Not A Self-Made Man
reverendhornibastard
Depraved Deacon of Degeneracy
Some who have known me for a long time say that I am “a self made man.” They mean it as a compliment. They believe this about me because I grew up poor and later became rich without resorting to crime or winning the lottery.
They are wrong about me. I’m not a self made man at all. My success was mostly, maybe even entirely, a matter of dumb luck.
I once also believed that I was a self-made man. But that was a long time ago. I eventually realized that my self-made status was false and completely unwarranted. I should actually take very little credit for my current social and economic status. I have felt this way for a long time now.
The following are the top 10 traits or circumstances that, in my opinion, were most pivotal in contributing to my success:
1. ROLE MODELS: I would be a total different person if my father had been a pimp and my mother had been just one of the tattooed, drug-addicted bitches and hoes that he slapped around when she got out of line. But that was not my background. I had great parents. Although they were not highly educated, they both taught me to value education above all else and to pursue it relentlessly. I never even considered not going to college or pursuing an advanced degree after I completed my undergraduate studies. Going to college and getting an advanced degree were as inevitable in my life as teenage acne, going through puberty, getting a driver’s license ASAP, buying an old jalopy with money saved from my crappy, after-school job at a greasy restaurant and then spending every Friday and Saturday in the back seat of my car with my girlfriend trying desperately to pick her lock.
2. BORN AND RAISED IN THE USA: I was “🎵 born in the USA 🎶,” where the local culture places a strong emphasis on taking your own life by the horns and steering it where you want it to go and where the barriers to success are less onerous than in many other countries. All of my other advantages would have meant a lot less if I had been born to a poor, working class family in the United Kingdom and would have probably meant nothing at all if I had been born poor and raised in North Korea, Cuba or Somalia.
3. BORN AND RAISED IN TEXAS: This is not about Texan chauvinism. But if you’re growing up poor, it is very helpful to be in a place where the economy is usually strong and jobs are usually plentiful, the cost of living is low and where, as a Texas resident, you can attend a world class university for cheap. It would have been more difficult to achieve my success if I had been born poor and raised in West Virginia, Nebraska, Mississippi or Wyoming.
4. TIMING: I was born after World War II in a country that was not badly torn up and trying desperately to rebuild its infrastructure and economy after the devastation brought on by the that conflict. If I had been born poor in the USA in 1852 it wouldn’t have been so much of an advantage.
5. RACE: This shouldn’t have been an issue, but the ugly truth about being born and raised in South Texas in the 1950s and 1960s is that my race mattered a lot. Although I am of Hispanic descent, my family background is European (Spain, France and Portugal) rather than Native American or Mestizo (Latin Americans who are of mixed Native American and European ancestry). Given the era and location of my upbringing, my race would have been more of an issue and probably an impediment if I had been of Mestizo or African American background.
6. GOOD HEALTH: I have always enjoyed robust health. Even at my current age (this is the oldest I’ve ever been ... so far), I still enjoy good health, I have all my hair and my vital hydraulics are still in good working order. It’s hard to be successful if you feel and look like hammered crap.
7. INTELLIGENCE: I am of at least average intelligence, maybe even a skosh above average. Where do you suppose I’d be today if my IQ was around 75?
8. SELF CONFIDENCE: My parents instilled a high degree of self confidence in me by constantly telling me that I was highly intelligent. Luckily for me, I was stupid enough to believe them.
9. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: I am not talking about my grooming habits. I’m talking about my basic physical characteristics. I look “normal.” I’m not excessively tall or excessively short. I am well proportioned. I don’t have a face that people are going to stare at and say to themselves, “Look at that poor guy! There but for the grace of God go I.” My limbs are all in good working order. I don’t need a wheelchair to get around or a blind man’s cane. I don’t have a hare lip or buck teeth. In short, my personal appearance never cast a shadow on my opportunities. Actually, if it weren’t for my 3 pound pecker (when fully deflated) I would fit in completely.
