11 questions for NiceSpice
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
(feel free to ignore the ones you wish not to answer)
1) how long you've been dancing?
2) how old were you when you started dancing?
3) Had you visited strip-clubs numerous times as a custy prior to dancing and had a decent idea how they worked, all was it pretty-much all new to you when you started dancing?
4) Were you able to handle your first shift well or were you a-sack-of-nerves?
5) Approx how many dances did you sell on your first shift - did you do about your avg now, below, or better, your first night?
6) Do you have siblings and do they know you dance?
7) do you have a favorite dancing position and why?
8) do you target a particular type of custy and why?
9) Favorite sex position and why?
10) Oral sex - w.r.t. receiving yes/no? - w.r.t. giving do you like to, not like to, do it mainly to please your partner?
11) what age did you lose your virginity
1) how long you've been dancing?
2) how old were you when you started dancing?
3) Had you visited strip-clubs numerous times as a custy prior to dancing and had a decent idea how they worked, all was it pretty-much all new to you when you started dancing?
4) Were you able to handle your first shift well or were you a-sack-of-nerves?
5) Approx how many dances did you sell on your first shift - did you do about your avg now, below, or better, your first night?
6) Do you have siblings and do they know you dance?
7) do you have a favorite dancing position and why?
8) do you target a particular type of custy and why?
9) Favorite sex position and why?
10) Oral sex - w.r.t. receiving yes/no? - w.r.t. giving do you like to, not like to, do it mainly to please your partner?
11) what age did you lose your virginity
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I'm pretty sure she's mentioned she's 25 ys/o
Or is that always an open question...
2) I was 22 years old when I started.
3) I visited a couple of strip clubs with my ex boyfriend before I started dancing. He spoke so critically of them, and I couldn’t understand why he would want to go. I also realized how quickly $20 goes away, and that’s when the seeds were planted in my head of why the heck am I not a part of this.
4) I was handling it alright. I was a sack of nerves though during the first time a customer attempted FIV. I didn’t anticipate it and was a little bitch about it, lol.
5) My dances were a combination of $20 floor and $40 vip. I don’t remember the exact number but I think I made like $320 or something?
6) I have two brothers who are autistic, developmentally disabled, and non verbal. They wouldn’t care either way.
7) My favorite is just basic cowgirl. It allows a decent grind and also lets me make eye contact with the customer. They seem to enjoy it and it’s easy to stack dances like that.
8) The chances of a customer getting a dance from me definitely go up if it’s is the engineering/IT type. So I go for the pasty white and Indian nerds first :p
9) Hm, I like to change it up. I guess on top.
10) Oral sex - I like it for the most part, giving and receiving. Giving is sometimes a challenge when my ADD is especially bad however, but I just have to remember to focus.
11) 16
a) height (tall, short, avg)?
b) build (slim; built, meaty, etc)?
c) intelligence (dumb ok; has to be above avg; avg ok)
d) sense of humor (a must, or nice but not a requirement)?
e) penis size preference (small, medium, large, extra-large, I don't put much thought into it)?
f) ethnic preference (white; Latino; Asian; black; etc) - for non-black (light or dark hair)?
The cruel irony being that when I finally move to Portland, I will probably be done with it. I’d be with my boyfriend full time, and from what I’ve heard there would be a likely income hit so I wouldn’t have a problem quitting by that point. :p
a) Indifferent to height.
b) Indifferent to build, though I prefer a healthy weight.
c) Intelligence is a big requirement
d) Oh heck yes, to a sense of humor. My boyfriend and I were drawn together by bantering at each other nonstop about nonsense.
e) This may sound like bs, but I prefer small to medium. It’s just easiest because I’m a bit small as well.
f) Like height and body type, I’ve dated more than one as well. My boyfriend is white, so it is what it is. But the Asian side of my family is pretty racist, and I enjoyed dating a black guy and making them uncomfortable.
So tldr personality/intelligence > looks.
I approach anyone obviously interested too ;)
15) what is your height and weight?
16) any tats (if so describe them) - and how to do feel about tats on guys or people in general?
