TUSCL's Idea of a Good Review
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I notice a thread here where members were talking about what is a good review. Here’s what we consider a good review.
Content and length are the two most important factors to consider. Your review should be at least 2 solid paragraphs, with 7-10 sentences each. The first paragraph should describe the club, the second should describe the dancers. You should also summarize with one sentence saying whether or not you would return to the club.
When describing the club, mention cleanliness, costs (cover, dance, alcohol), thug factor, vibe, music level, dj annoyance factor, etc.
When describing the dancers mention looks, attitude, ethnicity, hustle factor. You can also go into detail of the private dances. Just be careful not to mention names as it may get your ATF in trouble.
Basically think about what you would like to know from your good buddy about a strip club you’ve never been to. Think about the business traveler that is sitting in his hotel room with only time enough to hit one club in this new town. Let him know why or why not he should visit a particular club.
When composing a review, I suggest you do it in a word processing program, then cut and paste it to tuscl AFTER you spell check it.
Hope this clear’s things up.
F
Content and length are the two most important factors to consider. Your review should be at least 2 solid paragraphs, with 7-10 sentences each. The first paragraph should describe the club, the second should describe the dancers. You should also summarize with one sentence saying whether or not you would return to the club.
When describing the club, mention cleanliness, costs (cover, dance, alcohol), thug factor, vibe, music level, dj annoyance factor, etc.
When describing the dancers mention looks, attitude, ethnicity, hustle factor. You can also go into detail of the private dances. Just be careful not to mention names as it may get your ATF in trouble.
Basically think about what you would like to know from your good buddy about a strip club you’ve never been to. Think about the business traveler that is sitting in his hotel room with only time enough to hit one club in this new town. Let him know why or why not he should visit a particular club.
When composing a review, I suggest you do it in a word processing program, then cut and paste it to tuscl AFTER you spell check it.
Hope this clear’s things up.
F
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Most reviews are relatively worthless. They are just three or four sentences that rarely convey the essence of the club. I think they are merely written to get an extension to the author's VIP membership. So why allow those meaningless, short reviews?
Also - I usually read the reviews of a club I will be reviewing so if a member has written about the clubs layout or appearance, for example, I wont repeat that unless it was wrong or something has changed.
Also there should be some modest correlation between the rating number and the content of the review. Nothing worse than a review of "1" because a customer had a bad experience with one person, especially at the door. Second worse is a "10" without any interesting (believable) information about how the club earned that rating.
One thing I like a lot about TUSCL is the free format that Founder encourages. Some reviewers are very analytical and others very subjective. Both approaches are OK by me.
People who read these posts already know this, but discussing why you went to the strip club, how you were feeling that day, etc., is pretty pointless. Talk about the club, how you were treated, what attracted you or turned you off.
If Founder rejected short meaningless reviews, it would help the overall system. I see a lot of reviews that are pretty worthless. But it is his site and I sure do support him in how he manages it.
Also, when when reviewing a dancer's performance, if the review includes activity that is illegal of nature - or otherwise against the club rules, it's best to leave her name out of the review.
I know the comments at stripclublist.com cannot be compared to the reviews at tuscl, but someone writing on SCL has described the customers at Omar's in Lansing as "ghetto punks" -- so one reason I have avoided that place. (hint to chandler for a new review of Omar's)
Excellent advice that I sometimes forget. The perfect review for me would be of a South Florida club that says the ethnicity of all dancers is Asian, with little hustle factor. Haven't found that club after 40+ years of looking.
2. Chandler wrote: "I believe the principle to bear in mind is that a dancer gives you a private dance with the understanding that what happens is confidential. To give her name and say she gave a great dance is okay, most likely appreciated. To say or imply much more could betray a trust, just the same as if she called your SO or co-workers and spilled the beans."
About this, I disagree. I have a lot of points about the explicitness of reviews -- whether names, places, services should be mentioned here at TUSCL or not -- but I won't go into them here. I don't know if Founder would approve of discussion regarding the level of specificity in this thread. It's just not the place. But I would appreciate a location where we customers can further discuss what we think the appropriate degree of explicitness should be.
Maybe someone would start a thread ...
Oh, and......... founder is very very very CORRECT in advising not using your ATF's name if going into SEXUAL details! Believe me... I learned the HARD WAY!
However, I will use dancer's names' in description, attitude, etc, with no specific details about the dance (if it involves EXTRAS).
I like to see who is the most accurate, and possibly some surprises that I may have overlooked.
No...I don't think I'm the greatest reviewer ever, and I'm not slamming anyone who does the legwork to maintain their membership without paying. I'm lazy, I don't live in a town with a strip club, and $5 isn't a huge hardship for me. However, I don't think it's a stretch to think that a guy would type in a short blurb just to check the site out.
