Interesting Encounter—Possibly the future of the dancer directory and this site?
nicespice
He was a fun individual to interact with. I asked him what his screen name was, and he told me he doesn’t actually have an account on this site. He mostly lurks this site on the discussion board here and there and hasn’t read the reviews either. I asked him his favorite clubs of choice around Portland and realized he’s not a hardened monger like the rest of you guys. 😝 We had a great time and he very much appreciated my dances. We exchanged numbers, so I can text if/when I come back into town.
Wow. I know one TUSCLer PMed me once because he recognized me from a club once. But I’ve never chit chatted with him IRL.
This is the first time I’ve ever met a customer f2f however, without an appointment via PM.
It would be interesting if in the future, the dancer directory ends up changing up the board demographics.
P.S. If you’re reading this, yes I do still think you ~should~ get an account on here. 🤪As a stripper, I probably shouldn’t be encouraging this. But most men who use this site regularly, definitely feel as if they get more positive strip club interactions from here.
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At a minimum, better not to try and set up meetings with dancers via this site. That would create tension.
But, as this guy did not set up a meeting, he just showed up, okay. I guess he decided that he did like NiceSpice f2f, so he approached. Could then be good, pleasant surprise.
SJG
I could go either way but I think a website where dancers can post their schedules and pictures is ideal.
I certainly would have never met you without at least you being an active member. If I weren't a member myself I would think I'd have been just like that guy and lurked your pics and then gone to see you just like he did. But since we were both members it worked out that I could PM with you in advance. I do like that part since I don't exchange my personal phone info with strippers, but again I could do without it by just lurking and hoping your schedule was accurate.
But that was more a personal preference thing rather than any fear of consequences. Wow. That’s also something that I wonder if it will become a more widespread thing in the future.
For being a member here I certainly exchange both good and bad interactions with other TUSCL PLs that I trust. In fact prior to meeting you another fellow local TUSCLer had told me you were a cool chick (LMAO and that you had incredible tits 😍).
Probably no. That would be like turning a stripper into an escort. We already have sites with escort ads.
Arranging the meeting would also be like one of these dating services. It creates tension in the girl, will I like her?
Whereas with f2f first meetings, if I like her, she will feel it in her bones.
So if I was to seek contact with a female member, I probably would just go to her club. I would never ask anyone about her, I would just try to find her without mentioning my knowledge of her TUSCL identity.
If after some interaction it looked like things were a go for us, then I might tell her about my knowledge of her TUSCL identity. But again, this would only be if things looked like a go for us, like waking up together in the morning was likely. I might even wait until that morning to tell her.
Of the super cute petite big tits black girl I followed from a lunch place into San Francisco New Century, I did not tell her that I'd spotted her out on the side walk until our front room makeout session was well underway. Told at that point, it really tickled her, cause I told her the story without telling her that it was about her. Then when she figured it out, she blushed. I talked about a girl whom I thought was an office worker, and of how I was going to try and invite her to lunch.
Never want to hurt a girl's feelings by showing that you don't really like her looks, or are somehow ambivalent about her. No need to create those kinds of situations.
Many of the women who post and are in the dancer directory, to me, they look like the probably do not currently dance in strip clubs. So probably then I would never seek contact with them.
See, Want, Get is the powerful turn on of strip clubs. And well, it goes a long way to explain why strip club women very often do reciprocate when there is such interest.
Escort systems are inferior, and so I would only use them if there was no Strip Club or AMP alternative.
I do notice that there is the MLB escort system, totally GFE and TLN preferred, in Tijuana. Sometimes they have had meet the girls events at places like pizza restaurants. I think that is really cool, meet them non-commitally.
I assume that preliminary makeout sessions are then common. And they say that the girls are session available, though they only want TLN's.
SJG
SJG
The TUSCL dancer directory has the same potential. However, FOSTA is what caused xoticspot.com to voluntarily shut down, so I dunno...
Whereas if there is chemistry, she will feel it in her bones.
That's why I believe in f2f first meetings only.
SJG
I’ve noticed recently that it one dancer in particular is slowly gaining some popularity, and she doesn’t even post on the discussion board at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a few other dancers too that I haven’t noticed. 🤔
https://www.tuscl.net/member.php?id=6636…
It seems that it was a good experience, so no issues.
