How Young is Too Young?

Eh. I'm 39 and although 24 is my ideal, I wouldn't say no to a hot 18 year old with a good attitude.

Pistola's age preference is on track with my own.

If you need to do a Google search or check two forms of ID to confirm that a woman is "legal", that's problematic.

If she is not old enough to legally drink then she is too young for me. In Canada that is 19 in some places.

How old you are has no bearing on whether you find a female attractive of any age. How you react to it might.

General I do find more mature women attractive, but I think that's simply more an issue of life experience. There are absolutely beautiful women who were 18, 19 or 20, and I don't mind getting a lap dance from them, but more than that probably wouldn't happen. I'm 54 and it used to be half your age plus 7 of was the ideal age for a woman. I probably find myself attracted to women between the ages of 27 and 31 I think at that point physically they look great, they are confident in themselves, and they know how to fuck.

Lol I agree. All these 50+ year old pedos that prey on the barely 18 girls disgust me.

Finding a girl attractive vs having sex with her are two different things. I can find a 16 year old as attractive. But no, I am not going to jail no matter how good looking she is.

My target age is probably late 20's. Even though a young girl is nice to look at, I don't necessarily want to speak to her. Don't have much in common with a 19 year old.

I generally prefer the dancers that are mid-20s to late-30s.

@blahblah
I don't think you would have been very enamored bi the late @VinceMichaels

Lots of peer pressure on a site like this to say that 18- or 19-yr-olds are not physically attractive. As if that makes you a pedofile if you find them physically attractive. Take an anonymous poll, and you'll find out the truth very quickly.

But it depends. For a spouse or SO I think anything over +/- five years age difference is pushing it. My wife's 2 yrs younger and I wouldn't want to be married to someone a decade or two younger.

Situation is completely different for something paid and short-term like an SB and I wouldn't consider an SB 40+. And at the opposite extreme, late teens (18, 19) can be boring and self-centered. Lot's of evidence that the brain is still developing until age 25 and female's brain development occurs about 2 yrs sooner for women than men. I prefer SBs in the 21- to 23-year age rage, seniors or recent college grads. Pure physical animal attraction is there, and enough maturity so there's something to talk about.

You really can't tell a girl's age nowadays. I've met girls at parties or clubs before, and then you see them at the store with their moms. Too many underage chicks with fake IDs around.

Then you get chicks in their late 20s who look like they're in their 40s, early 20s like in their 30s.

Oh, I didn't say they aren't attractive. I just have found that they don't usually provide the SC experience I look for.

I've mentioned many times on here that I don't generally target the dancers I think are the most physically attractive. They do have to meet a threshold in that department, but if tgey do I tend to treat them the same.

she hasta be at least 18.

To each their own and not everyone is attracted to the same thing - as soon ad I saw the title I assumed a few would get on their pedestal and loudly and proudly proclaim how they would never be with an 'X' age girl bc they have such incredibly high morals and they want everyone to know how moral they are in that "they would never go there" and that anyone that does "in their opinion" is "much less of a human being than they are".

There are teenage girls that fuck on a more regular basis and with more guys than many adult women - besides the legal issue, as long as she's not being coerced and is down for it, then I don't see a huge problem - many women in the sex-biz (porn, etc) often started b/f 18 especially back in the day when things were less enforced and getting fake-IDs was easy.

If young-looking girls are not your thing, cool - but don't get on your fucking soapbox and start lecturing about your incredibly high morals.

This is a general statement based on previous posts throughout the years and not aimed at any one particular poster.

Even as a kid, I was usually way more into MILFS (30+) than younger females - I assume in part bc I've always been much more attracted to voluptuous-women and often times older women are more filled-out.

For me I've always been more turned-on by women that look like women vs girlish, not necessarily bc it feels creepy to find a younger girl sexy/desirable, but mainly bc I just like women that look a certain way and the innocent-looking GND type has never done much for me - in the SC I often turn down GND types even though they're attractive bc they just don't move the PL-needle for me.

IMO, 2 people that decide to be with each other whether it's P4P or not, it's b/w them and not anyone else's business to judge - "let he without sin cast the first stone".

Of course one could advise on the matter but if it has nothing to do with you then IMO it's none of your business.

Of course if she's underage then the law is the law - but I think it's kinda ridiculous to say if she's 18 then it's all good but if she's a couple of months younger then the guy is some kinda predator.

