How do I negotiate with a dancer?

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Nixur68
Texas
Hey all,

As the title states - how do I negotiate with a dancer? Yes, I know this is a little vague but I want to focus on “negotiating” overall. That can be from simply talking at the bar, dances or maybe outside the club.

This might just be me but I grew up in the Midwest so by default I’m non-confrontational and it seems rude back and forth with a working girl. I know that it isn’t but part of my subconscious is holding me back!

Or am I overthinking it? Do you guys just say “I’d like X, Y and Z for $Dollars?” What does a real conversation look like with a dancer in detail without you being too cheap?

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nicespice
5 years ago
Most of the advice is going to amount to “don’t be a pussy and don’t let a girl push you around”

Personally, I advise greasing the bouncer and stroking the manager. Show your dominance. If her bosses are deferring to your sexual prowess—then she will know that she needs to as well 😁
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Mate27
5 years ago
Good question. I usually let them bring up the topic and push the momentum from there, knowing there’s some interest.
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etsutwigg222
5 years ago
Remember this is a business transaction. You want this done, so give me a quote.
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Nixur68
5 years ago
Making this a “business transaction” sounds robotic and soulless as hell. I mean I’m not getting married but there’s a still another person here.
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twentyfive
5 years ago
“don’t be a pussy and don’t let a girl push you around”

Yeah blah, that's goddamn good advice right there
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Nixur68
5 years ago
That’s in way is too unspecific?

I guess, if I’m a dancer and I say I want $1,000 what would you say back?
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twentyfive
5 years ago
^ Are you sure that's enough cause I have more LOL
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pistola
5 years ago
guess, if I’m a dancer and I say I want $1,000 what would you say back?
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‘Seems a little much. I mean you’re so damn sexy I may not last two minutes, That’s like $500 per minute.’ Start there.

This isn’t a NASA scientist you’re haggling with...
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Nixur68
5 years ago
Ah hah

I like your angle pistola, that helps.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
Girl "$400"
You "$150"
Girl *laughs at you* "What's your budget?"
You "It's $___."

Or just tell her you're not willing to go over $___. " Look, I want _____. My budget is $___, and I refuse to spend over $___." Base it off of what you've been quoted from others though.

The above, first, negotiation would be hilarious and you would indeed be laughed at at a high end place. See my public review regarding Flight Club as an example as to how and why girls set their service fees at the amounts they do.
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elmer
5 years ago
Waffle, I find this usually works.

I ask pls leave me enough for an Uber
https://tuscl.net/photos/5dfd847857118
Sometimes I walk home
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BocaOnt2019
5 years ago
I am a big fan of organic interaction / discussion. I also find many dancers will get to the point quickly, either about dances or extras, if they are looking. So let them start the discussion, and go from there. You can certainly hint & confirm interest, but allow them to suggest/open the 'negotiations'. Not to mention looking too eager is never a good starting point.

What Wiffle Waffle said about "My budget is $___, and I refuse to spend over $___." definitely is a good idea. Saying I am interested but I feel X is about my limit rather than Y is a respectful negotiating tactic and if the dancer is looking for the sure $ they will likely be willing to accommodate or meet in the middle.
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rickdugan
5 years ago
@Relkin: If I only did OTC with girls who opened the negotiations I'd have missed out on a lot of great OTC with low volume girls and be forever condemned to only sample the most brazen high volume ones. No bueno.
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rickdugan
5 years ago
@Nixur: Exactly what you say is less important than how you say it. The more relaxed you are, the less likely you are to come across as desperate or confrontational. From there, just know what's reasonable for your area, which you can use in your discussion, and be OK with cutting her loose if you can't find common ground. It's not personal and not the end of the world if she wants more than you're willing to spend.
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Tetradon
5 years ago
Don't negotiate with a boner.
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Huntsman
5 years ago
I agree with the idea of learning your area for average pricing as well as being relaxed and straight forward with what you want. I’d add to be willing to walk away calmly and with no hard feelings. She’s been asked before. If she is down for what you want and you are being fair and decent about it, you either come to an agreement or look for another gal.

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doctorevil
5 years ago
“Don't negotiate with a boner.”

Good advice in theory, but why would you negotiate with a dancer that doesn’t give you a boner?
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
Strip clubs are about having fun and enjoying oneself and enjoying T&A - it's understandable not to want it see it as business, but it really is especially when one is talking about big/bigger VIP/OTC $$$.

You can best believe that is how the dancers see it (business), w/ rare-exceptions - most have no-qualms about asking for what they want - when it comes to business, it's best to be direct so both parties get what they want/expect - in the end, you are just a customer; dancers don't see you as a potential person to date to where you as a custy "have to be careful about what you say as to not screw it up" - trying to come to terms, or inquire, with a dancer w.r.t. services and prices is not some kinda "upfront" or "being disrespectful" - it's a fucking titty-bar with naked girls getting groped, not fucking Toastmasters - seems too-many times PLs operate in civvy-mode in the club where as most dancers are operating in busine$$-mode - if a dancer is not shy about telling you want she want$, then why should you be shy about telling her about what you want, other than you are seeing strip-clubs thru "dating goggles" - more-often-than-not, one gets what they want in life by asking, vs hoping it falls on their lap - asking for what you want is not being rude - the surest way to often get pennies-on-the-dollar/low-ROI in strip-clubs is by not speaking up and letting the dancers dictate the interaction - not speaking up makes things harder for the PL along with a higher failure rate of overpaying and getting under-delivered.
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Nixur68
5 years ago
I get what your saying Papi but I’ve got to communicate it in a way that is appropriate.