@Paul It doesn’t for me on here. If it was like some straight up escort shit maybe (which is there) But just posting on here, what a great way to line up potential customers and screen them out at the same time.
I would think a stripper could get some perspective and learn things about PLs and clubs just from lurking. So to them it's enough just to do that rather than feeling the need to be more public about herself with an account and pics and such.
Oddly enough, the biggest thing that drew me onto the board at first was nicole1994. I couldn’t help noticing her, considering she was from my local area and somebody I considered an enigma.
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LMAO there is irony that she drew you in. When that happened you had a nice avatar pic which is what drew me to you. Then your posts and profile hooked me. Then I trolled nicole1994 and it set up our PMs. Then we met up. LMAO all because of her it turns out. 🤔
I was being honest at the time with wanting to find out about clubs around the country when I invited TUSCLers to PM me. For the longest time I wanted to travel dance. And before posting on the board, I really had only ever worked in San Antonio and Austin. I’ve come a long way since then. 😁
@muddy lol
And if more strippers did this, even locally, it would help generate more site activity and more business for them. Both lurkers and active members would be able to get stripper information for their local clubs and those strippers would, in turn, benefit from possibly more potential business. The only downsides to all of this are the potential creepy TUSCLer and revealing oneself publicly.
And in return I was allowed to give good mileage lapdances, and comfortable knowing that it was all allowed and good. Win/win
In any case, I try not to make assumptions about anyone, but I'll admit an online presence would make me curious about meeting them IRL. So it's definitely a plus in my book if more dancers registered here and let us know about themselves.
I know some members saw me when I worked coat check at Silver Criket because I was mentioned in a few reviews back then (I had pink pair then).
But it would be really weird for a lurker to tell me he recognized me. Is he a lurker with an account? Maybe we can make the dancer directory viewable only to those with accounts?
Most of the people on the TUSCL boards, probably.
I've received two PMs from guys who strictly lurk the discussions. One was very supportive of a position I'd taken in some battle. The other guy... not so much.
The only dancer here who *really* uses her TUSCL profile strategically and to her benefit is LinzeeDet. And she seems to be doing great.
imo ( aside from the homepage ) the site should require membership to access.
I had no personal problems with the customer. I’m glad he showed up and helped double my income. I didn’t get any creep vibes from him. And at the end, we exchanged numbers. But aside from sending a friendly text thanking me for a great time, he hasn’t blown up my phone.
I personally welcome more randos to show up and make things easier for me.
Not to mention, I’ve been debating with myself back and fourth whether or not I wanted to go the next step further and “out” myself more online. As in, set up actual social media accounts and be willing to have my face visible for once.
The way I see it, if I do that, then I definitely am going to have to not mind randoms like that. If I decide I don’t want to be so “out” just yet, then I’ll have to alter my profile and be even more discreet.
Not going to easily pass out any of my club stage names at this time for example, because I get into too many flame wars with board members with troll aliases. 😈
That said, I'd likely use it much in the way you're describing. While I do participate in extra activities, I also enjoy a more typical strip club experience as well. What I consider more typical is: maybe having a drink or a little conversation and then going for a couple of lap dances. Or, sitting at the stage or my table and just tipping on stage. I'm not interested in air dances, but I'm generally not pushing the limits either.
Not saying the customer did this, but there's a decent chance I'd not give my profile name if you asked. Not a whole lot of benefit for me to sharing that.
Man! The attitudes towards customers were as bad as StripperWeb. Just shut up, give them money, accept what they give in return and go away. I was shocked by the feelings the ladies have towards customers. And they air it openly as if it won't turn potential customers away.
I haven't been clubbing lately because of lack of opportunity....a wife and kid will do that to you. But even if I were single and free I'm not sure I would want to hit a club. 9 out of 10 ladies seem to hate customers in the industry....so why bother. Sure it's a fantasy to think she's into you....but it appears the truth is closer to her holding back the opportunity to puke all over you and steal your wallet.
