Tj visit! Does it fulfill fantasies? At what price?

When it comes to threesomes it is important to choose wisely. I have found that if the girls are already friends and comfortable with each other, then the session is more rewarding for you. If you simply pick two random hotties and tell them they are both going with you, they will but your session will be basically you doing each one individually while the other watches or surfs on her cell phone.

In the passed I have been with Lucy and her friend whose name was unpronounceable to me. They approached me with the offer of $140 total for the two of them. We went upstairs and had a great time. I have also been offered by Danahy for she and her friend to come to my room but have yet to be able to coordinate our schedules.

Regardless of the fantasy, you will probably find a willing participant for the right price. Simply be upfront with the girls in the bar prior to going upstairs. If it is not their thing, politely excuse yourself and move on to the next. Someone will be up for your particular kink. Regarding multiple hours with the girls, I personally session for 1 to 2 hours when I go up. I always have a private room and only one time has somebody knocked on my door looking for their bar girl. If you wish to session with a girl for more than two hours it is doable but you may need to wait until the end of her shift.

Tj is a drug. The zona norte will make us clubs worthless to you

^^^^^ What, you don't like girls who don't kiss to be selling you ejaculation dances?

SJG

HK is the club to go for hotties, and Adelita and Chicago are a few feet away and safe to walk to. However, in Jan it's a ghost town. You better wait til Mar to see all the 10s & 9s.

Anyone try out Playboy Bar or El Fracaso?

SJG

^^^^because although you live just a $59 flight away, you'll never get to try those places for yourself, right?

^^^^^ TFP, my f2f life is private. And it is protected.

F2f you could not do this because only someone who is suicidal would ever challenge the privacy of my f2f life.

SJG

i’ve have fantasies experienced a few times in tj. that is what keeps me coming back. and to have those times at a more reasonable cost is nice too.

:) :) :)

SJG

From reading reviews most guys seem to do the 30-minute thing and pay the girl b/w $80 and $100 for 30-minutes (I assume most girls would accept $120 to $140 for an hour?) - and unless you rent your own room for the day/night, then you'd probably have to pay 2x the room-rate if you want the girl for an hour - I've also read that at times if a girl takes too long to come back to the club that they'll send a staff person up to get her (or the club may force you to pay $$$ to keep her longer like forcing you to buy a bucket of beer or something).

From reading reviews, TJ seems more like a fuck assembly-line where the girls are looking for volume and getting as many guys arriba as possible - doesn't seem the type of place to get personalized treatment especially if you don't already have a rapport/history with the girl - also, they barely speak English beyond a few phrases so trying to communicate particular fetishes may not be easy especially if you don't have a history w/ her.

Some TJ vets that hit the area often seem to develop a rapport w/ a particular girl to where they may see them outside of working hours and that would be a way to more easily get personalized service.

Below is a pretty-informative article about TJ written a while back:

tuscl.net

On Escorts of Mexico they said that Mexicali is more "up close and personal", which I take to mean more extended and TLN sessions.

But they were also adamant that you could do TJ TLN's, even with street girls. And then those hotels, obviously for TLN.

And then guys posting that girls give them FREE TLN's.

I would not do that, pay the girl to show respect.

But just like in the US, chumps buy dances, in TJ, Chumps buy arriba, but they do it in such a way that they are not getting under the girl's skin. They are not womanizers, they are chumps.

Guys post that BG's won't go outside of the zona, and talk about the idea as stupid. BUt then they are posting about how much better it is to take their girl outside of the zona.

SJG

And then we have the ultimate chump: one who thinks every single guy should approach girls in TJ the way he would. Any other approach and he labels the guy a chump. He has the nerve to insult other people for having wants that differ from his. Oh and by the way, this guy has NEVER been to TJ, and probably never will as he is a broke bastard who lives through the accounts of others.