If you fall off the wagon when you are out here hit me up! (LOL FYI I would also meet with you at a club as a civie.)
19) fave cuisine?
20) Marijuana (yes, no, occasionally)?
15) I’m 5’0 & 102 pounds
16) I have zero tattoos. I wouldn’t mind an odd tattoo here and there, but if there’s an elaborate sleeve, then we might not be compatible. (When I’m not working, I don’t wear makeup, and I don’t usually dress in a way to draw attention to myself)
17) This will be a long one.
The first time a customer brought up to me about an LDK, he asked me if I can do it, and I was confused because I never heard about it seriously. Sure SW complained about sweatshorts, but I live in Texas where it can be hot. It never occurred to me to judge a customer negatively on it.
But back to that first customer, he bought 15 dances from me in a row, and told me I was great despite the fact he didn’t cum. (He was very drunk though, so I say it’s not my fault)
The only time I knew was when I met up with PaulDrake, and he gave me advice to be encouraging to a customer if he stops me part of the way into a dance. Looking back, there have been a few customers who have abruptly cut me off mid dance in the past, but I didn’t really question what was happening.
A couple of weeks ago, a customer was being all wishy washy on a dance, and I went ahead and told him he’d likely LDK. Then he bought several dances. Yay
19) I love lots of differnt types of foods from a bunch of cultures. It’s hard for me to pinpoint one. Lately, maybe sashimi.
20) I like to have edibles on occasion, I’m not much into smoking weed. And I’m not able to contol the munchies so I wouldn’t have weed every day. (I don’t wanna get fat)
21) what career/job would you like to get established in?
22) Do you speak another language fluently?
23) Ever been w/ another female or curious to be - if you have, how was it (didn't like it; meh; awesome)?
Just sayin’.
:)
Ideally some lifestyle business. I was thinking of starting a stripper ecommerce store. But I would need to do more to “research the market” among other things.
I’m not particularly enthusiastic about any corporate job. But I had an eye on tech sales.
22) I’m not currently fluent in any other language. I have been self-studying Chinese, which I’ve forgotten about lately. I definitely need to go back at it!
23) Aside from some double dances occasionally, not really.
24) I prefer older. But the important thing is just to have their life together in some sort of way.
@GMD I’ll keep that in mind :)
BTW NiceSpice - Miami is sunny year-round
SJG
Mason
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san_jose_guy - commonly referred to as SJG this forum member is usually mocked or ignored, his comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate
Of course, you have to deal with them. But beyond that you cannot let them determine your moral universe. Beyond a point, you have to see that they don't know their asses from holes in the ground. You can't let them influence you.
And here:
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SJG
Mason
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1971
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We want Nicole be great so one day we have another buy goat and name it after Nicole baby nickname. In Pakistan we have 4 goat and one named Pooshe. But we have to sell Pooshe to Mr Khad banana stand because of worms. But Pooshe was cutesy goat I ever see so we call Nicole Pooshe when she child. Umi and I always say our Pooshe was most beautiful Pooshe. Oh how I miss my little Pooshe and now she is just nasties Pooshe.
Excellent questions, PC
No :)
Also, thanks for the nice comments guys.
And if they're not Indian (stereotyping, i guess), how good are you at divining that they are engineering/IT without actually stopping by and conversing with them? I guess i'm probably asking if this preference is helping you or hurting you?
Now if they are Indian, i don't know if Indians are the same in Texas as they are in Illinois, but they are probably well over represented (compared to national averages) in the Chicago suburbs and the city and even more over represented in the SCs. So they're fairly common in the SCs. Yet they seem to be the last group most strippers target in these parts unless there is no one left, probably followed by non-English speaking or little-English speaking Latinos. Without knowing for sure, i've been led to believe they were both generally similarly cheap and grabby and didn't listen very well despite different income levels. Some dancers still might find a way to maximize profiting from certain groups' generalized tastes, preferences and interests although this could be seen as often inaccurate profiling. Maybe you've found a way to do it with them?