So....no.....I won't share that I'm part of any kind of review site. The ladies seem to resent that we share with other guys what our experiences with them are. They'll site that it's always a ymmv but it sounds to me more like they don't want the next customer to have any expectations (good or bad).
If I make it to another club....My name is John, it's my first time here, I know nothing about clubs or what goes on in them and anything else I can do to keep them from wanting to tear my head off while hoping they'll play with my little head.
The fact somebody lurked before visiting the club is *still* not creepy.
I’d rather somebody have time to decide whether he would like a dance from me in the comfort and privacy his own home, rather than while dicking around at the club like most of these Portland dudes do—I am an impatient ho. Granted, I sat and chit chatted with him anyways before getting dances, but that was more my mo than his.
Oh wait, that's the wrong kind of dicking. My bad. 🤷
And then they also talk about escorted. Then they all do DFKing.
So it is just a way women can get sometimes. Doesn't necessarily mean that they are permanently attached to position.
SJG
1) Reward and support it! Go see a stripper that posts her pics and schedule on her profile and support her at the club while also mentioning that it was great that she posted it all in her profile.
2) Don't be a creepy stalker to her in real life and don't push her for extras or anything beyond just stripping if you do engage her through PMs for the first time.
3) Interact with strippers on the board in a light hearted way and don't be a male chauvinist pig. Show respect.
None of this is chemical engineering. 😝
I myself had stumbled on TUSCL a year or two b/f joining - once in a while I would do a search on the web for club info and would see a TUSCL link to a review but one could only read a snippet so I left it at that (I don't think I even inquired about joining to read reviews; I think I assumed one could only read reviews by paying and I wasn't interested) - I eventually joined TUSCL b/c I was gonna do an out-of-state trip and wanted to read some reviews - I paid for a lifetime membership at the time b/c I felt it was pretty-cost-effective ($79 lifetime back in early 2012) - I didn't have much interest in participating in the discussion board nor writing reviews, just needed some info for an upcoming trip - after getting my paid membership I started looking at reviews for the city I was going to (Houston) but was overwhelmed by the # of clubs and reviews and was lost and that is when I decided to go on the discussion board and ask for advice - even after joining I didn't write any reviews for several months - started writing some reviews after someone on the board called me out for being chatty on many threads but not having any reviews (I felt PL-emasculated - back then a TUSCLer's stats (# of clubs reviewed, and # of total reviews) was displayed beside his TUSCL name and being a double-zero (no clubs reviewed, and no reviews at all) was a badge of PL-dishonor).
I prefer the surprise rickspection myself, but I respect you because you’re a good hairless ape.
If it went really well, at some point I would tell her of my TUSCL identity and quote some stuff from her posts.
Like with the super cute black girl, since I knew what she was wearing out on the sidewalk, and I knew were she was walking from, that proved my story, and that really influenced her.
But I would not start off by telling the girl I knew her from TUSCL, or by trying to contact her via TUSCL to set up a meeting.
I really do believe in F2F first meetings. That is what strip clubs are for, and AMPs too.
Escort services are an inferior approach, because the date has been agreed to before there is any unstructured fraternizing, and before any preliminary makeout session.
SJG
What’s not creepy is putting ghb in your drink.
SJG
I simply question whether it is prudent to inform a dancer (when you are a customer) that you’ve lurked around this site. Maybe, after learning about NiceSpice, this guy surmised she wouldn’t react negatively to his revelation. Or, maybe this guy thought that NiceSpice would offer more after hearing he knew of her? Obviously it’s all speculation.
We ricks exploit sexy female hairless apes the honorable way: by finding one that are especially desperate for money and applying our charm. Taking down the sick and injured wildebeest is simply good strategy; drugging the wildebeest is over the line. We ricks may be assholes but we aren’t 100% dicks! ROAR!!!
The initial contact was days after I joined. I believed I'd gotten extremely lucky right out of the gate, and was worried about creating an unrealistic expectation for others, but being able to point them toward this particular post (which gives me an idea for a dressing room thread...) is really helpful.
I think it's great that there are ways to interact here without actually having to interact... lurking sounds so creepy. Maybe browsing...? 🤔
But the point is that this is a forum that many different types can use for whatever works for them and I hope the good experiences keep rollin in!