Does it fulfill fantasies? Yes. Next stupid question. At what price? What is the most you can possibly afford? OK, I am being flip and will apologize for that. After all you are new here. You can get anything you want, better and cheaper in Mexico. You just have to look. OTOH, it is also good to have a finely tuned BS meter on high 24/7.

Most all of it has been said here already and is conflicting.

HK is most likely to have 10s, but there are a lot of other clubs and a lot of other girls. If you want a trophy fuck, that is fine. However, I have found that those girls tend to be disappointing. I have had the best time with 6-7s who love er ah, draining a guy of all his energy...and then doing it again.

Best advice: Slow down. Relax. Be up front with your desires and the price BEFORE you agree to arriba. Learn the word "NO." In English it is "NO." In Spanish it is "NO." Use that word a lot or your bank will be saying "no" much too fast. Don't get drunk. Don't buy drugs. Don't wander out of the zone after dark. (Although the zone is reasonably safe 24/7.) Don't be stupid. And always remember, the girls have human feelings (hardened by the profession, but they can still be hurt by a pendejo) and that you are a guest in another country.

Act like you are a guest in your boss's home and will come back happy, exhausted, and planning your next trip. Make sure that you take notes, take names, and post reviews.

Finally, RTFF (read the frigging forums) and all your questions will be answered! (The post recommended by Papi is a great place to start.) There are forums, such as chicabow.com, that focus on TJ. There are members there that have been going to TJ for decades, hang out together, and post frequently. (And like anywhere else, there are a few dicks that get their jollies by posting BS, but you can quickly ferret them out.)

San Jose Guy is 100% correct. Guys who go arriba with smoking hot 21 year old women and have amazing sex are chumps! They are playing the chumps game.

Guys like me and San Jose Guy who have never been to Tijuana are the true winners. We aren't chumps. We don't take smoking hot girls arriba. We don't play the chumps game.

Instead, we hang out in our basement typing 1,000 word essays on TUSCL and then jerk off into a sock afterward. That's the way to roll.

Don't play the chumps game! Do what San Jose Guy does! He's my best friend and mentor! He taught me everything I know!

He taught me to switch hands and use both your left and right hands when jerking off. Thank you San Jose Guy!

Are we meeting up again next Saturday to play Dungeons and Dragons and to plan our fantasy organization?

ROTFLOL

SanJoseChump 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@tahoe, great advice as always. For anyone who has not been to TJ and is planning and seeking advice, I highly recommend hitting up Tahoe with your questions.

Thanks for the love y'all

So, take outs until now....

March is better for TJ HK?

Arriba for 30min is 80-100 USD

Arriba for hour is 120 USD

Always check "politely" before going to arriba

Dont use little head instead use your actual head and say NO

And there was some bashing I got only half of it and the other half went through my head ... Excuse me my sense of humor is tad bleak 🤷‍♂️.. I am getting there.

If someone can elaborate little bit on arriba session damages that'd be awesome. Because I am still confused whether to get a room and do arriba.. or get 30mins room for arriba?

Dumb me.. should have told my budget before. I can do like 1000? Will that give me awesome pse experience with no barriers (ofcourse I am gonna use my actual head for this) . I am talking about amazing limitless arriba with ps type fantasies with multiple 8-9-10s

If someone can lay the stats for my budget that would be great.

I'mma do this with all your support and I hope I eat your brains out with the experience I am gonna have!!

Lots of love boldboy

"If I don't make out. It won't work out"

And I like BoldBoy's tag line!

SJG

@BB,

If you stay at Hotel Cascades, which I recommend, buy a $50 VIP card and you'll get, among other benefits, 80 percent off room rate Monday-Tuesday and 20 percent off I think the other days (check the HK site for details). It's a good deal if you're there multiple days. Gets you one free beer per night, free shuttle to and from border, half-off lap dance per night and some other stuff, but the room discount is the big one. Stay at Cascades and it'll save you the room fee for each arriba, which I think is $19.

