Minneapolis ordinance to protect adult entertainment workers moves forward

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http://m.startribune.com/city-ordinance-…

One after another, workers from Minneapolis’ adult entertainment world shared their stories Monday with City Council members.

They had gathered for a public hearing on the city’s proposed ordinance designed to protect exotic dancers from financial exploitation and provide a safer and cleaner work environment.

Most supported the ordinance as an important first step to help workers in an industry where rights are often ignored by the government. Others said they had no problems with current working conditions, and that clubs that don’t treat workers well should be dealt with on an individual basis.

The four council members making the quorum for the Public Health, Environment, Civil Rights, and Engagement Committee voted unanimously to pass the ordinance, which will be heard by the full council next week. Council Member Linea Palmisano said every worker in the city deserves a safe environment and that the ordinance should help undo some of the stigmas associated with the industry.

“I’m really proud that this was an empowering conversation for workers,” she said.

The ordinance would prohibit club management from requiring performers to turn over a portion of their tips at the end of a shift. Management would also be required to give performers written contracts upon hiring, along with the club’s anti-discrimination policies.

For safety, entertainers would be given security escorts when leaving after a shift and cameras would be required in closed, private dancing areas.

Clubs could not employ managers or security staff with recent domestic violence convictions. The ordinance would also set new sanitation standards, requiring staff to immediately clean up and keep a log of bodily fluid “spills.”

The council chamber was filled for the nearly two-hour hearing, with many holding signs that read “Minneapolis Supports Strippers.”

In drafting the ordinance, the city reached out to workers in the adult entertainment industry through studies by the University of Minnesota and the Minnesota State University-Mankato and the Sex Workers Outreach Project, representatives from the industry and workplace advisory council.

Those studies concluded that workers dealt with physical injuries because of unsafe stages, sexual and physical assault, cleanliness problems, unclear customer expectations and a lack of support from management.

A representative of Déjà Vu and two other downtown clubs said he supported the ordinance, but was concerned that businesses wouldn’t have enough time to comply with design requirements.

Monica, a former dancer who is now a worker’s rights advocate, said the ordinance is really a list of common-sense protections. She was particularly angered at giving tips to management, because they already make a wage.

Stephen Befort, a University of Minnesota law professor, said a state law already prohibits employers from requiring tips or accepting them. A major issue is that dancers are often classified as independent contractors and not employees, which severely limits their workplace rights.

Government has contributed to workplaces problems in clubs because they view adult entertainment as a “social nuisance” and “something to cover up,” said Jayne Swift, an organizer for Minneapolis’ chapter of Sex Workers Outreach Project who worked on the Mankato study.

Tara, a dancer who works at Downtown Cabaret, said she has rarely been harassed at the clubs she has danced at for the last 15 years. She believes sharing tips is worthwhile since those employees protect her when needed.

Several women of color who worked at clubs said that they have faced discrimination. Several clubs had told them that more than two women of color couldn’t work on the same shift, and that they often received less-busy time slots.

Council Member Cam Gordon, who drafted the ordinance, said he originally thought that all that needed to be done was to close the VIP rooms and classify all the workers as employees instead of independent contractors.

He soon found out those were things that dancers wanted preserved.

Committee Chair Phillipe Cunningham thanked the dancers for speaking out because they could face retaliation from club owners.

“This may be a radical statement coming from a council member, but sex work is work,” he said.

Council Member Andrea Jenkins said passing the ordinance is a step in the right direction “to really lift up and support all sex workers.”

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twentyfive
5 years ago
I like the part about not allowing folks convicted of domestic violence to be in a supervisory position.
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herbtcat
5 years ago
1. Cameras in VIP required.

2. "keep a log of bodily fluid “spills.”" WTF???

How is that going to work? RevHorny's desplooginations must now be logged and reported to the state?

Really?
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
IDK the ins-and-outs of what goes on behind the scenes - I imagine some clubs exploit dancers more than others but I would think the market could sort that out better than the government (e.g. dancers not wanting to dance at the more shitty clubs) - I think the government getting involved will likely do more harm than good and they will likely go overboard "trying to protec the helpless dancers" to the point it won't be worth it to custies to go in and spend their $$$ (not to mention regulations often come at a cosst that's often passed down to the custies and/or dancers themselves)
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
I can already see a black dancer suing bc she didn't get hired solely bc she was black
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shadowcat
5 years ago
How can Minneapolis make strip clubs any worse than they already are?
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FishHawk
5 years ago
This is an interesting situation. I am for protecting the rights of all workers. Like Papi says the government has a mixed success rate at best in doing this. An organization of dancers might be more successful in a collective bargaining situation. I have become used to seeing cameras in lap dance and VIP areas of the clubs in this area. I am not a real extras hound so it has not bothered me too much. With the right dancer it does not seem to restrict milage too much.
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Muddy
5 years ago
Well it looks good for the dancer on the surface. Nice your working in Minnie right now, what are the other girls saying about it?