It might be business but it’s personal too. I don’t want to fuck a robot.
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Nixur68
5 years ago
@Relkin - every time a dancer is straight up with, that’s fine. However, in experience that does generally lead to a good time but it’s sometimes just “robotic” sex.

I mean... I’m not trying to marry, date or fall in love with these girls but I’m not trying to haves boring starfish sex. If anything, the experiences I’ve had in some of the higher end brothels in Europe is what I’m looking for... Yea, it’s p4p but it didn’t seem completely soulless.
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doctorevil
5 years ago
What's "appropriate" inside a strip club is very different from what's "appropriate" outside a strip club.
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BocaOnt2019
5 years ago
@rickdugan: Obviously different tactics will work for different people. The OP said he was non-confrontational - hence the suggestion that let them start off the negotiations. However absolutely, if one wishes to take a more direct approach and are comfortable doing so, that would work too . Also obviously depends on the club and the frequency of extras.

@Nixur68: Quite agree - but you can hopefully, with a bit of experience, usually get an idea of how interested the dancer is in the idea - and how that will play out.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
"... How Do I Negotiate With A Dancer ..."

Maybe we need the equivalent of a PL-Ebay
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txgolfer
5 years ago
What are you negotiating?

Are you wanting to get 4 dances for the price of 3?

Forget it - you came in the club that's the price of the dances.

Are you negotiating a BJ or FS in a private area?

Yes you should define. If that involves negotiation - so be it. My perspective is to be straight forward in what I am willing to pay. Once you get there - you have lost any ability to discuss $.

If she is not willing to discuss specifics in advance - You are probably not going to get what you were hoping for.
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herbtcat
5 years ago
How do you negotiate with a dancer?

The same way a musician get's to Carnegie Hall...

"Practice, man. Practice!"
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Nidan111
5 years ago
My method..... I go in with what I am willing to spend. I find the girl that I am willing to spend it on. She and I start conversation that is mutually fun. She asks if I want a dance. I tell her I only do VIP. Usually there are 15 minute blocks, 30 minute blocks, 60 minute blocks. I tell her that we start with 15 minutes. If I like her “style”, then we go from there. I always let her know that I am willing to spend. How much I spend depends on my satisfaction with her “skills”.

Works for me.
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Tiredtraveler
5 years ago
One unbreakable rule is:
NEVER bring a credit card of ATM card into the club.
other rules include always use cash and only bring as much cash as you intend to spend.
If you need more cash leave the club
Never drink to excess unless you like being ripped off
When you meet up with the "hottest girl ever" remember rule number one and that she is only interested in you until your cash runs out.
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max_starr
5 years ago
My negotiating sucks but has improved...I hate the clubs where you have to prepay for dances....They ask me how many dances ahead of time...What? I used to let girls dance on me for like 12-15 songs and then pay them...Or on some occasions I've let them dance a couple hours lol.

Ok so at those prepay places I've found I actually buy 3-5 dances...The last place she gave me 5 dances anyway and I just tipped her more. I think I only spent $150 at the club I was at. I had over 2K in my wallet....(shhhh)....but it wasn't all spendable....I have to keep cash on had for bitcoin exchanges and sometimes more nearby...
But I agree with the others...I have only used my CC like 1x in my life at SC....debit card like once or twice...
The other several hundred times its cash only...
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etsutwigg222
5 years ago
Tell her what your looking for and how much your paying. It is a strip club, not the streets. Or just hang a couple of $100 from your open fly !!!!
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wallanon
5 years ago
If it comes to negotiating, I always start low. Sometimes a dancer is right at her goal for the day and she's ready to party.
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boomer79
5 years ago
You need to know what is reasonable. Start low but at a realistic price. If you go too low you may come off as a waste of time or she might take it as an insult. Be prepared for a counter offer. The other way to do it is to say you have a certain amount to spend and you set a take it or leave it price. That leads to yes or no but probably not a negotiation.
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notzuckerberg
5 years ago
Don’t beat around the bush. Negotiating isn’t personal, so don’t let it be. We all don’t want a “robot”, but you have to be honest with yourself about what you are paying for. This is a person who, more than likely, doesn’t know you and is trying to earn a living. Don’t expect intimacy or a porn scenario all the time.

Flirting, for me, goes a long way. Not acting desperate is probably the biggest way to get what you want. Be willing to say “No, I’m good, but I appreciate it”. You’re going to strike out from time to time, and that’s okay. Cut your losses and save that money for another time/club.
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Icey
5 years ago
Negotiating with a hooker you mean. Its kinda pathetic to do so.


I really want a blowjob but can I get a discount 🤣🤣🤣
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stripperlover777
a year ago
I Just B Cool, Talk Casually With Mi Dancer & Let Things Come Natural. Don't B Aggressive, Talk With Your Dancer On The Side, Get Somethin' To Eat, Chill & B Up For Some Gent Style Conversation Before Going To Lap Dance/VIP.
It's Safer To Know The Dancer 1st So You Know She Will Like You & She Will Give You What U Want. B Sure To Tip Her Really Good Even If Your Just Sitting & Talkin' As Long As You Think It's Worth It (Quality + Time). Watch The Stage Dances, Style, Attitude & Impression. All These Can B Deciding Factors In Judgement. ✔️ 💲 👄 👽
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