To the Owners of the HiLiter in Phoenix.....
azdd
On the prowl in Tucson and Phoenix
So I arrived at the HL about 9:30 tonight for a little fun, and a very official looking gent was scanning driver’s licenses. I told him I would gladly show him my ID, but I wasn’t going to allow him to scan it. Apparently nobody had ever refused before, and he looked befuddled. He asked another bouncer, and he said the owner now requires everyone to have their ID scanned to enter the club. I’m an older PL, dressed normally, no gang attire, no tats,no chains, no backward hat or baggy shorts. I told the door guy I’ve been coming to this club for more than 20 years, but he didn’t care. I told him I had $300 to spend in the club, but those dollars were about to walk back to my vehicle and leave. No dice. To the owners, this ID scanning policy is a deal killer for me. Also, I was there earlier in the afternoon, no scanning, and the club was packed. I’m going to text every HL dancer I know on night shift and tell them their owner’s fucked up policy kept my money out of their hands. Anyone who values their privacy at all, will tell the HL to shove their scanner up their ass and refuse to step foot inside. What’s next, scanning license plates on vehicles? Mark my words, the next time there is a shooting or other criminal activity, the police will want their list of scanned IDs to interview potential witnesses, and exactly how will you explain it when they show up at your job or your home?
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I won't be going to HL at night until this policy ends. If it means I never go there at night again, so be it.
Hmmmm
During the day, with much lighter attendance, a manual review of the ID ( and skipping IDs with old farts ) is good enough.
Every SF club (DejaVu owned) scans ID's, even the shitty clubs. I'm not really worried about it.
What's next scan your ID to go Walmart?
If they tried to scan my ID, I would walk away, plenty of other clubs and Brothel willing to take my money.
The rest of the year, the bouncers can maintain control without scanning IDs. Fewer people. More regular customers. A calmer atmosphere.
During March, I suspect, they need to scan to assure no fake IDs or underage people are getting through. Anyway, that’s my theory.
They said the talent wasn't good that day, and ended up at Bourbon St
The club has never, to my knowlege, used my scan for any nefarious purpose. If it keeps everone in the club safer, then I am OK with it.
ATAC, Pretty unlikely you'd have any knowledge though, don't you think? Every license scan goes into a database. That database may be accessible over the internet and is like backed up to a remote site. Everything I just said is a place where nefarious things can and DO happen.
You are, for example, giving employees more opportunity to collect your license info (which is enough in many cases to steal your identity); and the database and backup are opportunities for hackers.
I don't necessarily think it's the end of the world -- I sometimes go to clubs that ID scan, mostly because it's that, or don't go clubbing (although the ID scan is yet another factor in my more and more frequent choice to not go clubbing). But I recognize the not-insignificant risk. I also recognize that strip clubs have been banning customers for years, and enforcing those bans, before ID scanning started occurring
Interestingly, many who will not let their ID be scanned will give SA all types of personal information (name, phone number, credit cards). I think far worse could come of that.
I don't think custies stalking dancers is the norm, does it happen, of course, but not the norm - subjecting every custy to an ID scan bc of a few knuckleheads is overkill and overreach IMO
Then they charge you cover. Much rather have my ID scanned than pay $50 per visit.
Otherwise I won't set foot in HL for any other reason. And quite frankly, even with my fave I probably won't be there again for awhile.
I thought that a passport card would actually give up more info than a driver license would since you have to submit all kinds of info just to get one. But from reading the linked article above, nope. It gives up nothing. Only customs and border patrol scanners can get the info, which is actually stored on a chip in the card, not the barcode like a driver license
And the info on the front is quite basic.
So there it is. Passport card is the way to go IMO.
So even safer than I thought. No more DL scan for me. Wish I knew this before.
Anything they tell you will be a lie, so we have no way of knowing for sure, just guessing. I'd guess it eventually gets deleted (except any image that's moved to the banned table), since it's a strip club, they're not going to spend a ton on infrastructure