Every 2 months or so after getting stellar service at my regular spots I decide to roll the dice at a new club or an old favorite I havent visited in years. This decision always leads to instant regrets and I spend the next 2 months back at my regular spots. Well this week I got that itch and went to a place I hadnt visited in over 5 years. I was hoping for success, but an ATF from my early days eyed me immediately. She wondered why I hadnt come there in years and I made up a story about how I dont really club anymore. I really wanted to ask her to move on, but she was the best looking girl on the shift. So I agreed to take her back. The "dance" was ok, but towards the end she immediately reminded me why I hadnt been there in years. She asked for an additional tip while I was near release and when I opened my wallet her eyes darted around to ask for more. It wasnt breaking the bank so I gave her 10 dollars extra. This is one of my pet peeves with dancers and had the urge to say "this is why I dont come here anymore" or "do you know how much money you lost in the past 5 years from me", but I gave her the "be back soon" line. I felt bad for her walking back to my car and wished more girls knew the tricks to keeping regulars. I tip well and treat my current ATF well and the best feeling I have is at the end of the dance handing over a sum of money and not seeing them count it.
To be perfectly honest after 10 years of mongering I have just become so spoiled that anything less than a 10 out of 10 service is a bummer to me. In my early days I was silly and spread my time among many clubs for fear of dancers thinking I was wierd for coming by too often. After seeing some other regulars showing up to the same club twice in a day or 5 times a week i limit my club selection to 2 clubs where I tip very generously. I have even had girls at my favorite place try to hand me back a 20 which is about the most endearing thing you can due to me lol. An analogy of how I end my dances at my regular spots can be shown below. I prefer to give tips than have them requested from me.
https://youtu.be/-N_UuImPL4E?t=109
You shouldn't tip them anything you didn't agree to tip them in advance. "If you get me to come, I'll give you an extra $10." By giving them money when you don't want to give them money, you're only incentivizing them to ask for money at the times you don't want them to. Negotiate everything up front and maybe you'll have a better time.
ah yes, the nickle and dime, reminding pathetic losers of the fact that they're are getting their wallets drained dry every time they itch for some sex.
Funny how you will pay this girl what, $300, $400 for one night of sex when my video course could get you laid whenever you wanted for $249.99. But, continue being lazy.
^^^^Gentlemen, don't bother spending $250 for this guy''s mom's sex tapes when you can find them for free on Pornhub, like I did, under both the Chubby Matures section and the Interracial orgy section.
I've had girls who did work great ask for tips, but only in clubs where I'm not a known customer. If a dancer doesn't know if she's ever going to see that customer again, what does she have to lose? If it's my last night in town, I'll sometimes mention that if the vibe is right so we both know whatever happens is a one time thing.
-->"She asked for an additional tip while I was near release and when I opened my wallet her eyes darted around to ask for more. It wasnt breaking the bank so I gave her 10 dollars extra. "
NJ, I will suggest here that you're the problem... I mean, no customer likes getting asked for tips, but 100% of the time this happens, I say "no" -- if her performance were good enough that I wanted to tip, I would have tipped her before she asked. Nothing bad has ever happened to me because of it, and if anything, something good happens -- girls stop asking you for tips. In my favorite club, the girls pretty much know me, and in the past 3 years, I've been asked for tips from exactly 2 girls (turned both down).
As you know from my article, I think tipping a girl you don't want to tip, is giving in to your inner little bitch. I don't care what the rationalization is ("it was only $5" or whatever), the fact is, if you're tipping when you didn't want to, a 21 year old in her underwear intimidated you. Some clubs have more of an "ask for tips" culture than others, though; I recognize that.
I think you should keep going back to that club, convey a bit more command presence to see if they stop asking you for tips (they might, to an extent -- they absolutely ask more often if they think you're weak). If they do, with practice you'll get super comfortable saying no, and this will stop being a high-stress fight-or-flight episode for you. If you don't want to say "no thanks", even "No I don't tip, but express my appreciation with more dances later. thanks!" makes it feel a little friendlier.