I will say out of all these Q&A sessions with other dancers, you have been refreshingly the most disclosing, generous and honest of the bunch. Poledancer might be a close second, but she seems distracted quite a bit...
That said, it's an interesting read. Thanks to nicespice for sharing.
@DirkDiggler
“Do you actually do well with this type[engineers]? That is do they spend well, stack dances, try not to push your limits, etc?”
But just because I’m a bit more in favor of these types, doesn’t mean I ignore the rest. And anyone who tips me on stage or is clearly looking at me gets priority regardless.
I just say the nerd type because,for me, they are just simply the easiest in terms of the time it takes to get from a table to a lap dance area. Also, I don’t usually sell VIPs, just floor dances.
“Preference is helping you or hurting you?”
Generally, if they are dressed in a plain clothed way, and somewhat dorky. :p
But even with the less “stereotypical” customers, I end up finding out plenty of good spenders (for me) end up being in that field anyways.
Oh, and a lot of them are eastern Asian as well. I don’t know how I forgot to mention that.
“Yet they seem to be the last group most strippers target in these parts unless there is no one left, probably followed by non-English speaking or little-English speaking Latinos.”
Oh, Indians and Mexicans are definitely a group that live up to their stereotypes. They are grabby and also the most proactive for asking for discounted dances.
When I was less experienced, I didn’t like this group either. Even though I started dancing in San Antonio, it didn’t take me long to want to retreat to a club in Austin with more white customers as opposed to Mexicans.
But as I’ve gotten better at setting boundaries, and also better at guessing how any one customer is going to behave, the Mexican/Indian group doesn’t bother me anymore.
This group is an oddball—it’s common for me to stack multiple dances with them, despite that I’m doing non-stop wriggling around their fingers/mouth. And they seem perfectly happy too at the end, even though logically speaking if they sat still, they could have had better mileage.
And I just politely tell them no on their discount requests, though I will sometimes throw in a “buy five dances and get one free” deal every here and there. (For the more “chill” ones anyway)
“Maybe you've found a way to do it with them?”
In all honestly, I think I’m just going for the type many other dancers have as a lower priority, especially the dancers who care more about closing VIP.
I prefer to make less money off more customers.
Do you remember where doctorevil specifically defended Vincemichaels or pedophilia?
Keep in mind, I am also not fond of predators.
I’ll give more you personal information about me: When I was 16, I got involved with a 24 year old. At the time, I was dumb enough to think it was because of a maturity thing on my end.
Later, I ended up realizing there’s a reason women closer to his age don’t want to deal with his crap. It’s because he was mentally unstable and emotionally abusive.
I tell you this because I want you to believe me when I say that I’m always at least subconsciously on the lookout for the types of older men who like to specifically take advantage of younger women (as opposed to just simply enjoying their company within the rules that the law allows)
And yes, I think I saw doctorevil’s character just fine. Granted, obviously I don’t know his entire life story. But I think I got a general feel for his personality well enough.
All I know is in relation to me, despite the fact he is known around here as quite the extras lover, he never once attempted to push any boundaries during the lapdances. He only made one pitch for me to blow off my shift to have fun. And when I said no, he was perfectly fine with it. And he tipped me nicely when I was on stage.
And I don’t see him as a future wallet contributor, as he isn’t going to be in my area regularly.
Unlike regular heels, which usually only make a female taller due to the stiletto, stripper shoes also has a larger base platform as well at the bottom.
The brand that practically has the monopoly is Pleasers, followed up by Elle as the “second tier”.
I think my shoes are 6”—which is a solid “average” as far as stripper shoes go.
Hey if the PLs are paying and happy then they aren't the worst customers. You still have the supercreeps or the really needy ones and i guess the RBDs or even the real heebee jeebee types. I wonder how you feel about the advanced TUSCLer type PL, if you think it's worth your energy and time to deal with them.
Thank you for taking the time to find that thread for me.
Judging from some of these posts, I don’t think I’d care for Vincemichaels either. I don’t really flame many from the board on here, but I could have seen myself jumping in on going after him as well. But I think I would have gone about it in a different way than you and dougster chose.