10. PERSONALITY: I’m hard working, diligent, optimistic and I never give up. These are among the characteristics some people like to cite when they argue that I am a self made man. This is probably the greatest fallacy of all. Do remember as a youth when you decided to be diligent instead of a lazy slob? Do you remember electing to be optimistic rather than pessimistic? Do you recall when you acquire the trait of strong perseverance? Me either! I don’t remember making a conscious decision about any of this. I believe I had all of these traits before I was old enough to know what the words diligence, optimism or perseverance meant. One of my younger siblings, born and raised in the same household as I was, is far brighter and more creative than I am. But his personality does not include the traits of diligence, optimism or perseverance. About the only thing we have in common is a strong tendency to be mavericks. Despite his keen intelligence and creativity, his life in the shadows at the periphery of our society is radically different from mine.
Those are the top 10 factors that I believe contributed to my success. Delete or modify ANY of them and I wouldn’t be where I am today.
None of these circumstances or factors were of my own choosing or the product of my astute foresight and hard work. They were just the personal circumstances of my birth and my luck of the draw in the genetic lottery in which we all participated, like it or not.
I am most definitely not a self made man.
https://www.tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1889
I don’t think any of us are.
They are wrong about me. I’m not a self made man at all. My success was mostly, maybe even entirely, a matter of dumb luck.
I once also believed that I was a self-made man. But that was a long time ago. I eventually realized that my self-made status was false and completely unwarranted. I should actually take very little credit for my current social and economic status. I have felt this way for a long time now.
The following are the top 10 traits or circumstances that, in my opinion, were most pivotal in contributing to my success:
1. ROLE MODELS: I would be a total different person if my father had been a pimp and my mother had been just one of the tattooed, drug-addicted bitches and hoes that he slapped around when she got out of line. But that was not my background. I had great parents. Although they were not highly educated, they both taught me to value education above all else and to pursue it relentlessly. I never even considered not going to college or pursuing an advanced degree after I completed my undergraduate studies. Going to college and getting an advanced degree were as inevitable in my life as teenage acne, going through puberty, getting a driver’s license ASAP, buying an old jalopy with money saved from my crappy, after-school job at a greasy restaurant and then spending every Friday and Saturday in the back seat of my car with my girlfriend trying desperately to pick her lock.
2. BORN AND RAISED IN THE USA: I was “🎵 born in the USA 🎶,” where the local culture places a strong emphasis on taking your own life by the horns and steering it where you want it to go and where the barriers to success are less onerous than in many other countries. All of my other advantages would have meant a lot less if I had been born to a poor, working class family in the United Kingdom and would have probably meant nothing at all if I had been born poor and raised in North Korea, Cuba or Somalia.
3. BORN AND RAISED IN TEXAS: This is not about Texan chauvinism. But if you’re growing up poor, it is very helpful to be in a place where the economy is usually strong and jobs are usually plentiful, the cost of living is low and where, as a Texas resident, you can attend a world class university for cheap. It would have been more difficult to achieve my success if I had been born poor and raised in West Virginia, Nebraska, Mississippi or Wyoming.
4. TIMING: I was born after World War II in a country that was not badly torn up and trying desperately to rebuild its infrastructure and economy after the devastation brought on by the that conflict. If I had been born poor in the USA in 1852 it wouldn’t have been so much of an advantage.
5. RACE: This shouldn’t have been an issue, but the ugly truth about being born and raised in South Texas in the 1950s and 1960s is that my race mattered a lot. Although I am of Hispanic descent, my family background is European (Spain, France and Portugal) rather than Native American or Mestizo (Latin Americans who are of mixed Native American and European ancestry). Given the era and location of my upbringing, my race would have been more of an issue and probably an impediment if I had been of Mestizo or African American background.
6. GOOD HEALTH: I have always enjoyed robust health. Even at my current age (this is the oldest I’ve ever been ... so far), I still enjoy good health, I have all my hair and my vital hydraulics are still in good working order. It’s hard to be successful if you feel and look like hammered crap.
7. INTELLIGENCE: I am of at least average intelligence, maybe even a skosh above average. Where do you suppose I’d be today if my IQ was around 75?
8. SELF CONFIDENCE: My parents instilled a high degree of self confidence in me by constantly telling me that I was highly intelligent. Luckily for me, I was stupid enough to believe them.
9. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: I am not talking about my grooming habits. I’m talking about my basic physical characteristics. I look “normal.” I’m not excessively tall or excessively short. I am well proportioned. I don’t have a face that people are going to stare at and say to themselves, “Look at that poor guy! There but for the grace of God go I.” My limbs are all in good working order. I don’t need a wheelchair to get around or a blind man’s cane. I don’t have a hare lip or buck teeth. In short, my personal appearance never cast a shadow on my opportunities. Actually, if it weren’t for my 3 pound pecker (when fully deflated) I would fit in completely.
