How often do you enjoy DEEP FRENCH KISSING with strippers? Do you look for an EMOTIONAL CONNECTION? Are you looking to get SEXUALLY EXCITED? How much MONEY do you spend on strippers?
When a girl wants immediate back room FS, or immediate OTC, then DKFing becomes likely. And it also really surprises guys because it is beyond the norm.
Once a guy learns how to get girls softened up and to let both parties forget where they are, and to demonstrate generosity in the front room, DFKing starts to become probable, even though it is not otherwise common. Nothing guarantees that the backroom will be mind blowing, like a front room makeout session.
I do think it helps if one has gotten civvie experience in just softening girls up and in verbally coming on to them, and just getting it so that DFKing just happens, without having to discuss it.
1. Sometimes it is totally prohibited, but it is a girl who just does not care, and she is probably the one driving it. Like great DFKing to anyone who gives her $1.
2. Some places are dives, and so there is no great privileged to work there. So staff learns that if they want the women to keep showing up, just have to let them do things their way.
3. In some places the girls are already tipping out the bouncers, so they have bought the right to do things their way.
Here in South Bay LE would say DFKing is violating the law. But in San Francisco I don't think LE would ever claim that. It is more a rule of the club and of the more conservative dancers. But some other dancers really don't care. The more FS of an operation it is, the more likely that girls are used to DFKing any time a guy wants it. No big deal for them.
Had Deja Vu girls recite the "I don't kiss" speech, only to be demonstrably reversing themselves shortly there after.
Some girls just use that to make it happen, get the guy into the back room without horsing around. And then some girls, they will do it if the guy is nice to them and then just kisses them.
Only in some clubs is there a real commitment to close regulation.
In AMPs, the SF girls do more FS than South Bay. But as such they are also more accustomed to DFKing.
Bouncers don't necessarily really care, nor necessarily do the owners, not in all clubs.
Most of the time if there can be girl on girl action, that will involve kissing, and in my experience !!!! that does encourage girls to go along with guys kissing them.
I would say that very often if a girl is trying to make OTC happen with you, she will be quite open to kissing, if not initiating herself.
And then often she will be pressing forehead to forehead or getting an arm around your neck and nuzzling.
In some clubs such is prohibited, but in others like our underground circuit it is not so clear.
If she is doing these things, then she is far less likely to decline kissing.
More than anything it just depends on how you do it. A lot of times you can get a girl to be doing something she really did not intend.
In our underground circuit I would usually start them off with open tongue kissing, for show, as girls sometimes do on stage, and to let her stay presentable. But if it intensifies,then full DFKing.
Most of the guys sex workers deal with, they will never see a second time, and they know this. So if this is not you, find a way to honestly let them see that.
Only once have I made out with a dancer.....I was feeling pretty buzzed and happy and told her I wonder what her kisses feel like. We made out during the lap dance but I didn't try to take it any further. I had talked to her most visits but didn't always get dances from her. Maybe we both let our guards down for that short time. I dunno.
not a fan (yes I've done it a few times, never initiated). You never know if any of them has herpes. Or an open sore....which can also create herpes. Either way, not a fan even if her lips are tempting. Are rubber lips a thing yet?
In the organization I am building, there will be multiple kissing booths at our various establishments, including one in the front room, equipped with Listerine and breath mints. For a nominal extra fee, PLs will be able to fondle naked breasts and finger pussies while making out.
I just to do it commonly in my younger years. Its fun if you know the girl well and its the beginning of her shift. In fact Ive found the experience to be the most fun at the beginning of any girls shift. They have more time to spend with you and smell real fresh. These days it rarely happens. GFE type dancers are hard to come by in my area.
Recently one sexy dancer gave me a deep French after 30 min VIP is over. She gave it all of a sudden which was unexpected. I can pay $200 for 30 minutes if a sexy dancer French kisses me all those minutes.
Many years ago back in the 80’s there was a strip club in Raleigh, NC that only had stage shows, no private dances, no poles. The girls got tips by kissing the customers. The better the kisses the better the tips. Some of those girls could really kiss. I guess I was lucky I never caught anything. In recent years I can only think of one dancer who gave me more then a quick peck on the lips.
If I wasn’t pretty damned sure where her mouth had been before I took her back, I’d probably enjoy it. I don’t quite believe them when they tell me they’re only doing this for me. lol
I have done it a number of times with a couple of different dancers. I do it with my current fave every time we do VIP. No emotional attachments because "I ain't the one". I'm not looking to date or be with any of them but it does enhance the GFE during the dance.