-->"Here is my opinion, if you're nearing or over 40, gals under 21 shouldn't be attractive to you"

That's a nice theory, but IMO is practically delusiona and likely millions of years of evolutionl; some guys here may pretend women 18-21 aren't attractive, but they are fucking attractive. Agree with Rando, an anonymous poll will reveal the (incredibly obvious) truth.

That said, I am MUCH more like to pick a stripper or SB who is 21 and up because: 1. I want to drink with them, without having to hide it, worry about their fake ID, etc., 2. obviously enough, younger women are more likely to act immature (because they ARE less mature). I do not automatically rule out anyone who is 18+, but skew heavily to 21+, for most often for reason #1, but occasionally for reason #2.

I don't think its wrong, but there does come a point where its sad. When you're an old man who pays young girls to let him grope them, knowing its the only way he can touch them.

^ Why don’t you shut the fuck up you put us on ignore, you’re just boring.

As long as they can vote! I need a hot teenage strip
er in my life!

Fucking a minor is wrong, whether she is promiscuous and goes after it or not. It's predatory and amoral. Adults that knowingly pursue that should seriously consider therapy to help suppress those urges.

"if you're nearing or over 40, gals under 21 shouldn't be attractive to you."

Who died and made you judge of what other people should find attractive?

This is all a bunch of bullshit, and merely opinions formed by peer pressure and political pressures. Let’s not forget what we are; let’s not forget the fundamental reality of our existence:

We are animals. Your DNA doesn’t give a fu k what your left or right wing agenda is. Sure, you can look away from the hot girl so you won’t get a boner, but that’s merely social programming, a mask, a deception. Use that “w” word all you want... Wrong.... as if Zeus will strike you down with a thunderbolt from Mt. Olympus.

Or you can stop making shit up.

For me, an attractive woman is an attractive woman regardless of her age.

However, there is a huge difference in finding a woman attractive, to wanting a buy a lap dance from her, to wanting to date her, to wanting to just fuck her, etc.

For me, age is not so much a factor but what I am looking for: a good lap dance, it doesnt matter as long as she I'm attracted to her but dating I prefer a mature women, and if I'm looking for a one night stand a consenting adult who I find attractive is just fine.

^ Exactly.
If that 17 year old gets your dick hard when you look at her, you need to learn how to control your urges.

If she sits down next to you and whispers that she wants you to make her feel like a woman, you are repulsive if you follow through and have sex with her.

Not an opinion, it's a fact.

Fucking sickos.

I believe the really old bastards love the really young girls more for naivete and that they dont understand they are an easy target and dont understand the true nature of men or how to even put them in their place and dominate the interactions. Either way it is wrong and disgusting no matter how you slice it.

I see way more girls in their 20s and 30s that make me go "daaammmn she is hot!" Than little 18 year olds honestly

If I use the formula of half my age plus 7 years. I would have to find strippers that are 45.5 years old. I think that would be slim pickins.

if you're nearing or over 40, gals under 21 shouldn't be attractive to you."

Who died and made you judge of what other people should find attractive?
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Nobody, but if someones dick gets hard looking at females that haven't fully developed, I think that person needs help. There is something in the brain that should just say no.

@blahblah
>I see way more girls in their 20s and 30s that make me go "daaammmn she is hot!" Than little 18 year olds honestly<
I’ve been saying that for years, don’t know what you consider really old bastards tho
;))

BTW naïveté is cute and childish, but I’d hardly consider it sexy, it really doesn’t move me sexually.

So...posttrolla created a “serious” thread to set up his digs, and his vincemichels account made the punchlines.

Well played.
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Anyways, like it or not, it’s pretty common. I would know. Even though I’m in my mid20s, I appear younger than that and attract a lot of customers who like the 18-20 year olds.

So 56 is out of the question?

Shut up spice. Yeah I'm Vince too now. Lmao you're so confused in the head. Im not surprised, most Philipinos women have at least 10% crazy in them. Stop projecting on me because of your guilt of having multiple troll accounts on here. I dont need any troll accounts to speak my mind obviously. Keep on making up conspiracy theories!! Sounds like you want the D!

Not for me, judy. My ATF is 48!

Nice to know.....sometimes some older cars ride better than the newer ones!

^^^^ "This is all a bunch of bullshit, and merely opinions formed by peer pressure and political pressures. "

It's an anonymous forum. Why would anyone feel peer pressure?

What Random Logic said.

Some of you are back on that creepy shit again. Adults should not be fucking children. Full stop. Quit trying to explain it. There's your answer. Thanks for coming god bless and good night

"most Philipinos women have at least 10% crazy in them"

Having been around Filipinas my entire life, I would say this anecdotal observation is in line with mine. They'll tell you it's because of men, though.