10. PERSONALITY: I’m hard working, diligent, optimistic and I never give up. These are among the characteristics some people like to cite when they argue that I am a self made man. This is probably the greatest fallacy of all. Do remember as a youth when you decided to be diligent instead of a lazy slob? Do you remember electing to be optimistic rather than pessimistic? Do you recall when you acquire the trait of strong perseverance? Me either! I don’t remember making a conscious decision about any of this. I believe I had all of these traits before I was old enough to know what the words diligence, optimism or perseverance meant. One of my younger siblings, born and raised in the same household as I was, is far brighter and more creative than I am. But his personality does not include the traits of diligence, optimism or perseverance. About the only thing we have in common is a strong tendency to be mavericks. Despite his keen intelligence and creativity, his life in the shadows at the periphery of our society is radically different from mine.
Those are the top 10 factors that I believe contributed to my success. Delete or modify ANY of them and I wouldn’t be where I am today.
None of these circumstances or factors were of my own choosing or the product of my astute foresight and hard work. They were just the personal circumstances of my birth and my luck of the draw in the genetic lottery in which we all participated, like it or not.
I am most definitely not a self made man.
https://www.tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1889
I don’t think any of us are.
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Changing your environment can make a huge difference.
My kids are only 10 years old but I’ve already told them that the first time I even suspect that they’re sampling illicit drugs we’re picking up and moving back to Singapore!
Your kids don't like Singapore? I met a woman from Singapore in London last year, and she couldn't say enough good things about the city.
Going through life the fact that I had two parents that gave a shit about me, I really hit jackpot with that.
My kids were only 4 years old when we returned to the USA from Singapore. They are now 10 years old and have only faint memories of living in Singapore or Jakarta.
They primarily remember living in high rise apartments over there instead of in a honking big house on 3/4 of an acre like we do here in suburban Houston.
I doubt if they really understand why I think Singapore would be the place to go to protect them from drugs.
I like Singapore a lot except that it has become such an expensive city to live in. We can live much better in suburban Houston for a lot less money than it would take in Singapore. A decent apartment in Singapore 1/4 the size of my home in Texas would be twice as expensive.
But if that’s what it took to keep my kids drug free, I’d move the family back there in a heartbeat.
Muddy9,
The right sort of people as parents (or at least as parental figures) in your early life are surely among the most leveraging factors in a person’s success educationally, financially and socially (including in our sexual relationships). We emulate our parents during our adult lives including behaviors we don’t even remember our parents engaging in but that nonetheless became a part of our socialization.
Bad parents can fuck you up for life!
I don't feel I've reached my potential yet but I measure my success by the lives I've impacted.
“I don't feel I've reached my potential yet but I measure my success by the lives I've impacted.”
I presume you are referring to the number of bitches and hoes you have slapped around and introduced to drugs (as you previously advised others to do).
Car accidents don't count, sparky.
...Well once the sex change operation finishes up then you will very truly be a self-made man.
I do think some things, in combination, increase the “factor” of whether somebody is able to rise above their upbringing. But nothing is guaranteed.
A thought on the natural intelligence/confidence/perseverance. Parents can impact perseverance and confidence. There’s a pretty well known study by Carol Dweck that examined this.
Kids learn best by failure. If you constantly tell a kid she’s smart, she will attribute her success to something over which she has no control. When she fails, she will not persevere because “she’s not smart enough.” If you tell a kid that her success is due to her hard work, then when she fails, she will try to work harder and not be discouraged.
Those are the study conclusions in a very very abbreviated nutshell. You may disagree and it may not apply to everyone, including your own experience, but it’s a great read. I mention it in case it is useful in your own parenting. 🍻
I am familiar with the studies you refer to and I agree that it is better to tell children they were successful in their endeavors than to tell them their success was attributable to their superior intellect. But that’s definitely not what my parents did with me. I was fed a constant diet of “OMG! You’re so smart!”
I doubt they really had much to go on in their assessment of my raw abilities. They were too poor to have me tested and I doubt that I exhibited such talent that a formal IQ evaluation would have been warranted.
