PLs on here that do look to make connections w/ specific girls and have more personal-experience.

If you are trying to get dancers to OTC with you best and easiest way is buy a few drinks for dancers and go clubbing during off peak hours, girls that work slower shifts are most receptive to outsourcing and providing you with a nice time
Don’t be cheap always remember a few bucks goes a long way.

Its important for dancers to know you aren't LE before making an offer. But, since you travel, you aren't a familiar face.

I would recommend you buy a drink for the dancer, and chat with her. Find out what is on her ITC menu. If FS or Oral is on the menu, ask her if she ever works outside the club.

Keep in mind, you may not get many offers for same night service - as the dancer is already at the club and has to deal with pay outs. So, unless you can chat up dancers like Juice, this may take more than a front room chat.

" prefer OTC with a dancer than someone who just does escorting"

Dancers are better looking and more personable. But in my view that fact that you met each other in a f2f non-committal situation is what makes all the difference.

SJG

Being a regular and spending money are the best way to "connect" with them. If you're just looking for a night's fun, then just be prepared to pony up some cash.

The only connection I want with a stripper is about 7 inches worth.

It's different if you're a regular...

If not, demonstrate that you're (a) not a cop, and (b) willing to spend money. Fortunately, you can usually take care of both items during a VIP in the club. Also, don't be creepy.

With those taken care of, just ask for OTC.

After that, it's her decision.

I believe Cashman and Rickdugan have a direct approach which is also respectful. Therefore cut through the chase better than rest of us.

I have tried the direct approach but does not work for me.
The ones who accept OTC are 5-7.
And 7+ mostly say no with exceptions here and there.
So back to - spending a few visits gets me OTC with 7+
This obviously is not gonna work for travelers - but if you travel to a few spots frequently - you can accumulate the requisite "chase time" in each city and club.

Every upright TUSCLer deserves OTC sex with a high energy dancer.

^^^ CMI is on point

Look, as someone who has picked up a lot of strange on the road, I'll say that the basic principles are pretty simple: (1) Go when the competing ITC money is light; (2) don't be stingy ITC with drinks and tips; (3) be cool; (4) don't look like a bum (especially if you're telling her that you're in town for work) and (5) have a decent (and preferably close by) hotel to name when she asks you where you're staying. This stuff will at least help you catch the lowest hanging fruit, i.e., those girls inclined to do OTC as a matter of course.

What can't be taught are things like the ability to build rapport or how to pick up on body language, If you're awkward with women in normal settings, I'd have to imagine that trying to connect with them cold in a road club could be challenging.

Over the years I've developed a few additional approaches that seem to help me with girls who are on the fence. But with the increasingly mixed participation on this site, I'm starting to get more cautious about tipping my hand too much and becoming too easy to identify.

===> "I believe Cashman and Rickdugan have a direct approach which is also respectful. "

The key difference being that Cash is targeting girls who are fucking and sucking ITC. I target girls who specifically do not do that stuff in the club.

I'm not sure if "respectful" is the exact word I'd use for my approach. Friendly and reasonably gracious for sure. Right or wrong, I guess I always see images of a fawning sissy when I read that word in the context of a strip club customer. Keep in mind where these girls come from and what they likely go home to at night. when you're trying to build enough rapport with a dancer who doesn't know you to get her comfy enough to do same night OTC, a little grit can go a long way.

^ I'd use fawning sissy for someone who agrees to OTC based on a vague promise of "fun time" when in fact he is expecting FS/BJ.
Respectful is used to differeniate away from hypocrites who who want P2P sex but view the providers as sluts and low lifes.

@Rick > I target girls who specifically do not do that stuff in the club.<
I defy you to really know who’s doing what in the club you really have no idea that’s just your ego talking to you.

@heaving, don't be silly. Guys who treat strippers with respect *are* fawning sissies. It's a well known fact.Every *real* man knows that...

Definition of "respect":
(1) a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
(2) due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others.

@gmd/heaving: Sorry boys, but I can't say that deep admiration is something I feel for strippers and my regard for their feelings and wishes are also somewhat limited. I treat them with all due courtesy, but that's as far as it goes. I save the deeper stuff for those who have earned it by being a loving member of my family or having some meaningful impact on this world. You might see a lesson worth taking from that gmd.

@25: Nobody can be 100% positive, but it sure helps when one is picking up girls from clubs where heavy duty extras aren't allowed. Remember not all of us club in places like you're neck of the woods, Detroit or N. Atlanta. I won't take a girl out of a club where ITC fucking and sucking is common. Not an ego thing - just a preference.

^ Well heaving you did already admit to being a fawning sissy. Everything else just becomes additional evidentiary support. ;)

How would a fawning sissy really know how much of his admiration/gratitude is a separate character trait vs. a part of the same dysfunction that makes him a fawning sissy in the first place? Idk heaving but it sounds like you're trying too hard to distinguish the indistinguishable. ;)

*Due* regard, rick. "Due" begin the operative adjective there.