And lol at having to tip for “protection” Fucking crooks.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
5 years ago
"For safety, entertainers would be given security escorts when leaving after a shift..."

That makes sense. And it's low hanging fruit for good club policy.

"... and cameras would be required in closed, private dancing areas."

Predictably, this wouldn't thrill me.

"Clubs could not employ managers or security staff with recent domestic violence convictions."

And that should be a no-brainer.

"... new sanitation standards, requiring staff to immediately clean up and keep a log of bodily fluid 'spills.'"

And the winner of the "Most Hilarious Excel Spreadsheet" of 2019 goes to...

I'm with Papi. When government gets involved, it's usually not great. And often "safety and protection" becomes a vehicle to regulate adult businesses out of business.

The sad reality is that most strip clubs don't need to jump through hoops of fire to avoid this sort of scrutiny.
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Subraman
5 years ago
-->"2. "keep a log of bodily fluid “spills.”" WTF??? "

Staff will need to write a 300-page novel just on the inside of LapDanceKing's pants alone
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skibum609
5 years ago
Put in cameras, remove me from the scene.
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whodey
5 years ago
So they are ok with allowing bodily fluid to be spilled as long as it is logged and cleaned up?

Does the log have to contain the name of the customer that spilled their bodily fluid?

Can we get a log posted of which dancers most frequently cause bodily fluids to be spilled?
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whodey
5 years ago
Since the club is responsible for cleaning up bodily fluids that are spilled, does that mean they will pay for the dry cleaning after an LDK?
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Huntsman
5 years ago
Hey, if staff had to immediately clean spilled fluid, at least it would be more apparent which dancers could cause such spills.
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Liwet
5 years ago
How do cameras protect the strippers?
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
If they are taking bodily fluids into account, does that mean they are aware of, or are ok with, extras happening?
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Call.Me.Ishmael
5 years ago
Aware of? ... I'm pretty sure they are.

Okay with?...Likely not.

Could this be the dawn of BYOM clubs? (Bring Your Own Mop)
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NeverEnuf
5 years ago
Don't you get it? The dancer with the least bodily fluid "spills" logged has the most swallows.
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NeverEnuf
5 years ago
It's also a clever way of expanding the DNA databases to catch more criminals without lettin' on to the crooks.
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san_jose_guy
5 years ago
I'm sure the folks here know that these rules would destroy that metro's strip clubs. Sounds like what was considered in Detroit not to long back, I guess really for all of Michigan.

In this kind of industry, Sex Work, market forces really are what best advantage and protect dancers The more clubs, the better. Portland has the highest percapita, do dancers there complain?

Our dancer there only complained about the fines and rules in the upscale clubs. She liked the dives just fine.

Thanks for posting this Nicespice, please do keep us informed.


SJG


After the swimming pool stuff; check out the girl playing the electric mandolin! I guess she is wearing a flapper dress, unhindered by a bra. Like her big tits. Looks rather tall. And I love the full thighs. Anyone know who she is? Would not be easy to assemble a group of musicians who could play this so well, so much like the original recording. But I really like that one girl. My tastes have changed, post marriage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsYenrhb…
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vajmon
5 years ago
More idiot laws!
@nicespice, how bout posting some picts of your pussy instead of those lame photos on your profile page :P
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nicespice
5 years ago
@vajmon Come visit me at the nude club I’m at right now, and I’ll be sure to spread it nice and wide for you. 🙂

@muddy The club I’m technically at is a suburb club, not a downtown Minneapolis club. I don’t think I’m affected. Amusingly enough, the club I’m at has the rep for the lowest mileage in the area...and dancers and customers both would claim downtown Minneapolis clubs are like brothels. But I see plenty of gym short wearing customers, and for some of them I’m almost certain there’s some kind of bodily fluid spilling shenanigans going on.
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TFP
5 years ago
@Nicespice so even in that low mileage club you're working at now dudes still manage to LDK off your dances???
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Muddy
5 years ago
Really? interesting that isn’t reflected on TUSCL. You would think Minneapolis is square city based on how they talk about it here. Now I gotta check it out. *looks at map 🗺 * Minneapolis is only at least 30 hours from everything. Cool.
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WickThePuppy
5 years ago
This is my bitch in Minnesota


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/38/e7/55/38e75…

Hells yeah wuf wuf
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nicespice
5 years ago
@tfp yeah, well I’d imagine it would be tough during floor dances, since the chairs are high and there is a foot on the floor rule. VIP you can dance cowgirl tho...but if touching boobs/butt is a necessity then no it won’t happen.