But that’s neither here nor there. From what I’ve heard, he has already passed away, so I don’t wish to care for it one way or another if I don’t have to.
Doctorevil himself never personally knew VM or even exchanged a PM with him. He was just simply displeased with the board deviating from SC discussion. My (positive) opinion of DrEvil is the same.
And I’d like to remind you, AND also everyone else on the board while I’m at it, that sometimes a person is better than how they portray themselves on a discussion board.
As a person who personally met Nicole, and genuinely enjoyed having intelligent conversation with her, I feel confident in saying something like that.
It’s just a different style. I don’t normally stick with any one potential customer for too long. If they don’t buy a dance within 2-5 songs (depending on how busy the the club is), then I’m off to the next potential one.
And occasionally, when they say “not right *now*” they actually meant it and really will get one later on.
It’s not uncommon (well lately it has been) for me to get $700+ just doing floor dances so I haven’t felt the need to change it up.
And in Austin, even though I work at a non-extras club, I don’t care for
I wonder how you feel about the advanced TUSCLer type PL, if you think it's worth your energy and time to deal with them.
a) isn’t offered in the club
b) full of extras
c) puts me in a situation where I have to compete with the “vip mafia” (that’s what a poster on Stripper Web described it). And I’d have to start making more effort to “play office politics” lest I risk pissing them off and being booted to dayshift. But if I was interested in playing office politics at the moment, I’d quit stripping and get another job. One with a 401k.
And I wouldn’t consider most of the customers I see as “low value” necessarily. Just not ballers, though a few will occasionally surprise me and give me way more than I asked for. And they put a smile on my face just thinking of them.
And the true assholes are easy enough to avoid completely.
Other places talked about here are straight up brothels.
But your club sounds like it is mid level mileage. Costs still can be substantial, but delivery very constrained. Not like Tijuana.
Do you agree that it is in these mid-mileage places that there are most likely to be crossed wires and frustrations as the result?
SJG
Carmen, Full Opera, set in Seville around 1820
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I have a different opinion than others on many “controversial” topics with others without ending up personally disliking them. Whether the topic is abortion, gun control, child labor, certain actions of a former friend (personal social circle drama thing)...
And I don’t get the impression he’s a psychopath. I did get a scoundrel impression, but he takes his scoundrel ways to other strippers and not me.
And he doesn’t emotionally manipulate them in a way to feed some odd Madonna/whole complex. He just wants to be a horny PL and there’s nothing evil with that.
“But your club sounds like it is mid level mileage. Costs still can be substantial, but delivery very constrained. Not like Tijuana.
Do you agree that it is in these mid-mileage places that there are most likely to be crossed wires and frustrations as the result?”
Texas is high mileage. But no, there’s no making out with the customer in the open. Even if it is an extras club.
And without that front room makeout session, the girl usually is not emotionally opened up.
So lots of money is raked in, but it is mostly still just feeding sexual frustration, and so crossed wires are likely.
Our no touching clubs do not have this problem. But also the most extreme dives of dives don't.
SJG
Usually 60-120 in a sex shop, where I have bought shoes before. It would have been cheaper online.
Shoe brands are weird. I can be either a five or a six. But with Pleasers brand shoe, size five.
SJG
“Do you like the even higher ones, like 8, 9, and 10" Pleasers?”
Maybe next time I buy a shoe, I’ll look into the taller ones and try it on. But I’m alright with the two different pairs of shoes I own currently.
Do you see this happening for yourself?
:) :) :)
SJG
The only club I know of that’s a “you can do whatever you want to” is a club that’s larger. The only problem is, the dancers (against management’s wishes) set their own dance prices to whatever they want.
Hard though for management to ever control the pricing.
Usually if the just hire as many girls as they can, then it is no longer a big privilege to work there, and so girl being in competition will do whatever they want.
If clubs want the girls to follow rules, then they have to rig it so that even following the rules they will still be making money.
SJG
Keen observation, @Pupae. I'm pretty sure GMD has tried that with every dancer that's every posted on here, lol.
