What if you never started SCing?

Without strip clubbing, I would be richer, holier and more dignified. I would be improving my mind instead of engaging in perverted activities. I don't regret a thing.

I'd sit in bars and drink instead of strip clubs and probably play Keno.

I'd have more money in my savings/investment account.

I would be watching a lot more porn .

I would probably have more money, but I might have spent it on other things. It's possible I might have gotten married, too.

I’m with W. C. Fields on this one “ most of my money was spent on wine, women, and song, the rest I just wasted”

Since I regularly meet gorgeous women IRL, and date (FWB, not P4P) model-quality civie hotties, not much would really change for me.

I suppose I would miss visiting the club and locking down the hottest girl there for the evening, but I can always do that a local sports bar.

I would not be nearly as happy as i am and would have much fewer stories.

I’d have a lot more money but a lot fewer memories of sexual fantasies fulfilled. No regrets.

I’d still be married, and I’d probably be a lot poorer.

I’d still be watching Jill Kelly porn scenes - over and over! She was hot as fuck - and she never ages on screen!

My life probably wouldn't be very different. I don't schedule my life around strip clubbing, but rather the other way around.

I'd have fewer stories to tell, and I've had some great times in strip clubs. On my own and occasionally with friends. I've met more than a few interesting... errr... characters in the clubs.

And there would have been a lot fewer smoking hot women in my life. That would suck.

Every so often, though, I'll try to do some math in my head regarding the piles of money I've spent in my considerable years of strip clubbing. I won't say that I regret the expense (well, not for most of it...), but it makes me wonder what I'd do if I could snap my fingers and have all that cash appear at my feet.

Everything is relative, though. I've spent a lot more than the average guy in a strip club, but a lot less than several of the guys who post here.

Overall, no regrets. Some very specific nights, different story.

Agree with jack. I wouldn’t trade a thing. My personality would have led me to much more destructive entertainment avenues. I consider going to clubs fun and harmless entertainment albeit expensive

It’s not a central part of my life so I don’t think things would be a whole lot different for me. Theoretically I’d have more money but I spend only my fun money on clubs (for the most part) so I might have spent it on some other amusement. Maybe I’d have gone to a few more baseball games.

Definitely a lot more money. I’m pretty efficient when i spend it, but I just spend it too much. But really I don’t see a better way to spend money honestly. As a single guy.

Honestly some of my best memories are from SCing. I’d be bored and not even realize it without that life.

"but it makes me wonder what I'd do if I could snap my fingers and have all that cash appear at my feet." - I would probably race to my favorite club :)

I’d venture to say a lot more guys would be divorced from cheating on their wives with neighborhood women and getting caught.

The club provides discrete opportunities. It’s why wives don’t want you going, but at least there is an unspoken agreement that you don’t fall in love with a stripper.

As many have stated, I would have saved thousands of dollars, but really as JohnSmith said, no regrets. Also, I would never have met the 15 to 20 members I have met, most of which are really decent guys.

i would have missed the most enjoyable experience of my lifetime.

1. I would have indulged more in other areas of the sex industry
2. I would have discovered SA sooner
3. I would be on the couch next to Cashman, with my favorite sock, watching Jill Kelly movies. No homo.

Definitely would have way more $$$ - I'm a saver by nature, even as a little-kid whenever I got $$$ I would put it away and only use-it for the one thing I really wanted, w/e that was; vs spending my $$$ on w/e just b/c I had it (as my older bro would do) - spending on anything else other than SCing really doesn't pique-my-interest much so I doubt I would spend as much $$$ on something else compared to how much I have spent on SCing (never been a bar-guy; nightclub-guy; buy fancy clothes and expensive jewelry guy) - perhaps I would have taken more-vacations but although I would have enjoyed that it's not necessarily a super-hobby and I doubt I would have spent anything close to what I've spent on SCing.

But as others, I don't regret it b/c I've had some great-times and have some great-memories (and I love women and SCs are probably the easiest way to have instant access to attractive-women) - I def would be a lot grumpier than I am now if I didn't indulge in SCing.