But in any case, I grew up believing that I was smarter than most and I think it aided me by giving me more self confidence and caused me to play up closer to my potential than I might otherwise have done.
But I’m not taking the same approach with my own children. I always emphasize that the difference between winners and losers in ANY competition whether it’s academic, athletic or business is not the talent levels of the competitors but who wants most to win and who is prepared to work the hardest to achieve that victory.
Pics or it didn’t happen.
You’re self made?
Really?
I wouldn’t admit that to very many people.
You really fucked up.
You might want to see an attorney and consider suing yourself for damages.
@nicespice I hate to nitpick but technically a surgeon would have made her a man, so again no bueno on the self made part.
I never bragged about sex tourism. In fact, I’ve never been a sex tourist.
I LIVED in Southeast Asia for 15 years. If I’d wanted to canoodle other than Southeast Asian women it would have been necessary for me to travel to do so.
You, on the other hand, advocate slapping women around, using drugs to subdue them and running trains on them with your buddies.
Based on the photos you’ve posted of the “bitches & hoes” you claim are your women, I’d say if you moved on to barnyard animals it would be a step up for you.
SJG
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You might discover this for yourself if you ever get the chance to leave your ghetto.
At a City Council meeting a month ago, one long term resident was saying that his son wants to be a school teacher, but then as things are now, that will mean that he can never own a home.
So I ask you, does that mean that this son should be looked down upon. By the upwards mobility ethic, he certainly would be.
SJG
As a clarification, I’m on my THIRD wife right now.
Well, I’m not actually ON her right now but I think you know what I mean.
I hope to remain married to this one for the rest of my life. In addition to being a marvelous, intelligent and funny lady, she is a terrific mom to our two kids and, best is all, she manages to put up with me (a high maintenance man)!
I don’t understand your second question. It seems to imply that I measure people by their financial success or by their lack of it.
That is not a view I subscribe to. The point of my post about self-made men is that people who are regarded by others as self-made men or women, or who regard themselves as self made are mistaken. I doubt if there really are any self-made men.
It’s probably true that some of my friends and relatives who regard me as a self made man are focusing on how I crawled out of poverty and became wealthy apparently, from their point of view, entirely through my own efforts.
Believing that the achievement of wealth is the best measure of success is a mistake (one most often made by people who aspire to wealth but who lack it).
Attempting to improve one’s financial status (or not) is a personal decision about life’s priorities. I would not look down upon anyone who made a conscious decision not to focus on improving his finances and to focus on other goals instead. Likewise, I would not look down on someone just because he wanted to become rich and busted his balls trying to achieve that goal.
I would, however, feel sorry for anyone whose sole mission in life was to become wealthy. I would regard that as a sterile and empty way to spend a life.
You may not believe it, but becoming wealthy was never a high priority for me. If it had been, I’d probably be a lot wealthier than I am. Wealth was just a welcome side effect of my “industrious” personality and my very simple, West Texas country bumpkin lifestyle and tastes that left me with a lot of extra money for investment.
We don't need people like that.
SJG
Actually, we do need people who achieve wealth and can then live entirely off their investment income.
Do you have any idea how many jobs would be lost and how low our standard of living would be if everyone had to try to make ends meet by working at McDonalds serving burgers, giving tattoos at an ink shop or blow jobs in a titty bar?
It wouldn’t be pretty I can assure you. I’ve lived in countries where there is very little capital available to create jobs and the populace is reduced to sitting around all day playing with their feet.
Those people dream of going somewhere they can find work. Those places are always places where there are some rich folks living off their investment capital.
THere is absolutely no reason our society needs that or benefits from that.
"Do you have any idea how many jobs would be lost and how low our standard of living would be if everyone had to try to make ends meet by working at McDonalds serving burgers, giving tattoos at an ink shop or blow jobs in a titty bar?
"
THe number is getting larger and larger, and it is caused entirely by this boom and bust cycle which started with Reagan gutting our progressive income tax.
It is not "capital" which creates jobs, it is consumer demand and consumer choices, and the collection and spending of tax money.. That money recirculates and powers our economy. Other wise we will go like third world countries and divide into the very rich and the very poor.
