A question for the older guys . . .
ei8ht_Ball
Still don't know what I'm doing here . . .
For those of you who have been doing this a really long time, do you spend more or less on the hobby as you move into your older years?
I'm assuming that I'll spend less because I don't think I'd be comfortable doing OTC with a girl more than 20 years younger than me. Given that I spend more for OTC than a night at the club, especially when you throw in dinner, a room at a nicer hotel, and a couple bottles of wine, I view myself spending considerably less once I'm past that and strictly hanging out at the club. But in my older years I also want to club more frequently than I club/OTC today.
How has your clubbing and spending changed over the years. Is it naive of me to think I should budget for less spending on this in retirement rather than more?
I'm assuming that I'll spend less because I don't think I'd be comfortable doing OTC with a girl more than 20 years younger than me. Given that I spend more for OTC than a night at the club, especially when you throw in dinner, a room at a nicer hotel, and a couple bottles of wine, I view myself spending considerably less once I'm past that and strictly hanging out at the club. But in my older years I also want to club more frequently than I club/OTC today.
How has your clubbing and spending changed over the years. Is it naive of me to think I should budget for less spending on this in retirement rather than more?
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No. Based on the example of the retired old farts on here you will be spending less, and probably a lot less. Remember, you'll be on a fixed income, so you'll obsess over every penny you spend in the club. Of course, you'll be clubbing exclusively during the weekday day shift, coming in when there's no cover and lunching on the free buffet, and then leaving the club by 3-4 pm. Don't worry about the age difference - most day "girls" are over-the-hill, past their prime (or never had a prime) dancers who won't be that much younger than you. But at least they're cheap. Enjoy your golden years.
Oh two_bits, now who's being naive.
"most day "girls" are over-the-hill, past their prime (or never had a prime) dancers who won't be that much younger than you"
I know where to get the good stuff during the day . . . we'll see if it's still around when I'm older.
I suspect that you'll eventually get over this hurdle.
It's possible. But does it cost more once you're noticeable older than her father? If that's the case then I really need to start socking more away.
I hit my favorite club Follies at least twice a week. My spending has been pretty stable over the last 10 years. I leave early to beat the rush hour traffic through Atlanta and because the club gets too crowded. My OTC has slipped because I am too fussy about who I want to meet OTC.
I was fucking a girl 40 years younger than me this weekend and I was very comfortable.
My strip club spending did not begin until I had reached an advanced age. Before then, I had a family to support and a mortgage to pay and retirement investments to make. Now I have few mandatory expenses and a lot of retirement income. I can't pretend to have spent as much money on strippers as Gawker, but I spend enough to make most PLs jealous of senior citizens.
Motel 6? Nah, that's @Family_Man. You say you have a great legal mind, but you can't even keep the parody trolls on here straight.
I currently feel comfortable taking girls 15 - 20 years younger than me to a hotel, but when I reach my 60s I think I'll want to just keep it in the club, have fun there, and do a lot of champagne rooms. Some of the shit I've put up with OTC, I don't think I could do it as an older gentleman. It makes perfect sense to me why I'd want to stay at the club, especially when it comes to the girls who can't perform until I drive them to a shitty part of town to pick up their prescription. . But to each their own.
Oh, boo-hoo. We're supposed to feel sorry for a shady, bottom-feeding lawyer that can only attract the dregs of society for clients?
I like to think of it as kismet.
I realized that I was basically pissing money away when I was clubbing years ago. There’s nothing wrong in spending money in a club - but pissing it away is wasteful - and it doesn’t always equate to extras.
My assessment of clubbing after I retire is that I expect to club/otc less. Since I will be older, I’m expecting my desire to decrease a bit, and I expect that to lead to less trips out. I think that I will also spend less as a result.
I could be wrong - as I could find an ATF like Gawker did - and my spending and excitement might increase?!
In my opinion, no.
"... but when I reach my 60s I think I'll want to just keep it in the club..."
Respectfully, trying to predict your attitudes decades in advance probably doesn't have a lot of ROI. Focus on what's fun for you now.
I think this there is becoming a trend in this changing, too, at least regarding the last part of the sentence. Criminals will always be idolized. Younger couples (mostly, some that are so young) think it's cute to call themselves "Bonnie and Clyde," even if they're not criminals. That is not good. I guess they don't know Bonnie and Clyde's demise was 167+ bullets shot into their car. Or the deaths, life sentences, and other long sentences given to various druglords depicted in movies throughout history. But the movies make it look glamorous, and IRL if some people see other people in their community making money that way, they agree.
But I do think that having a career has more value placed on it than it used to. Some people still in the crime life get jealous when they see people from that same community getting an education and/or good jobs, new car, nice house, without having to "trap" for it or whatever.
At a lot of places in my "hometown" of Detroit, more respect is now being placed towards people who make legit money. It has sort of become a bragging right in those communities. The shithole city my ex grew up in was the same. When I was around the people he grew up with over there, I was basically put on a pedestal for having legal jobs, money, an education, and overall having my shit together. Even some of his friends who were starting to get degrees and legal money amd leaving their criminal life behind would say, "I wanna get to your level." Lol. You see enough people from your community go to prison and/or get killed, and a life of crime is less worth it.
At one time you had a legit job, money, an education, and overall had your shit together.
Now you're a stripper with anger management issues.
What happened?
I get more straightforward and honest remarks from the girls at my local club.
Now you're a stripper with anger management issues.
What happened?"
I still have a legit job. My stripping is legit to me. I also am a paralegal.
I've gotten better at controlling my "anger management" issues over the last couple years, it's called adapting. I will no longer punch my TV just because it won't turn on when I arrive home from a hard night's work. I'm good.
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I think as I get older (almost 41 now) I spend maybe less and I understand more of what I'm looking for, I know how to make it happen, and I'm proactive about it.
I see where you are saying about the age difference. 3 years ago, when I got back into this after a 12 year break, I was getting to know a 19 y/o dancer then it occurred me I was actually TWICE her age. Normally I was used to like a 6 year plus or minus age difference. Here I was legit old enough to be her Dad. It did kind of bother me at first. I got over it. I think we all do.
I agree with John, in that clubbing frequency isn't really a function of age for me but rather what's going on in my life. I'll club more if I am having less access to civilian sex. or if I'm stuck in a funk between work, school, and home and need to shake things up with something new and novel.
I think I may budget more per visit in the future, that is if I still go. Only because I spend so little now (about $140 once or twice a year). I think I'll budget more (assuming clubs will even still be relevant to me), mostly as a treat or reward than need as it stands today.
Are you that weirdo that only goes to clubs once a year?
It's called simple human compassion, 8-ball.
I see someone that's obviously hurting, in a downward life spiral, emotionally damaged and desperately seeking some kind of validation here, and I'm trying to understand why, and how I just might be able to help.
What the hell was your questions anyway?
I, too, am pro not being broke.
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