Also arriba rates vary some by club and time of day/day of week and by girl. A 7 at Chicago or Adalits in the late afternoon can be as low as $50 but a 10 in HK on a Weekend might not budge from $120 for 30min.

Sex Tourism does have its limitations.

When I am in Mexico it will be when I am going to be there regularly, for business. So I will be expecting to see whatever girl I end up with, regularly. So it won't really be sex tourism for me.

My interests in Mexico go way beyond just the zona. Puta's are just an easy way to get friendly with local women, not the primary purpose.

SJG

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Lol @SJG you have been saying the same thing for years.

OK make it interesting. Give us a ballpark estimate of time until you actually DO visit Mexico for business. 5 years? 10? I just wanna know how much longer we have to sit through these same ass future tense posts of yours, that's all😂😂😂

my next visit is monday. that’s a looooong time to wait.

@Jascoi if that's a long time to wait then SJG is light years away from his first visit lol.

@Boldboy88 I find the bar girls are often willing to stay remain for multiple hour sessions (two to three hours) if they are enjoying themselves. I always reserve a Jacuzzi room and bring massage oil. I have learned to mention the Jacuzzi downstairs to make sure they are interested. The cost is generally from $100 to $300. The $300 payment was for two girls (solid 7s in looks and 9s in attitude) from Mexico city for three hours.

As to multiple PSE with multiple 10s I have found to PSE to be mechanical and overrated myself. I have found the more sensual sessions with a 7 or 8 to be the most rewarding. I have found the bar girls that I would rate a 10 to be more transactional and the ones I would rate a 7 or 8 to be much more fun with a better session. To each their own and YMMV but just my two pesos worth.

And TFP, you have been saying the same things for years. You would do better if you could learn to post without talking about me. As it is now, you are just jacking yourself off.

SJG

@SJG take your own advice, shithead. Learn to post without talking about others. The only reason I talk shit about you every opportunity I get is because YOU do it all the time. You continually try to tell other people how they should spend their time in the club and call them chumps and other stupid ass names when they don't club how you think they should. Basically you're a giant narcissistic asshole. You keep talking shit and I'm gonna keep talking shit. Plain and simple. Fuck outta here trying to tell someone to post without talking about someone else. That's all you do every single day you hypocritical fuckwad.

In short, fuck you. We can keep this going as long as you want, I don't care.

Ok my dear brethren,

I am planning to go to HK tomorrow. I will be San Diego border in the afternoon around 2pm ish. Anyone wanna tag along?

I am little skeptical of going by myself (may be first visit nervousness) .. you think I will find fellow gringos there so that I have company?

Lemme know I am so excited.

Just practice your karate before you go and you'll be fine

Lol papi_chulo. I am against violence. Self defense is another story!

Any tips on solo visit is appreciated.

I am about to make reservations in Cascadas for 2days. Other than that everything else is like something discussed in forums like cabs at the entrance of border and all.

But any specific tips and suggestions are appreciated.

Mainly it's good to know if I can find company to rag along.

Lots of love Boldboy

Make that reservation in advance, like now, as the hotel does fill up. If you cannot book Cascadas, book the Rio across the street. The Rio is not quite as nice, but they are affiliated and an HK VIP card should get you the discount at the RIO. What is more important is that you can take bar girls from HK, BT, and LC to your hotel room. You can also take street girls to your room. You might be able to get girls from other clubs to come to your room, but not during their shift and even if they are off shift, it can be difficult. Escorts are also very reluctant to come to Zona hotels.

Take lots of $1s and pass them out to staff, including a few to each of the security guys. The security guys were giving me grief occasionally, because they could. Example, an off-shift bar girl and I planned to spend the night together. She came up to my room in her civies and shortly thereafter the security troll came up and gave me grief. I told him that she was there because we were going out to dinner together. A $5 tip made sure that he didn't give me any grief when we came back. It worked fine. That was about 12 visits ago. Now he smiles every time he sees me and every trip I pass him and a few others $3.