The US was not like this, much less like this. Now things keep getting worse. Started with Reagan.
https://www.amazon.com/America-Wrong-Don…
SJG
Economies are not as simple as people on the right or left would like us to believe. Books she’d some light on these complex issues but most of them are pushing a political agenda.
It’s not easy to do but it is very illuminating to travel the world and see for yourself.
I was lucky to do that and to not only travel to many countries with disparate political and economic approaches, but to live and work in them.
Growing up in West Texas I was led to believe that socialism in all its forms was inherently evil. I lived in some countries whose policies were heavily socialistic and discovered that socialism can work very well.
I also learned that unbridled capitalism spirals out of control if not tempered with policies and mechanisms for redistribution of wealth and empowerment through access to quality education.
But it is also plain to see that capitalism does the best job of creating both wealth and jobs. Countries that were economic basket cases but came roaring back to life are usually former communist countries that have managed to strike a balance between capitalism, market forces and sound, cost-effective socialist programs.
Most people on the right and on the left don’t like to hear this. It conflicts with their pre-existing policy prejudices.
I know.
It was difficult for me to admit that well informed and cost effective socialist programs were a good idea. But living in such societies for a few years made it impossible for me to deny the truth.
LMFAO
Economics aren't complicated. Justifying fucked up economic systems is complicated though.
Its all about being pragmatic..... you don't want change fine, capitalism can exist quite nicely within the frameworks of a sustainable development along the lines of something like social market policies....
The problem is, Americans interpret capitalism as the law of the jungle coupled with economic policies akin to slash and burn agriculture.... Hence the recessions, poverty, etc being viewed as normal by Americans.
Lassies Faire leads to disaster, it did in the 1920's, and it continues to when Ronald Reagan steered us a good ways in that direction in the 1980's.
There has to be Keynessian progressive taxation and spending just to protect Capitalism from itself.
But as it is now, America's politics revolves around scapegoating the poor, immigrants, and minorities.
The more money collected in progressive taxation and then spent, the more jobs. It really is that simple.
Entrepreneurship does not create jobs, it eats jobs. Just look at things like Amazon and Walmarts. Maybe some of these changes would have eventually happened anyway, but we cannot look to entrepreneurship as our salvation. People will engage in entrepreneurship for their own reasons. But promoting that should not be a matter of public policy.
Lots of third world countries have had some sort of Communism, but those were places with no tradition of Democracy, no widespread education, and wealth very concentrated. That such a regime would collapse is of no surprise.
The greatest purchasing power for the American working man was between 1969 and 1972, adjusting for inflation.
As agricultural, industrial, and information technologies continue to advance, we have to assume that an increasing portion of the population will not be supported by market wages in any way. Publicly providing for them though is what will keep our economy going.
Reagan and his people started us on the path to becoming a third world country. No good has come from that. Now we must reverse course and let the informed voters take us to Social Democracy.
Otherwise their probably will be another Civil War, and maybe disunion.
We already produce more than we need of everything. As Buckminster Fuller explained, we can provide every single person with a lifestyle beyond what even royalty enjoyed in past centuries. But the reason that we don't see this is because we expect everyone to prove that they can earn a living.
SJG
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My dad taught me how to apply a rigorous sense of work ethic in an academic setting, but not strategically, and he was a negative influence in many ways.
I attribute me getting into and studying at world renowned research universities to myself( rather than my parents )substantially .i think i was an outlier in the sense that i was able to excel during my youth despite not coming from a stable home enviornment.
People think that coming from a poor family is the greatest struggle, but coming from an unstable home environment is equally a great, if not greater barrier to conventional "success" . btw, financial instability and an unstable home environment are not the same. you can still be financially unstable but have parents who don't fight, teach their kids the same philosophies, teach their kids to be good and productive, etc.
In a few years, i plan to not only write about winning the undergraduate college admissioms game and excelling academically in college despite seeing a lot of abuse , but i will be able to say that i also became a law clerk for top notch federal judges !!!
# top of my law school class in a few years
# mic drop
#federal judge
# ok.bye
Does doing excelling academically at a good university make u hot shit? Hell no lol
Am i hot shit? Hell no...
Theres nothing 4 me to brag about since im still purusing the career i want to have, i am just crediting myself for having such an amazing career and personal compass at a young age . lol.
^ LMFAO sounds just like bragging.