HappyLapper, I like that idea:
"I visited [CLUBNAME] on [DATE] from [ARRIVALTIME] to [DEPARTURETIME]. I paid the [$00] cover charge and ordered a [$00.00] [DRINKNAME]. I observed the [CLEANLINESS] and [THUGFACTOR] present, and heard the [LOUNDNESS] music and [ANNOYANCEFACTOR] DJ. Basically, I would say [CLUBNAME] has a [VIBEDESCRIPTION] vibe going on.
"I saw [QUANTITY] dancers working. They looked [LOOKSEVALUATION] and acted [ATTITUDE]." (And so on...)
That said, I prefer the way it is now, but follow his guidelines.
Being that I was required to write a lot of Reports of Investigations in the Army CID, I also learned to keep things in chronological order and keep straight with the facts. A special section in the "template" could be added to discuss opinions and recommendations. By doing these things, we can keep track of club changes, such as cover charges, alcohol prices, dance prices, etc.
I will post much more if few or no reviews for a club.
I'm not sure if this was a "dig", "Clubber: Your point repeats (ironically enough)...", but this was not a club review, which IS, ironically, what we ARE discussing.
If you go into detail about exactly why their dances were better, well then you might want to give a general description of the girl rather than her name.
By the way, the mistake most reviewers of bad clubs make is focusing on what a physical dump the place is. Who cares? Everybody knows that many of the best clubs are shitholes. What we wanna hear about is how fat and ugly the strippers are, and how obnoxiously the customers are treated.
When I read a review of an unfamiliar club I want to know: what kind of a place is it (eg. how big, how fancy, how expensive, how friendly is the atmosphere, how loud is the music, what annoying festures are there, how safe is the area), what the deal is (what kind of dances are available, how much do they cost, how much privacy, how do you pay for them), and what are the girls mostly like (what type, how attractive, how friendly, how much hustle, how old.) Forget names, there's too much turnover and too much YMMV.
On the other hand, at a club that I might visit quite regularly, I can imagine myself being quite interested in another local reviewer's specific recommendations of specific girls. At Ybor Strip (back in around 2000 when I lived in Tampa), I would have wanted to know which girls were good bets for lappers, since the levels of service varied widely at that club at that time.
So, there is useful girl-specific information and less useful. I'd say, when in doubt, let the reader decide, but don't "out" a girl (as we've agreed on another thread, about how explicit a review should be) who happens to be servicing above and beyond the accepted "legal" (whether by club rules or by real governmental rules) standards of her location.
Girls: I write them down because it centers my experience. It's a shame to have a great time at an SC and want to tell everybody at TUSCL about this really cool chick who let me stick my cold hands under her armpits to warm them up but, damn, what's her name? Also, two of my favorites in the area supply girls through an agency, and that's created a stable roster of girls who've danced for years. It was easy to remember their names, and I continued that practice with other clubs. And when I vacation at a different city, I do write down the names of strippers given the thumbs-up here. Bottom line: I think reviewers should make a better effort to remember and list the names of girls that they'd recommend and not recommend, even if they could've flown off to another club.
Even though there is a high turnover in clubs, I might try to look up a certain dancer, based upon a review that I read. Not that I'm going to concentrate solely on looking for that girl, but it will definitely grab my attention if I by chance run into her.
I also like to "compare notes" with other posters, to see how our experiences with dancer X compares. On many occassions, I've emailed someone that mentioned a particular girl to get more details - details which shouldn't be mentioned on TUSCL for reasons being discussed here.
1. Somewhere on the tuscl site Founder says “Don’t believe anything you read here.†I guess that’s somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but it is good advice to take everything with a grain of salt. Of course that goes for what you read in the newspapers and watch on TV as well.
2. I think the free four week membership for a review is part of a very good business model. I doubt that there would be nearly as many reviews on tuscl if there wasn’t some incentive for posting. While some bogus reviews get through, I think it adds to the site to have such a large volume of reviews. You can usually tell if a review is bogus and skip it.
3. When I first read Founder’s post I though, “Geez, am I back in 8th grade English class?†To wit: “Your review should be at least 2 solid paragraphs, with 7-10 sentences each. The first paragraph should describe the club, the second should describe the dancers. You should also summarize with one sentence saying whether or not you would return to the club.†If that were the standard I had to meet, I’d never bother to write. I think Founder has some good points but the creativity of the writing is what makes it fun to read the site. It’s a good thing he doesn’t hold us to that standard.
4. Names: I often mention a dancer by name if I get an especially good or bad experience. I’ve never had the opportunity for much outside the rules or the law, but if I did I would not mention a name. I might not even include that in the club review for fear of getting the club in trouble. I never run into girls mentioned by other reviewers so it probably is pretty pointless but I like to boost the reputations of the girls who are good and warn others low-mileage dancers.
I think we all have to keep in mind YMMV and No. 1 above. Tuscl is a great site. Founder, keep up the good work.