Well to be fair u silly cavemen are the root of all problems >:(


Ok maybe more like 90%

It's because 90% of crazy bitches have the best pussy.

As far as age, I'll appreciate and have sexual attraction for any fully developed woman. I'd get a lapdance and see a stripper as young as 20. I'd have actual sex with a woman as young as 25(ish).

Fucking predators!!!

If she can get away with using a fake ID.... don't ask don't tell... if we're talking kids though, that's sick.

If she needs a fake ID she is a kid.
I'm sure you are plenty familiar with don't ask/don't tell. HOMO!

It's not about her physical maturity, it's the lack of mental/emotional development that gets preyed upon.

You fuckers are sickos.

youre a fuckin moron dougster “don’t ask don’t tell “ what a sick perverted bastard you are

In the US the legal age is 16 in Nevada in California 18.... in other countries, the age of consent ranges from 12 in Mexico to having to be married in Kuwait

^ why don’t you move to one of those other countries I’ll guarantee you fuck with a 12 year old in Mexico your headless body will be hanging upside down from a bridge.

I agree with the things IceyLoco has posted

SJG

^ Nice to have no responsibility for another human being, looks like dougster has brainwashed you into agreeing that there is no normal.this sort of bullshit is just a false narrative, Like I told you before, if you want to be taken seriously, by serious people, grow up !!

@DC : Fucking Retarded Loser
LeBron : GOAT

(and it has already been established that LeBron is the GOAT as a given)

I'm not saying I agree with 12 as a viable age of consent.... I posted the ages to just show the discrepancies in ages of consent and to show how culturally constructed they are.

Plus when you look at history, look at the history of child labor, or how the whole notion of being a teenager began as more of a marketing gimmick in the US.

Like most things, its not black and white and perceptions change throughout history or with legal changes.

So if you're nearing 50, a 31 yr old shouldn't be attractive to you by your logic... you can keep it.

@flagooner, I wasn’t referring to any peer pressure from this forum, in particular, i’m referring to the general peer pressure and social programming that every person in civilized society experiences. These pressure and social programming can be counter to our evolutionary programming. Do you realize that every single other creature on this planet shits in a carefree manner, often on the ground, without any regard to social convention or consequence.... but us humans... we have a very special chair in which we empty our bowels. And what do we call people who are SO DISGUSTING that they shit in the woods? We call them “animals!” “Such crude behavior!”

Flagooner, why don’t you go back to Heaven and sit on Zeus’s lap? I’m sure you’ll be far more comfortable there, where nobody fucks inappropriately or displays any animalistic behavior. Don’t worry, I won’t bother you with any prayers.

what Papi said.....

Pistola: If you are talking about out in the real world, I am in complete agreement with you. If you are talking about as a strip club entertainer - I call bull shit! In the strip club it's whatever floats my boat

Old enough to pee, old enough for me

Now drink some apple whiskey

@Flag no apple whiskey for the pedos lol

It would be a start.

And I’m flattered I get under peoples skin that they need to try troll me, thanks - I’m the troll biiiiaaatches

The bubble gum snapping airhead doesn't get it done for me (even if she's a 10). I prefer age 21 to 37 usually, but if my body is responding to what an 18 or 19 year old is shaking - conversation in a strip club is overrated. I do favor attractive MILF type over the Schoolgirl type!

^shut up Juice, When are you going to quit this website for the 73rd time?

Sammy go write a review

LOL

I said go write a review. Seriously, you can then troll me in the VIP. I heard that this weekend Founder is offering 10 coupons to Arby’s with every new VIP!

*drops mic on Sammy’s head
*hears hollow sound

And congratulations on spelling knob correctly or was that autospell kicking in?

^You have repressed fantasies of straight guys blowing you. Not normal for this site. I think all that Arby’s cheese has clogged the synapses in your brain.

^Im not the one with multiple troll profiles all talking about sucking and fucking dudes. Enjoy fappin to my ‘avitar’ tonight.

^ your mother does. Be careful I might be yo daddy soon son

^ clearly explains the Oedipus complex behind your troll personas.

Its okay, pistola is just playing hard to get, he'll give it up eventually.

"Be careful I might be yo daddy soon son"

Yas daddy.

That's just what some of these homophobes gotta do before they finally have the courage to come out of the closet.

^If you’re nice to me future son, I’ll let you play Fortnite 4x week and won’t charge you rent.