And amazing career? Doing what? Dropping out of Cornell and dragging out being at UT while daddy pays for everything? At 26?
I guess that's amazing if you are gunning for "most entitled" accolades. LMAO!
And amazing career? Doing what?
I've had an amazing academic career with my grades . Pretty sure i mentioned that!:)
#top 10 %
# top 1%
#top 5%
And LMFAO academically you have dropped out of Cornell and you haven't graduated UT at 26 yrs old.
Not really "amazing" unless it is amazing entitlement. LOL.
That made things hard on the US, because we were so controlled by excessive oil use.
Reagan solved that though, by giving Saddam the Green Light to attack Iran. Donald Rumsfeld had been in Saddam's office when he ordered poison gas attacks on the Kurds
Delegates scrambled home from the last OPEC conference.
And then the US had started moving on solar energy and on more fuel efficient cars, under Carter. But Reagan scrapped that and soon the big cars were back. And it was Reagan who cut taxes and pushed us into insane military spending, and into never before seen monumental deficits.
And SKibum thinks that any working person is a "looser". He cries this out all day long from his bed in the nursing home.
And Nicole, the idea that a college education and doing well in college get you a good career and a good income is totally bogus. Sorry, college and education are good, but the idea that it has financial pay off is just wrong.
Lots of people would stay in school longer and take courses and undertake majors which challenged them more, were it not for this idea that college is about financial gain.
For our people, my organization will solve this.
Jimmy Carter got the wool pulled over him several times by that Petroleum Wing of the CIA, ie the Bush Family and the Underground Nazi Party.
But it was Carter who cut off the $1G per year to the Ayatollah to keep them in France, and then fired the Terpil and Wilson people, 700 career CIA. He did what was right.
But these were the same people who later would sabotage his hostage rescue mission, and it had also been the CIA who had convinced him to let the Shaw of Iran come here for medical care.
Carter tried to do what was right, but he was playing with ruthless and lethal people, and I don't mean overseas.
With the Born Agains turning against him because he was trying to enforce the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and with the Hostage Crisis, Ronald Reagan got elected, and it has been down hill ever since.
reverendhornibastard wrote,
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Those people dream of going somewhere they can find work. Those places are always places where there are some rich folks living off their investment capital.
"
Reverend, you think like a 3rd Worlder. Now admittedly this is what American is being turning into, starting with Reagan.
But most people don't want to live by brown nosing the rich. They want to use their skills and abilities to do things which benefit everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiDBjQ2U…
SJG
And LMFAO academically you have dropped out of Cornell and you haven't graduated UT at 26 yrs old.
Not really "amazing" unless it is amazing entitlement. LOL.”
It is an amazing career in accepting money from her father!
SJG
I love it when pseudo intellectuals get on their high horses on a strip club discussion board and feign moral indignation, especially when one of them likes to brag about slapping his bitches and hoes around or giving them drugs to keep them pliable.
You couldn’t make up shit this inane no matter how hard you tried.
Well, that’s what I heard!
@nicespice considering how old she is and how long daddy has been paying for her college, it really is amazing. A top 5% leech.
Reverend, instead of bloviating ad nauseum, work on your reading comprehension. You're just a pretentious little cunt who thinks he's smart for being long winded and who cheats on his wife with hookers....
What is broken is our economic system. We fix it by going more fully Keynesian, things like the Green New Deal and by UBI and by higher progressive taxation.
Right now, the talents of too many of our best young people are being wasted doing things which serve no purpose, except maybe to make the rich richer.
SJG
China was a mess for decades until they learned to leaven communism with some capitalism.
The USA has a mostly capitalist economy but also has socialist elements. They are clearly insufficient. We should learn from other countries how craft more effective socialist policies to soften our capitalist system to make it less harsh.
SJG
Umm no?
Sircumsinhispantsalot is the biggest troll here, yet the geriatric trick clique seems to be quiet about him....and TxTittyfag, and Meth Head Spice's profiles...
All you have to do is stop trolling the board and I'll stop trolling you.
But this concept is completely lost on you because you are so stupid you don't even know when you are trolling.
Most everyone is quiet about my trolling because they know who I troll by observation. And It's not them. It's only you, IceyDodo, and a few others.
LMFAO you even make my trolling more than it is. 😂🤣
The EU has nothing to do with US stupidity.
SJG