OT: New Drivers Licenses in my state
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Was looking online at my state's (Florida) motor vehicles website and I saw that starting May 19 2019, new drivers licenses would no longer have the magnetic strip on the back - I assume this makes them non-scannable at strip-clubs, unless they can be scanned some other way (optical? - although the website did not mention anything about how they could be scannable in the future) - perhaps your state may have adopted a similar thing.
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"... Beginning May 2019, the department began issuing modified credentials removing the magnetic strip on the back of the card, adding a tactile security feature to the front and changing some of the data layout ..."
I didn't even know there was a stripe on the back. When I get a drivers license, I put it in my wallet and if I ever take it out, I never look at it.
Now I have to go look! :)
https://www.flhsmv.gov/driver-licenses-i…
You wrote: “I have no clue if a forger could duplicate a license well enough to pass this scan or not...”
Google says it takes from 3 to 6 months from the time the government starts issuing new identity cards (drivers license, passport, etc) to have the forgeries on the streets, and some at capable to pass as authentic in all the places.
I am sure it is possible with all the information available in the inter webs, and a demand big enough to make it happen.
my license.
Only one club ever asked for an ID at all, Cheetah in Hallandale Beach. I just said, nope and left. Now maybe back in my early clubbing days (50 years ago) I was asked, but I don't recall being asked.
At Monroes, the guy didn't seem confused by the global entry card. I'm pretty sure it would have scanned just fine if I let him, but I didn't. It's not the same kind of barcode/pdfwhatever, but I'd bet if the device has an optical scanner it'll handle both.
Either way, I'm with 25 on this one. I encourage folks to push back on the practice. At least until there are penalties for misuse of that information, including negligence for letting it get leaked.
None of them checked to ensure that it was a "valid" license really. They checked that the data was "well formed" which basically means they didn't just try to change the name on someone else barcode or put gibberish in there or something. But it could have "Hugh G. Rection" as a the name. One of them sold a model that did validate that the barcode matched the rest "So a minor couldn't just change their age on the readable text" but that was an upgrade not a standard feature. They all offered ban-lists and demographics though. Those were the two biggest selling points. The little green light would be red if the person had been marked as banned at another place.
in all honesty, license scanning doesn't bother me as much as it does some. Visiting a strip club is not illegal and I struggle to see why or how anyone could first obtain copies of the scans and then publish them somewhere. There just isn't any upside to someone misusing the information. Cameras in a back room however...
I tell you what *does* bother me: I've had SBs tell me that fake IDs are readily available and they scan just fine in bars and restaurants. So the threat of an underage SB is always there and checking their ID or having a restaurant card them isn't foolproof. One of my 21-yr-old SBs told me that she started sugaring at age 17.
What I do have concerns about is everything on my license being recorded in a database with security controls that range from non-existent to piss-poor. I'm not going to get into the details, but I've personally experienced significant issues resulting from identity theft stemming from drivers license misuse. I also know a database containing license images and metadata has significant value, which is enough to tell me I don't want to be in that db.
It's not just strip clubs I won't patronize for that reason. I won't let a lot of places have it.
Don't get me wrong, I hate all of this as much as 25 does, but I have to pick my battles. It's hard to even get money out of my bank now with a DL alone, the bank also wants me to put in my ATM pin or provide a cell phone verification code when I cash a check.
These folks target based on easily stolen information and the more that’s out there the easier it is for these knuckleheads to get.
They got nothing from me, and my nephew is fine, never been arrested but there’s tons of scams and schemes out there so be wary.
"So if I get a small chance to push back I will take it, I’m never going to allow any business that wants my business to scan my license it’s just my opinion."
Couldn't agree more. Seems there is a very large case of this "ID/regulation" BS happening in Virginia and it might explode.