And those unicorns? They really DO exist!
LOL I like calling it lurking but whateva.
And yes I met a real unicorn named 'nicespice'. 🍆🦄🤗
On the customer side, I wish the filters in the Dancer Directory were a bit more developed. But that's a whole other thing.
I didn't send her any PMs initially because I wanted to see exactly what she looked like first. She only had one picture up and you couldn't tell anything about how she looked besides that she had white looking skin. Anyhow it was cool meeting her and she was a great person but the experience didn't go as well as Spice/SLD or Endless Summer's encounter. Review of that here: https://www.tuscl.net/review.php?id=3572…
But I think used correctly the dancer directory can definitely help a girl increase her earnings via meetups with silent admirers. Judging just from the 2 meetups we read about in this thread, the meetups were mutually beneficial meaning good money for the dancer. In my meetup I had a good $700 to spend but I wasn't prepared to spend $600 for just a half hour.
To me if you don't reach out beforehand, then you run the same risks as you get not having the dancer directory.
During all of this, there was no expectation on anything other than a friendly meet and greet. Even so, I felt that I should help her with her expenses because the area we were in would not allow her to dance because she had to become an employee vs an independent contractor. So, I did pay for our dinners, drinks, and dances plus I gave her extra $$$ just because. So.... being good company can be a marketable skill for this sight as well. With the right person, the girl can at least have some relaxation time and fulfill a need at the same time. Meeting NICESPICE face to face gave me an entirely different perspective on this TUSCL site.
To be honest all that negotiating in PMs doesn't sound like my thing anyway. Sounds almost too business like. Once again I had no problem just showing up and happening to meet the dancer I saw in the directory, seeing our price points didn't match, then having a great time with someone else instead.
And in regards to nicespice and I negotiating in PM, it was more like a casual conversation and no different than a face to face discussion. Sure it was business but at some point that same business is going to surface in real life. It's unavoidable and only a question as to when and where you want to negotiate. Also a lot of it had to do with the fact that we had a pre-existing rapport and even an online friendship as fellow TUSCLers. We both already knew about each other too. With a new stripper that I didn't know I probably wouldn't get into that much business detail.
And you're all making my point for me exactly... each guy and gal can communicate (or not) in a way that's comfortable for them.
I had another experience early on where a random unknown reached out to me regarding my DC club. I thought he meant to come by the club for a drink, but it quickly devolved into an invitation I wasn't comfortable accepting. I was able to politely decline from the comfort of my own phone, and therefore, saved us both a lot of time. And we all know... time is money! 🤑
Ya know, I'd always thought "unicorn" was reserved to describe the fairer sex exclusively. But, I was wrong...I found one of my very own! 🦄
I really appreciate all the great feedback here and I'm definitely doing what I can to spread the word in my little corner of the world...🌞
This is good advice for every PL with any woman. I enjoy extras but never push for them and respect a dancer's limits. it is entirely possible to enjoy watching a woman dance, enjoy her lap dances and just hanging out with her. My favorite club is a non extras club.
@nicespice, or any other dancer. If you should ever come this way, please let us know. This PL will respect your limits.
https://www.tuscl.net/member.php?id=3079…
She posted consistantly for anlong time and eventually told about some trouble she was in. She posted one day ofnher goodbyes because she was going to jail for a while. Never heard of her since.
There are a lot that posted for a month or two then disappeared.
This is the last thread she participated in before ghosting.
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
She fired off a couple of good shots before departing.
Also, I really wish that the gallery feature had been implemented while she was here...
I agree with this. Yes there will always be a solid % of dancers who do not want any sort of online connection - dancing is probably the most anonymous remaining form of adult entertainment. But IME the younger generation of girls are becoming much more active in marketing themselves on social media and other websites. I definitely think that this section has a chance to grow, especially if it is cross marketed on the review side and promoted on the home page.
I've also been PMed once and out of the blue by a somewhat active stripper here. She knew I was a Portland regular and the clubs I went to, so she reached out to me just before she came to town. I'm hoping she posts to this thread. And I didn't think she was creepy for it. 😝. Her PM was sweet and friendly.