Getting girls quickly and easily DFKing, and in general getting under their skin is something which takes practice. Not everyone has tried to learn this.
More and more, I am seeing that in both the US and the TJ clubs, people go their and find what they want to find.
I have only DFK’d one time with a stripper about 20 years ago. Totally unexpected by me. She literally wrapped her legs around me, pulled me in tight and kissed me for a long 5 minutes. She wanted no tips, no drinks, nothing. Just kissed me long and deep.
Front room is how you put on a show with the girl, it is also how you make it happen in a more civilian way because no service for fee type stuff has been agreed to. This will all pay of for as long as you know her, and in the back room the first time.
Talking her into the back room without the front room makeout session (FRMOS) is a chumps game.
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I still have yet to see DFK at a strip club....
SJG
Once a guy learns how to get girls softened up and to let both parties forget where they are, and to demonstrate generosity in the front room, DFKing starts to become probable, even though it is not otherwise common. Nothing guarantees that the backroom will be mind blowing, like a front room makeout session.
SJG
If you don't like the women who dance in strip clubs, then just stay away from them.
SJG
SJG
Kissing is something which happens when the parties feel it right. It should not have to be discussed.
You learn to do this first in civvie situations. But you also learn to do it with strippers that you like.
SJG
When the club has girl kissing, it really does help.
https://www.tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1456
SJG
1. Sometimes it is totally prohibited, but it is a girl who just does not care, and she is probably the one driving it. Like great DFKing to anyone who gives her $1.
2. Some places are dives, and so there is no great privileged to work there. So staff learns that if they want the women to keep showing up, just have to let them do things their way.
3. In some places the girls are already tipping out the bouncers, so they have bought the right to do things their way.
Here in South Bay LE would say DFKing is violating the law. But in San Francisco I don't think LE would ever claim that. It is more a rule of the club and of the more conservative dancers. But some other dancers really don't care. The more FS of an operation it is, the more likely that girls are used to DFKing any time a guy wants it. No big deal for them.
Had Deja Vu girls recite the "I don't kiss" speech, only to be demonstrably reversing themselves shortly there after.
Some girls just use that to make it happen, get the guy into the back room without horsing around. And then some girls, they will do it if the guy is nice to them and then just kisses them.
Only in some clubs is there a real commitment to close regulation.
In AMPs, the SF girls do more FS than South Bay. But as such they are also more accustomed to DFKing.
Bouncers don't necessarily really care, nor necessarily do the owners, not in all clubs.
SJG
SJG
And then often she will be pressing forehead to forehead or getting an arm around your neck and nuzzling.
In some clubs such is prohibited, but in others like our underground circuit it is not so clear.
If she is doing these things, then she is far less likely to decline kissing.
More than anything it just depends on how you do it. A lot of times you can get a girl to be doing something she really did not intend.
In our underground circuit I would usually start them off with open tongue kissing, for show, as girls sometimes do on stage, and to let her stay presentable. But if it intensifies,then full DFKing.
Most of the guys sex workers deal with, they will never see a second time, and they know this. So if this is not you, find a way to honestly let them see that.
Business cards go a long way.
SJG
SJG
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/arc…
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/arc…
Drench-a-Wench and the Kissing Booth
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/f…
But it would go way beyond what was intended, so when the fair was corporatized, the kissing booth was dropped.
SJG
I can pay $200 for 30 minutes if a sexy dancer French kisses me all those minutes.
SJG
Select the girl you want, the one you want to be waking up with in the mornings.
SJG
https://www.fleshlight.com/collections/f…
SJG
SJG
More and more, I am seeing that in both the US and the TJ clubs, people go their and find what they want to find.
SJG
Pick the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with and go for it.
SJG
Foreigner - Waiting for a Girl Like You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wln6NX0V…
Edwyn Collins - A Girl Like You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqJ0JpM…
live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-kZi2DD…
SJG
Hell no.
Yes.
Way too much.
Do I have any takers at 20, or maybe even 30?
Hooray for browser keyword searches.
Talking her into the back room without the front room makeout session (FRMOS) is a chumps game.
SJG
Daniel Castro - I'll Play The Blues For You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioOzsi9a…
Consider:
Biopower : Foucault and beyond / edited by Vernon W. Cisney and Nicolae Morar (2016)
and
Michel Foucault : key concepts / edited by Dianna Taylor
I’ve got the over on 20 times by the time this thread dies.
If you don't want that, or if you are married, then stay away from other women.
SJG
san_jose_guy - commonly referred to as SJG this forum member is usually mocked or ignored, his comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate
Obsess much, Lloyd?