jthershey

This discussion proves just how different PLs are from each other. I by far prefer LDK over HJ. To me its more intimate - hell you can do a HJ yourself. A nice sensual grind over thin slacks is gold. Espically when the girl gets into it to. Nude grinding is even better.

The only example I have; a small club (slight upgrade from hole in the wall) in Phoenix that an old friend of mine and I were considering buying. This was about 3 years ago so not sure what has changed. Owner said the club took in around $20K a month if business was just decent, more for busy months. Owner himself said he probably scored $4K per month or so. Enough to make a living, but he had another job too. I'd guess a large club the numbers would be around twice that, from what he said about managing a larger club at one point. It was an decent club actually, but the owner said his business partner screwed him over somehow. The club shut down about 2 months after we talked to the owner.

--Don't overcharge on anything; entry, dances, drinks, VIP etc. Make your money on volume and repeat business --Semi private VIP; no, I don't need a dark room with the doors closed... but separate from the main crowd, and for heavens sake, NO BOUNCERS STARING at your dance --per dance VIP pricing; instead of 3/$100 or half-hour/$250... that way if the dancer sucks, its much less damage --make good drinks, not watered down messes --if your average customer is not a millionaire, then don't try to act like a high-end club. I can find my own seat, I can dispense my own soap, etc.

Some keys to think about: If she starts moaning, usually loud, at the very beginning of the dance, she's probably faking. She might be legit if, 2nd or 3rd song in, she suddenly starts to pick up the pace - turns her head with her eyes closed and mouth open, and keeps her climax fairly quiet. She probably wont even tell you she came, but the wet spot on your pants and the sweat on her forehead make it pretty obvious. Even in the sack most women don't announce it (unless you ask), so you have to know the clues I guess.

Of the cities I've been a patron in: 1. Tijuana (not SD) 2. Phoenix 3. Dallas 4. Detroit 5. Miami 6. Las Vegas 7. Los Angeles I've been to others, such as Kansas City and San Antonio, and I can't even see myself adding them to the list. They were that bad. And from what my friends say, Tampa would be right at the top, but I've never been there.