What It's Really Like To Be An Escort (And Why I Prefer It To Stripping)
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An interesting article in which a woman explains why she prefers escorting to stripping.
https://www.yourtango.com/2019323217/wha…
https://www.yourtango.com/2019323217/wha…
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That is not true of me lol. I absolutely love having my clothes smell like a girl's perfume so I can smell it in the car while I'm driving home and remember the night I just had.
Yeah, I can imagine the benefits of the lack of mindgames, from either end of it.
Another good reason to take care of your CF, perhaps :)
PRICING
$350 to $1000 is doable as a dancer without having to resort to hoeing. When a dancer starts to hoe, its a move down, not a move up. A hot dancer can finesse men without having to put out. Its all about doing the least with tricks, for the most money.
DRUG CULTURE
Hoes use drugs just as much as dancers if not more. Hoes usually resort to full time hoeing coz their drug use interferes with their stripping. How many hoes run to their dealer right after fucking a trick lmfao
MARKETING
Its easier to market herself at a club than online. Quicker money.
APPEARANCE
Being a hooker who advertises online doesn't make her classy. There's nothing classy about hoeing and nothing classy about tricks.
MAKEUP
Saying a hooker's makeup is classier than a stripper's is inane
TYPES OF CUSTOMERS
A trick who chooses to solicit her online instead of on the street or in the club lol But yeah I guess you can say one on one with a hooker is more discreet than getting a lapdance on the main floor... But I don't agree that getting a lap dance is "sleazy" while soliciting a hooker online and taking her to a hotel is "classy"
APPOINTMENTS
Hookers don't really have flexible schedules. They have to be ready to fuck when the trick wants so they can make their money unless they want to be out of pocket.
DISCRETION
How the fuck is she discrete if she's advertising online? Also, if being a hooker makes her so classy, why doesn't she tell the guys she sees or her roommates that she's a hoe?
INDEPENDENCE
Giving a cut to the club is like being pimped, but giving a cut to escort agencies is a good way to start? LMFAO And rarely is there such a thing as an independent hoe.
VULNERABILITY
This is bs. A hooker seeing a trick on her own is way more vulnerable than a stripper working inside a club. An independent hooker is the most vulnerable to dealers and pimps, not a stripper lol
IDENTITY
If she's so proud of being a hooker coz its so classy, why does she need to hide her identity? And working in a city like Vegas or some place with tons of strippers and clubs, you're way more anonymous.
The article sounds like some stripper web hooker trying to legitimate her low self esteem having ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcoH4d_K…
Its $350-1,000 an hour. Not per night, that's the major difference. Those numbers are practically unheard of in stripping. That's more like a "per night" thing.
That being said, $500 is definitely high end. I won't pay for anything above $400 an hour. Quite frankly, $400 an hour is pushing it. I especially wouldn't be inclined to accept those kind of prices from an escort working independently because there's not much justification for setting the price that high. If she was working for an agency it would make sense but if the escort is working independently, then $300 is perfectly reasonable. There's no reason to set it at $400 or $500 an hour as an independently working escort unless you live in NYC or LA.
What CC99 said in his first post in this thread applies to me too
Not just for her -- as I said, if you've been around long enough, you know the flow of girls is from strip clubs to escorting/bodyrubs, and very rarely goes the other way (not counting strippers who tried to escort, failed at running their own business, and went back to stripping). It might not be the right move for everyone, especially if they can't or won't run their own business, or they won't do fs (escort) or hj (bodyrubs), but the flow in the industry is to move *up* to escorting/bodyrubs to escape the toxic environment of the SC. I might guess that the article wouldn't apply to street hookers or the low-end backpage girl (I wouldn't really know), but otherwise a good summary of why strippers become (at least midrange) escorts/bodyrub girls, but the opposite rarely happens.
The so-called high end escorts get recruited by pimps/"agencies"/"agents"/etc whatever you wanna call them... when they're pretty young. And they become washed up pretty early, there are always prettier younger girls out there. By her mid to late 20s, a "high end hoe" becomes a regular hoe unless she steels a client list or has a few sugar daddies...
Note, of course, for a stripper to move to bodyrubs or escorting, she has to be open to FS or HJs at least; she may well have gotten her start doing this ITC or OTC. A stripper who is uncomfortable with any extras at all, has few other options besides camgirl (which many do) or pro domme (which requires higher skills and has demanding clients, so not always an option). Or, as a huge % do, she can pick and choose who she has sex with by going to SA -- in my area at least, SA is full of strippers (along with escorts, college girls, regular girls down on their luck, etc). Nearly every stripper I've spoken with, in the strict no-extras SCs I go to, are either on SA, or have tried it.
And that's where your high end girls have a huge advantage picking their clients. But the club does provide safety and security.