That was to Sammy, I don’t care about the wannabe trolls trying to comment.

Aw, sounds like you're in love.

Let me repay you the favor.

Juice just mad when his threads get 5 responses and his girlfriends moped must’ve broke down on the way to his moms house.

I'll let you ride my moped.

^nah you small minded country bumpkin, when I fuck your mom and move in and you call me daddy, I won’t charge your old ass rent and will let you play Xbox

How could BDS be Juice? Juice told me in a PM that he hasn’t trolled the board in months.

Sounds to me like daddy wants to provide for us.

Good husband material when he comes out of the closet. As good as they are in bed, I can't date a closeted man.

Anyway Sammy sorry your car broke down and you struck out on pof tonite. I’m off to the club to go find me a legit over 21 stripper. Nice chat son. As far as the other people trying to chime in and sucker punch, y’all weak.

I could become a legit over 21 stripper?

lol poor Juice getting blamed for stuff

The original question depends on a dancer actually telling you her actual age, and not lying. I automatically assume all dancers are untruthful.

Unless it's a club like Follies or Cheetah ATL that put fluorescent wristbands on those under 21 ..... how can you know?

They're not "untruthful" they're selling you the fantasy you're paying for.... Would you rather spend your time with a 34 year old with 3 kids who is worried about putting $$$ on her baby daddy's books.... Or a 24 year old party girl who is up for anything and is at the club coz she loves sex and is an exhibitionist and feels sexy dancing for you? LMFAO

Anyways, you can figure the age rules out according to your local laws...and the type of club and licensing.

Well that discussion thread certainly blew up into a rash of adolescent name calling!

When I was a young man, I found 18 year old women incredibly sexy. Now that i'm in my 60's, I realize what excellent taste I had as a young man!

"if you're nearing or over 40, gals under 21 shouldn't be attractive to you."

I think a distinction needs be made between strip clubs and real life. I'm in my late 50's. If I'm ogling 18 year olds at the mall, I am a lecherous old man. If a semi-nude 18 year old stripper approaches me in a club, then she is an entertainer performing a vocation she has chosen and I am just another customer.

My personal sweet spot is a 25 - 35 years old. Having said that, if an 18 year old who looks like she just stepped off the pages of a Playboy centerfold ask for a dance, I would say yes. If a 24 year old that looks like a JV cheerleader asked, I would say no.

My sweet spot has always been generally between 23 and 27. I usually went aftwr women in that age group even as a 18 or 19 year old. Most of the girls my age then were too immature for me or just dod not connect. I liked women okder than me then. Now I still seem to click with that same age group

I just have to come clean, I love the D and cant stop fantasizing about Sammy's dick. I really want to choke on that shit

I admit it. I am in love with Sammy

18 is the perfect age. Go back and read one of my DS sex stories if you don’t understand.

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Everyone is different. I’m about to be 28, and I don’t find 18 year olds attractive anymore.

I remember there was a discussion about this over a year ago, and before that and that...

Anyway, i also remember this article that said that most men preferred women between 20-23...
https://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-a…

And the discussion that the article was in:
https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php…

There's too much of a mental difference between an 18 year old girl and say a 25 year old man let alone between a 60 year old and a 16 year old. The drastic developmental difference is what makes it predatory and sick.

BS fishstix. I thought this was your junior year in HS.

I don't think it's grand moral superiority to be completely against adults having sex with minors, which is rape and pedophilia (my opinion... but supported by the law in many cases).

In terms of age limit set by law, I have no problem with that age being higher than it possibly needs to be, because that's far preferable than the age limit being low to the degree that it makes predation of children legal on the books. But I don't think that age limit is too high... 18 years old is absolutely appropriate.

In fact, I would completely support strip clubs having a minimum required dancer age of 21. It's not like 23 year-old dancers have colostomy bags and dentures.

This is my least favorite topic on this site, because it's always at least a little reprehensible. That some members here clearly enjoy skimming along the hairy edge of statutory rape is, at best, creepy as fuck.

And, as usual, if anyone here wants to give me shit for being the guy who is completely against sex with minors, go for it. I'll own it every day, all day long.

@CMI add to that the point that it’s really not informed consent, when there is such a vast difference between life experiences.

^^^ Agreed.

I think its a good topic, like the one about secretly filming naked bitches. It shows how sick some people in here are and how they're never called out for it. Only thing someone gets called out for is calling a trick a trick lmfao

www.twistmyrubberarm.com

^^^^^ Aint that wut l wears when hes abductin unsuspectin womens?