You only live once - and you can't take it with you.

Some older folks will say they more regret the things they didn't get to do, than certain things they did.

I always think about what I could've done with the money I've spent at the strip club. If I had all that money back I could be rolling around in a Corvette by now lol.

But I think all my money spent has been worth it. Perfect company and lots of great memories

Doubt it would be any different.

Strip clubs are where I learned how to talk to young women. I learned that when they want to, they can be very pleasing. And of course this comes across in the dolling up and manner of dress.

What I learned is that one should not deal with women unless they are going to be this pleasing.

So I have a future, because of what I learned in strip clubs. Like our Sunnyvale Hip Hugger, mostly a talking club.

Otherwise I probably would have succumbed to the poisonous death trap marriage I was in, and expired.

SJG


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Georges Bizet : his life and work / Winton Dean. (1965)

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^^ “Strip clubs are where I learned to talk to women.”

What a fag!! That means his only perception of women are behind the cloaked veil of fallacy, withlittle to no authenticity. This guy lives in fantasy land! No wonder he and Nina have so much in common.

SJG posted: "Strip clubs are where I learned how to talk to young women."

MAAAAN if that doesn't explain a whole lot about your ........ mindset. You should post that sentence as your quote under your screen name, so new posters will have some context about the person they're chatting with.

I've been petering away from the hobby. It's all about moderation and that applies to pretty much anything. It's alright to spend money but don't spend crazy amounts every single time. I'd probably have spent my money on eating out more often

I think SJG’s statements about clubbing show why he had so many issues with other pl’s.

He learned how to talk to young women in strip clubs - which is an environment where every guy (with money) is interesting! I’m sure it was frustrating speaking with civilian women, who were actually honest, afterward. Then making the realization that the strippers’ interest was only artificial, must have been rough on his ego.

Sadly, it’s guys like SJG who are susceptible to the charms of strippers - and who are easily manipulated into spending more and more. So when SJG calls us chumps for clubbing - and spending on strippers - he’s really showing his frustration because he feels that he’s the king of all chumps.

SJG posted: "Strip clubs are where I learned how to talk to young women."

definitely true for me.
and I'm still learning.

There's other things I do with my life and without clubbing I would do them more often. I love investing and save more than the average person, so without clubbing the extra cash would be split between more investments and perhaps some nice vacations.

But I also don't think that one needs to club at the same pace for their entire life. When I have a CF who's worth it I up my game, but I do so in a responsible manner. The one I have right now is perhaps the best there ever will be. I think she understands what her shelf life in the industry is, and I plan on seeing that through. Then I'm going to slow down and club more casually, and dedicate more time/funds to other things in life that are important to me.

I've also started a side hustle that occupies some of the time that I could spend clubbing. I will gradually up the time that I put into this, and hopefully this will pave the way for even better clubbing experiences later in life.

Cashman and TFP, pair of knuckleheads.

Our clubs are softer core, and so there is less money and more talking. I can't prove this to you, but far more often than not the dancers and I really get along well, going way beyond anything money would buy.

Sure you can mock that kind of an idea, but that just shows what idiots you are.

SJG

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Wow, I have had our resident creep on ignore for a while so I would have missed this gem of a post if it wasn't for you guys pointing it out. Super enlightening...

@DC9428 - Read the second paragraph in SjCreeps post. Lots of PLs have gained experience in the SC or with P4P. SjCreep has turned his failed marriage and success with women in P4P into a weird unibomber manifesto.

Pros:
Id have a lot more in savings
I would be probably married
Cons
I'd probably weight 60 more lbs. Going to a SC is usually my reward to sticking to my diet. a LDK is a much healthier alternative to Mcdonalds.
Id probably really hate my wife. Im sure I would have settled for some fat slob and instead of getting a divorce Id cheat on her or spend as much time out of the house as possible.
I probably would have been a backpage enthusiast or OTC regular by now. This could be a pro or con, but ive never seen an escort that was worth the money and im sure outcalls can be a sketchy affair