Yes but our team winning team member wants us all to believe that his/her version of strippers and clubs is the definitive one he’ll make outrageous claims and keep throwing them out until people forget where they heard it and that’s where perception become the common opinion. However flawed it might be.
The myth of the happy hooker is just that...a myth.
if a girl is working 8 hours, talking to dozens of guys, getting pawed by most of them, fighting off the worst of them, and then only taking home 200-300 at the end of the night, an offer of 200-300 to come hang out with me instead, get dinner and drinks, and then get pawed by one guy looks pretty appealing
This is just my experience others may differ
But I've managed to turn every dancer I really liked....as a person too not just looks wise, into a girlfriend, side bitch or at least a hook up.
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
From what I've read online, if you pay an escort like $400 for an hour and she works for an agency. The assumption is that $80-100 of that will go towards booking the hotel , between $80-120 is the agency's cut, and the escort herself keeps like $200-240.
I think that's pretty reasonable. If an independent escort was to book a hotel room without an agency, if she charges you $300 and it cost her $80-100 then she'll get to keep $200-220 of that.
On a per hour basis, $220 per hour pays better than many of the best jobs in the country. Working 40 hours a week, and that would come out to $456,000 a year. Assuming more typical escort hours of 7-10 hours per week though, and it still comes out to $80,000-115,000 per year. That is really really good money for what is actually 2 hours or less per day of work with weekends off. In my area, this is enough to make a house at least this nice very affordable...
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/F017P5/leonard…
But someone could probably buy something more like this with that...
http://tecnicosya.info/wp-content/upload…
Part of me just feels uncomfortable with the idea of somebody making a six figure salary and not even having to work a 10 hour work week to get it. American prostitutes are already paid a pretty high income in comparison to European prostitutes so an American prostitute charging $500 an hour just feels obscene.
I know plenty of strippers/hoes. Why do you think they live at home, with roommates or in weekly motels unless they have another job?
Its actually fairly common in middle class neighborhoods to find out that a single woman living by herself or cohabiting with someone is a prostitute. When it does happen its a scandal but its not necessarily rare in neighborhoods where people are up in each other's business a lot for neighbors to find out that somebody is a prostitute.
Its not common for a hooker with no other means of income to be renting her own place.
You try getting an apartment without a cosigner or proof of income
Also even though sex workers (mostly strippers and escorts, but also to a degree camgirls/porn actresses and "masseuses") make a lot more than average per hour/shift/day than the average worker, especially with their skills and qualifications, sex work is always inconsistent and being paid in quick substantial cash just lends to a lack of discipline in saving/investing. Also the shorter amount of hours worked tends to result in a lack of work ethic, so these girls, unless they have a very disciplined and business oriented mind, almost never make the well above six figures per year that they are capable of. Never mind that the average sex worker probably lasts a lot less than a year on average...
CC99, you're talking about what if scenarios.
Reads like her exit strategy is to advertise and market herself as a madam and entice young, naive, desperate women to work as escorts for her because she's a self-confessed professional.
”If you are dissatisfied with stripping, do some serious soul-searching before taking the leap into escorting and decide if it’s worth giving a try. For me, it certainly was, because after a slow start, I brought in $13,000 my second month in the business, working less than ten hours per week in appointment time.”
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.
Why do the dirty work when you can con others into doing it for you and earn as much or more money?
Dirk, that's what we all presumed would happen. It's been a while now, has anyone seen it actually happen? It's a little harder to get g2 now, because fosta/sesta also brought down many -- but not all -- of the discussion forums. To the extent I'd be able to tell, I haven't noticed any influx of escorts back into the SC (which, as I've been saying, would be a last resort for any escort who'd moved to escorting to "escape" the SC culture in the first place -- very rare they're willing to go back. Double that in CA where the overall trend is out of the SCs in general). On the forums that are left, including a private invite-only forum, absolutely no escorts or bodyrub girls moved back to striping. Where people have noticed it is on SA; on SA forums, both SDs and SBs have noticed a big influx in escorts and johns since fosta/sesta and it's been a common topic of discussion. Has anyone else noticed anything different?
There are exceptions, but I think that when a stripper crosses the line into providing FS, a fuse is lit on how long they'll last as strippers. Once they decide to fuck customers, the next stage is deciding how to make the most money for the least hassle / risk.
My 2 cents...
I'm sure that there's a vast grey area.
LMAO but keep talking out of your ass, pimp troll persona!
And the guy who said the article sounds like its written by a wannabe madam trying to manipulate young girls, is right
^ More talking out of your ass. If a hooker is working in a strip club, that means she's a stripper that's crossed the line.
ROFLMAO do you even think before you post, dumbass?
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."