I like having girls in my room all night. Civies or bar girls on shift. They don't give me no grief.

" you can take bar girls from HK, BT, and LC to your hotel room. You can also take street girls to your room"

"I like having girls in my room all night. Civies or bar girls on shift. "

Says it all right there!

SJG

If my VIP card is still current, I can get parking, hotel room, beers, tips and 5 nuts for around $700. I stay 1 night. I think $1000 is more than fine for a good time.

@BB Lots of guys, like me, go there solo. If this hasn't been mentioned before, a few things I abide by:

1. Don't engage with anyone on the street, don't make eye contact. Many will try to sell you something, ask if you're looking for girls, etc. Ignore them or nod your head no.
2. Don't stray from the high-traffic bar areas at night.
3. Don't meander and look like you are lost. Walk with purpose from point A to point B, like you've been there before.
4. Keep as low a profile as possible.
5. Don't get shit-faced.
6. It's safe inside HK. Never experienced or seen any trouble in my time there. But don't get drunk and don't make a spectacle of yourself -- unless a girl pulls you onto stage and sits on your face, then it's OK.

Good advice from JAprufrock.

I will add three more.

1. Don't take or display any "bling." The only think I have is a small, custom, gold ring. Not a lot of $ value, but even the bar girls warn me not to wear that one little item. This includes an expensive watch. Rather, anything that you don't want to lose.
2. Don't pull out an expensive cell phone for any reason. Consider bringing your regular phone (if necessary) and an old phone to use as a decoy.
3. Consider a decoy wallet. Bad Guy says, "Give me your wallet, watch, and cell phone!" Me, "It is yours. Here!" My ID and big money is kept in a separate, hidden pocket. Of course if the police stop and frisk you, they will discover your stash, so if you follow this advice, carry the minimum ID and funds necessary. Hide the balance in your hotel room. (I have had few problems with the staff or bad guys entering my hotel room.

Advice for a first timer, since you will be there two days:

1. Do not worry so much about value rather concentrate on having a fun time, even if you spend a little more (do not pass up a good time over $20).

2. If you find someone who catches your eye approach her even if you just arrived, forget the "I want to settle in for an hour first mentality", you may never see her again.

3. Depending on what you are looking for I would tend to avoid the BGs who hang out in the middle of the club (between the two main stages) as they may be amongst the most attractive but are more likely to be too busineslike (higher priced, mechanical, no fichas just arriba, etc).

Have fun and happy Mongering 2020.

Don't engage with anyone on the street?

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SJG

@boldboy88 I will get in around midnight tonight. Buy you a beer if you are still there?

^^^^^ but also, select the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with, spend some time with her first, and of course the preliminary makeout session.

TJ Street

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SJG

@SanJoseGuy, during the last night of my recent trip there, I began making out with a gal who I took up to my room. Problem is, while I was locked onto her luscious lips and my free hand was roaming all over her young, sexy body, I was having perplexing thoughts about whether this qualified as a front-room makeout session, since my hotel room, technically, was near the front of the club. I'm struggling to figure this out. Please advise.

The main criterion is whether or not the preliminary makeout session happens before or after you commit to paying for the session.

So it is best where you first engage with her. You should not be paying for dances or back room time. or any other premium seating or per song fees, until this makeout session occurs.

But you can be giving her generosity money, nothing wrong with that. Very good to offer that as soon as you are within arms reach of her.

Now in AMPs, you usually cannot initiate a makeout session in the front room. Usually do have to pay for the massage house fee.

And with street girls you usually cannot start your makeout session on the sidewalk. But you could probably take her to lunch and give her money for that. Then you can still make your makeout session go before committing to the arriba.

Strip clubs, being hang out places and it being hard to prohibit makeout sessions, they have huge front room advantages.

But AMPs have a better back room than US strip clubs.

SJG

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