I agree that it sounds like you aren’t as generous and important to these girls as you seem to think.. but- I also agree that asking for tips is rude and stupid. I’ve tested it out before after dancers telling me I should but IME- the guys who want to tip will tip and tip well. If you have to demand one it will probably only be a few bucks and the customer will feel hustled. Not worth it
-->" If you have to demand one it will probably only be a few bucks and the customer will feel hustled. Not worth it"
Some strippers have told me their policy is
- Don't ask club regulars for tips. Regulars can be a long-term source of income, and risking that for a $20 tip isn't worth it. And even if they don't become your regular, they're more likely to be assertive and say no.
- Do ask transient customers, guys-night-out guys, etc. for tips. Even if they feel hustled and don't come back, well they probably weren't going to come back anyway, they're less likely to say "no" even if they don't want to tip you, and those $20 tips can add up.
I don't have an opinion on whether it's worth asking transient customers, but can definitely see the point about not asking club regulars.
Good points Sub. In respect to saying "no" I tip a hat to any guy who refuses to hand $10 over to a girl who when performing billy joel. Personally, i saw this tactic as a "low blow" pun intended lol.
7 years ago I would have kept going to the club, but the service I get at my regular spots is too good to pass up. i personally just need to stop rolling the dice on new places when I get bored with my regular spots. Maybe its a good lesson for whenever i decide to settle down. The grass isnt always greener on the other side.
I stopped in a dive last night that i haven't frequented in years. The only good looking girl there remembered my from a different club i used to see her at over a year ago. She came directly to me. The conversation was awkward but she's hot, so I just asked for some dances to move things along. They were the best dances I've had in a while, and since it was a dive they were much dirtier than what can be had at the place she used to work. I'd have dipped her, but they dances were so good that I emptied my wallet on them.
I don't like being asked for tips. I tip when the service was good, and all else being equal, I prefer the girl whose eyes widen at a tip over the girl who asks for a tip. But that's just me.
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https://youtu.be/-N_UuImPL4E?t=109
Funny how you will pay this girl what, $300, $400 for one night of sex when my video course could get you laid whenever you wanted for $249.99. But, continue being lazy.
NJ, I will suggest here that you're the problem... I mean, no customer likes getting asked for tips, but 100% of the time this happens, I say "no" -- if her performance were good enough that I wanted to tip, I would have tipped her before she asked. Nothing bad has ever happened to me because of it, and if anything, something good happens -- girls stop asking you for tips. In my favorite club, the girls pretty much know me, and in the past 3 years, I've been asked for tips from exactly 2 girls (turned both down).
As you know from my article, I think tipping a girl you don't want to tip, is giving in to your inner little bitch. I don't care what the rationalization is ("it was only $5" or whatever), the fact is, if you're tipping when you didn't want to, a 21 year old in her underwear intimidated you. Some clubs have more of an "ask for tips" culture than others, though; I recognize that.
I think you should keep going back to that club, convey a bit more command presence to see if they stop asking you for tips (they might, to an extent -- they absolutely ask more often if they think you're weak). If they do, with practice you'll get super comfortable saying no, and this will stop being a high-stress fight-or-flight episode for you. If you don't want to say "no thanks", even "No I don't tip, but express my appreciation with more dances later. thanks!" makes it feel a little friendlier.
Some strippers have told me their policy is
- Don't ask club regulars for tips. Regulars can be a long-term source of income, and risking that for a $20 tip isn't worth it. And even if they don't become your regular, they're more likely to be assertive and say no.
- Do ask transient customers, guys-night-out guys, etc. for tips. Even if they feel hustled and don't come back, well they probably weren't going to come back anyway, they're less likely to say "no" even if they don't want to tip you, and those $20 tips can add up.
I don't have an opinion on whether it's worth asking transient customers, but can definitely see the point about not asking club regulars.
If i cum I'll easly tip $100 if she was happy about it
But if i don't cum and she wasnt even trying and she asked I'll quickly tell that bitch hell No lol
7 years ago I would have kept going to the club, but the service I get at my regular spots is too good to pass up. i personally just need to stop rolling the dice on new places when I get bored with my regular spots. Maybe its a good lesson for whenever i decide to settle down. The grass isnt always greener on the other side.
I don't like being asked for tips. I tip when the service was good, and all else being equal, I prefer the girl whose eyes widen at a tip over the girl who asks for a tip. But that's just me.