Which idk what to make of my mileage. Another dancer one time walked up to me and told me to chill out on that. But I haven’t seen her in a while. And staff members...who I know watches the cameras, seem okay with me. So I’m not too sure where on the scale I’m on but I hope it’s not bad. 😐 It seems like plenty of other dancers grind tho.

As far as dudes LDKing...not sure to what extent. I know of one because he explicitly told me so. And another customer (who I didn’t talk to on stage or on the floor at all prior) walked up to me and automatically wanted to do a 3 song VIP...and afterwards he tips $10 and leaves the club. It’s just the gym shorts I find suspicious lol. A customer told me that downtown clubs tend to not allow them but that club is perfectly okay with it.

@muddy LMAO. I don’t actually believe it. I asked a TUSCLer about what actually happens in downtown clubs. It seems dirtier acts are few and far between.
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Prim0
5 years ago
This seems like the government getting their foot in the door....to be followed by what though? Neither side of the political spectrum seems interested in promoting the sex trade....Liberals want to do everything to protect the women from having to touch those nasty mens......and Conservatives (who should be for the government keeping their nose out of it) do so to protect everyone involved's souls!

I can't think of too many things in history where government got involved and people ended up with more freedom or liberty. Chances are, we'll hear down the road how clubs are closing down because of increased government regulation. For their protection, the ladies shouldn't have to do X.......and for the safety of the customers, guys cannot do Y...and so on and so on.
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Ferdinx
5 years ago
@nicespicce, I knew you were back at KOD as soon as I saw "suburban Minneapolis" and "nude". :)

And yes, I can attest that LDKs are definitely possible in their VIP, as I've had to ask multiple dancers to back off on their grind because I didn't want to LDK...
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san_jose_guy
5 years ago
THe people making these rules have no idea what goes on in strip clubs.

But what is more problematic is that dancers testifying. Maybe they were retired, to fat and old to work anymore?

Current dancers need to come up with a counter line, just like was done in Detroit and NOLA.

SJG
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nicespice
5 years ago
@Ferdinx 😁

@SJG The dancers were given $50 and snacks for their time when they were testifying.
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vajmon
5 years ago
@nicespice. Maybe I would be tempted to fly across the country and visit you at your nude club if you posted better picts of yourself :)
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blahblahblah23
5 years ago
Lol!!!
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san_jose_guy
5 years ago
"The dancers were given $50 and snacks for their time when they were testifying."

Still hard to imagine current dancers going and asking for regulations. Even if they do find aspects of the club objectionable, they must understand that more regulations will be very destructive. Most of the time dancers want to be able to do things their way, so long as they can be selective.

And who gave them the $50 and the snacks?

Just like in NOLA and Detroit, important for active dancers to make it clear that they can take care of themselves and that they don't need any more regulations.

SJG
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Nixur68
5 years ago
Did anyone here even read the article?

They city wanted to shut down VIP Rooms and the dancers said no we want to keep them.

The conclusion of all of this is really, really good for everyone. Minneapolis clubs aren’t amazing like other big cities but still decent and this keeps them that way.

For once citizens and the local government worked together. In the past most cities have shut down clubs entirely.
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nicespice
5 years ago
^ Very true. That was very commendable for city council to actually listen to dancer input before passing any ordinances. It’s just the fact that it happened at all that raises suspicions when so many other city councils have set a negative precedent.
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san_jose_guy
5 years ago
Locally dancers have gone to City Councils and to other city meetings, in Sunnyvale, to try and interdict the ordinances.

I this case I think dancer activism could make a big difference, like it did in NOLA.

Remember, they are talking about rules which apply no where else except in a licensed adult entertainment locale. The ordinances will be unconstitutional, but getting a court to decide this is usually impractical.

For those dancers who want to keep working, I suggest getting involved and making it known that they do not want any more rules.

SJG
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san_jose_guy
5 years ago
My perception is that Erie Pennsylvania is a place which imposed lots of strip club rules.

Being a corner of PA that is between OH and NY, maybe it was a kind of a vice zone?

So they got these new regs and that collapsed.

So now there is one club out of town a ways.

As I see it, derailing these new Minneapolis unconstitutional regs is extremely important.

SJG
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