When is that poor sap gonna realize no self-respecting dancer wants anything to do with him or his 3rd rate city.
I always made it clear that I would just give her the customary money ($20). Then we talked and I made her feel comfortable about the whole things.
:) :) :)
SJG
But I never ever would talk to them like money buys them. I don't talk to women like that, ever.
SJG
But that still does not mean I would ever talk to them like money buys them.
SJG
the only question i would ask of you is: how different are you at the SC than you are here?? previously, you mention constant SS and do you play up any one particular persona?? IE the intelligent girl, the girl next door, party girl, etc...
On here, I’m interested in getting to know different personalities and viewpoints. In the club, I’m just interested in getting my money and bouncing to the next person.
I do try my best to have a certain amount of ethics when working, and I think that’s part of my preferred MO.
Some former regulars, I feel kind of bad for leading them on. And making them think there was a real possibility I might like them. It’s what I’m supposed to do, but I get emotionally drained.
Can you elaborate?
How can you piss-off the "VIP mafia" and how are they able to affect your dancing?
I’ve never met the owners, so I don’t know anything specific there. Nor have I ever met this SW poster IRL. But her observation about these VIP only gals who never hit the stage (and you have to be in VIP to avoid stage) is accurate.
I do disagree with this SW poster, though, about the poor money on the floor. I’ve made plenty of $700-$900 shifts before only doing floor dances. I know not doing the VIP hustle is screwing me out of being top earner, but I’ve made peace with that a while ago.
As for these floor dances, does this club not have regular/non VIP lap dances? Are they done table side, or anywhere you can find in the club? If the club doesn't take a cut and the dances aren't dirt cheap (under $10), i can still see someone making money from them.
There’s a long “bench” area in a specific corner. Yes, you can make money dance stacking.
I thought Houston still had lots of extras? I only know about it by reputation from other strippers. I never worked there.
And in my area, VIP is also flat rate+dancer charge.
I keep up w/ the reviews of some of the Houston clubs and I don't read that many extras going-on - only H-club I hear of consistent extras is Centerfolds; where prior to that 2013 lots of clubs were very-extras-heavy if not extras-centric - this is my observation from keeping up w/ the reviews pre and post 2013 but I'm not an expert on the H-town clubs.
Who knows though? Maybe some of that actually works on enough people for them to keep on doing this. Then again, since the vast majority of PLs aren't veteran TUSCLers, maybe, hopefully, the vast majority of strippers aren't jaded SW girls.
As far as Stripperweb goes, for me I’d rate it 90% crap and 10% useful. The same ratios as I would rank TUSCL. But SW doesn’t have the funny trolls this site has.
That lasted for about a year or so circa 2013/14; can't quite remember - but it's not the case now.
- How often are you asked for your number? How often do you give it out? Criteria for giving it?
- How many customers are you actively texting with in a given day? Week?
SJG
Yeah, I just see it as bravado. At least (most of) the posters on here are more honest about themselves.
- How often are you asked for your number? How often do you give it out? Criteria for giving it?
Criteria for phone number—>a few lapdances. I have a sideline account so it’s not like I care.
- How many customers are you actively texting with in a given day? Week?
Maybe like 1-3 idk. I have no steady regulars at the moment. I have an ex regular who might turn into a regular again. I think he and his girlfriend broke up. But not sure.
@SJG
I exchange PMs on here with a few people regularly. Which leads to me looking at the discussion board as a whole.
SJG
FWIW, for those in my organization, big things will be happening, learning, working, spiritual growth, political involvement.
SJG
A) text as if they want to date you
B) text as if they want to be friends with you
C) stick to business only (making appointments)
I used to follow this one HTX stripper’s Tumblr blog.
Her selfies look like she’s wearing a thong and I don’t think there are pasties. No idea where she works though.
@PaulDrake
Most of them are A-B. Some pitch to me as if it’s A-B and then I turn it into C. I’m pretty undiscriminating about handing over #s, but there’s definitely a lot of “filtering” to do.