LDK vs. HJ

For me an LDK is and accident when the girl is too hot and too good at her job, and I underestimate my stamina. I'd still rather have that than a HJ because I get more intimacy with a LD. I'm usually disappointed when the girl it too goal-oriented.

I would think an LDK would be better since its basically sex with your clothes on.

Actually reminds me a little of some of the sex I had in middle school. We didn't want to get pregnant so we just dry humped until we came.

An intentional LDK is much better than a HJ. And by intentional I mean you and the girl go into the LD room with the goal of LDK in mind. Why is a LDK better? Its because the majority of dancers can make you finish with a HJ, BJ, or FS. It takes some skill for a girl to get you to LDK. I also enjoy LDK because it takes more time for me and the majority of girls who do HJ or BJ can make the process feel transactional. I have never had a LDK after a "mechanical" dance

Even as a horny teenager fifty years ago, I have never come in my pants. I WISH I could shoot off because a pretty girl smiled at me, the way some of you hyper-sensitive seem to. It takes skin-on-skin to get me off...and a considerable amount of time. Having my shorts full of sticky stuff seems awfully inconvenient.

I think HJ is more arousing and intimate than an LDK. Since your cock is in her hand - and she’s stroking you to completion - I don’t see a comparison to an LDK.

I have nothing against an LDK, but it’s not an intimate act. In certain cases - it’s a mistake - and not a welcome mistake.

I respect LDK fans, as they find it highly pleasurable. It’s just never been my preference.

@dirtysecrets

You have to grind on it like you are actually having sex, there's just a layer of clothes between the two of you. I still crave the actual feeling of something being inside of me though.

I dont think anyone on here is actually doing a LDK right as well. I believe everyone has seen me post an explanation of what an LDK is, but its not just finishing in your pants. Its positioning yourself in such a way its like she grinding her lips or ass against your shaft.

I prefer LDK, because it's as close to sex without actually doing it. The same position, just two thin layers of fabric and you're not actually "in." I also like the titties in my face, maybe even kissing depending on the girl.

Handjob can feel like a mechanical service.

A nut is a nut

This discussion proves just how different PLs are from each other. I by far prefer LDK over HJ. To me its more intimate - hell you can do a HJ yourself. A nice sensual grind over thin slacks is gold. Espically when the girl gets into it to. Nude grinding is even better.

^^I had a girl that would grind her lips directly on my shaft for 3-4 songs. Sexiest way to LDK I have ever had. I once gave her the lewinsky treatment on her satin outfit and she had to run to the dressing room to clean up. Unfortunately the club had so many guranteed options that i never got her number. Havent seen her in ages.

For me it's LDK over HJ because it isn't something I try to do. On the occasions that it has happened it is because I've gotten so worked up that I was unable to contain it.

I’d assume that an LDK is preferable if getting extras is too expensive. Or as a loophole to cheating.

But it seems like only certain types of customers can control it anyways.

Extras aren't one of the options in this debate.

Is a handjob not an extra?

lol was just reminded that although im such a vocal advocate of LDK sometimes a HJ is necessary.I had an off night and my ATF couldnt get me to finish in our traditional way. Luckily she obliged and ended our session with a handshake. The experience felt like watching one of those pornos when the girl gets tired of the guy fucking to get the money shot and then just gets down on her knees while he jacks off into her face.

HJs seem so common I don't really think of it as an extra.

Hmm, I checked this thread, which would back you up.

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It’s just odd to me that this board doesn’t really consider HJs as extras. I think most strippers would think that it is

@nicespice - I think it's more in areas that have a fixed higher VIP cost that HJs aren't considered extra. Here in TX awesome high mileage LDs are commonplace but HJs and extras in general are rarer.

Extras are being had any time the little head comes out of his cave. A hand job therefore is an extra.

I definitely consider a HJ an extra, but it’s a low end extra that I don’t look for. A bigger question in my mind is DATY an extra?

How could DATY not be an extra? It involves eating her pussy - and with that level of intimate contact - I’d expect it to be an extra.

Maybe I’m incorrect on the definition of extras?

How about fisting? Is that an extra? Dick doesn't have to come out.

It might not be an extra because if that’s all she is offering your dick stays in your pants. I’ve had a couple of girls say they would “let me” eat them as their best VIP offer. I passed. I like it, but it’s not something I’ll pay for if that’s all I’m getting.

You should gave countered with you would "let her" suck you and that you would charge less than them.

I’d consider fisting an extra. Depending on how rough you are - the dancer might not be doing much dancing after the fisting.

I guess it’s fisting preferences - as I’ve not fisted a girl without having my dick out. Generally we are both nude - as it can get very messy!

I’ve not fisted a dancer itc in a long time - and it’s not easy to get them stretched enough during a regular itc dance session.

If your dick is out its an extra.. If your dick is covered its an LDK

A nut is a nut

My goal is to cum some way and some how

If i cum bitch gets paid lol

Last time at the club I ended up with 2 LDKs each from different dancers. I felt it was a lot better as the second girl said I get he there as well and the grinding was a lot more erotic and intense.