From 1 to 10, whats the best you could do without paying for it?????

Better than you for sure!

I got married, to a saint of a woman! One who can cook and take care of me in my old age and raise my kids before that happens, and she still brings home over $100k in bacon a year. Any questions??

Mic drop...

My wife is a 10. Being happily married is better than anything else on earth. Post her pic lol.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so for me she is a 10 regardless of what others think.

@Trapbaby - right back at you, but with a twist. From 1 to 10, what's the best that you could KEEP after they learn what a flaming BITCH you are and that your purpose in life seems to be getting on others nerves for your own pleasure? Somehow I believe it would be quite the challenge to keep anything better than a solid, desperate 3 or 4 after they got to know you.

I’d estimate a strong 4. But I don’t shoot for the 9’s or 10’s. I like them used hard and put away wet.

If I see a lazy eye - and she laughs at my jokes - I know she’s probably shit herself a few times recently...

Just do shine a little light ( scary for a troll I realize) I don't need to send you pictures of a few of them......you can find them in magazines or on the silver screen.........so if your intent is to try and put out that old tired line that the only reason guys go to clubs or see escorts is they can't find women without cash I'd take a long walk to clear your head....( just do it at night. I'd hate for the sunlight during the day to turn you to stone)

What could I take and how without cash today? At least a -2!

I did okay in my 20s -- but I would never get attractive 20-yr-olds at this point without paying. Age-appropriate women? I think I could still do okay if I were single.

Excluding college and highschool (because I was consistently landing 8 & 9 and every guy I knew was jealous)

Before I started paying for it I couldn't land shit not even a 0. Something happened after I started paying for it, I was able to land 7.5 to an occasional legit 8 without paying.

I guess if you're willing to pay for a 9/10 then subconsciously your probably think anything less should be free

+1 GACA

Had an civie overnight with a girl just last night I have known on and off for 8 years. Solid 7 or 8, 5'11' blonde athletic, enhanced E cup, bangin body and is about 40 years old. She is a professional regular massage therapist and has worked on me for years. I would say we just crossed over to FWB ;)

If she is drinking, I can get a 10 but if she is sober maybe a 5.

^^^when I'm not drinking 6, when I am drinking, always 10+

Stay drunk my friends

^^^ your mom is your fantasy territory...oooohhh burn

Personally, it's far easier to snag a 8 or a 9 without paying for it. Maybe it's just me, and this goes counterculture on Tuscl, ........ but it seems like you all have solved the "harder problem" first (get money, career) instead of the easier problem (which requires no specialized anything, or just common sense). I dunno. Maybe that's just me. Even DC9428 subscribes to this, though. It's just an observation.

Dominic I don't think it is only the money but it does come from the wisdom you gain as you are making money and building wealth. I'm sure there is a better way to explain but the decisions you make for a career, life choices, etc. give you a better perspective and confidence around women.

Most women wouldn't admit it but 9's have different issues that make them just as insecure as less attractive women. I'm far from an expert and I was lucky for whatever reason when I was younger. It wasn't until I hit my very late 20's I started to date and understood what the hell I was doing and why it worked for me.

It would be easier for someone to "ask" a 7-up out than it would be for me (or other broke BFs) to come with with the $300 to pay for sex and $100 to buy a hotel room, once, not to mention consistently. But I don't want to focus on the money too much in this discussion.

For me, after a couple lucky starts at 15, then a little hesitation in confidence when I realized my upbringing (mother, etc) did not work when it came to women or dating, so I pivoted pretty quickly and figured out what did. I also figured out how to read women.

I think that is my thesis here. It's easier to learn how to real women, etc than it is to learn "the wisdom you gain as you are making money and building wealth. ...the decisions you make for a career, life choices." Here I'm 41 and still learning that stuff, whereas reading women (gaining confidence, better perspective, understood what the hell I was doing and why it worked for me) I sort of picked up quickly and while still fairly young and inexperienced at 15. That took, 3 months, tops. Maybe a few minutes with my approach on one pretty girl in particular. Whereas I'm still trying a build a career and wealth at 41 and still struggling. I can't explain why.

^^^ most men are very logical linear thinkers. Math, science etc. I would argue that your mind is more artistic in thinking (non-linear)

Women as a group fall into the latter category even though there are certainly a lot of STEM type females.

Your struggle to find a career is because your strength is your "feeling" intuition. You haven't felt a strong passion yet. Whereas most of the rest of us logically made decision where we "felt" them or not.

But this logical thinking is a detriment where it comes to being successful with women socially (for the most part), romance is often illogical

That's why we go to strip clubs, you want money I want pussy, let's do this.

Truth be told though, if most guys here knew how desperate most girls are for validation, and in what manner they'd like to receive that validation, then 25% of them wouldn't be in strip clubs.

The true PL love the scene and can't be happy without it

I've made it abundantly clear that I'm somewhat wroken in my ability to have an emotional commitment since the death of my wife so frankly this is easier from a. However if you go upon my early dating life I was pretty good at nabbing girls who were way out of my league. I out kicked my coverage with my wife as she was a runner up in the state beauty contest and I sure as h*** am not

Cashman, so you like ratchet pussy? Liking it dirty and freaky is always good TBH

Iam4u2screw @Trapbaby - right back at you, but with a twist. From 1 to 10, what's the best that you could KEEP after they learn what a flaming BITCH you are and that your purpose in life seems to be getting on others nerves for your own pleasure? Somehow I believe it would be quite the challenge to keep anything better than a solid, desperate 3 or 4 after they got to know you.

Ugh I have my pic of really successful attractive guys and alternatively successful ones. The more they know me the more hooked they get, dating me is like biting into a cookie and 2 hours later realizing it was an edible lol The one guy I kinda like is married though but still...............and a few others I just like to fuck aren't guys I want a relationship with. I'm also into girls but yeah

The more ratchet - the better! Some are happy to give it away - which makes it even filthier!

Cashman, yeah ratchet sex can be some of the best ever. I love pushing limits and shit some would find humiliating. I've had my share :x