Stripper Volume
So while some on here seem to love high volume sex workers, a lot seem to not care for them. Is it because higher volume sex workers provide a lower GFE? Or is it a prestige thing?
Because I’m very skeptical when some people on here speak about a dancer being low volume while at the same time, paying the rates most TUSCL users prefer (comparable to escorts or even less).
I remember there was a discussion a few weeks ago that asked to predict how many strippers do extras. Zoey and I disagreed with most of the other commenters in the sense more dancers do extras than even the PL on here believe. But it’s for the right customer at the right price.
In my experience, the truly low volume dancers are lower volume because they charge well over what a comparable escort would for full service. And to believe otherwise is buying into SS.
Any other thoughts on this?
Because I’m very skeptical when some people on here speak about a dancer being low volume while at the same time, paying the rates most TUSCL users prefer (comparable to escorts or even less).
I remember there was a discussion a few weeks ago that asked to predict how many strippers do extras. Zoey and I disagreed with most of the other commenters in the sense more dancers do extras than even the PL on here believe. But it’s for the right customer at the right price.
In my experience, the truly low volume dancers are lower volume because they charge well over what a comparable escort would for full service. And to believe otherwise is buying into SS.
Any other thoughts on this?
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Also, such extreme girls tend to be anything goes, and this also means front room DFKing.
At San Francisco AMPs, many of the girls are this way. And they don't refuse DFKing, they love it. Once they see what the guy is intending to do, they go for it.
I mean, guys here love TJ, and of course the girls are that way. Guys have reporting sitting and watching some girls do dozens of arriba's in one night.
And then at our underground circuit, when one place was doing Front Room FS, girls were doing those quantities, and that core group of Latina's, they are beloved.
Only thing, a girl with such experience will never be faithfully monogamous, not through thick and thin.
And no point in trying to predict what a girl will do in the back room. Only even consider the back room when that front room makeout session is underway and it is time for your own pants to come down.
SJG
Sorry I didn't answer your question. I'm not an extras nor OTC monger.
I have no desire to sleep with whores. I prefer a girl who's selective. It's cleaner, safer, and I feel better about myself afterwards.
they say 'i only do it with you!'
I think these lower volume girls are just more resistant to do P4P in general, regardless of pricing and need other variables to be met.
My very first article on here (Are most strippers secretly whores?) almost a year ago detailed something similar. It was quite a long and convoluted article, but after about a year and many experiences later, my observations and hypotheses haven't changed much.
https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=527…
That has been my experience as well.
Well Id take a yelling stripper over a low talker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWYg9qF…
I bet she holding out for the $5,000
@DirkDiggler thanks for the link! You are right that a lot of dancers aren’t necessarily rational agents.
I can say I’m in that category. I’ve turned down some generous offers out of respect for my boyfriend, who doesn’t pay me anything (aside from the dinner tab when we go out together. Or for some of my flights to see him.) So technically, I’m not a rational agent either.
In Rick’s case, I suspect they aren’t low volume at all. But he’s welcome to correct me if he wishes. He’s the main one I remember saying that, but there are a few others around here where I’ve heard similar.
@two_bits HOW YOU DOIN’
@Warrior15 At the brief time I was a bit more open to that...it would be what this site considers GPS rates.
@doctorevil It’s your charm and personality ;)
But I also think it's probably pretty error-prone for a PL to think he may be the only one or that it's not a bigger # that he thinks w.r.t. the # of PLs she's with.
Btw, as a disclaimer, this isn’t a dig on the higher volume. I suspect they make more money overall than the lower volume dancer if they have similar looks/hustle.
@doctorevil All joking aside, I get the impression you have the social skills to get them to trust you. And by trust, it’s not being overly boundary pushing or risking not getting paid. You wouldn’t believe how many customers don’t give off that vibe.
The way I see it top earners provide both the least mileage and the most mileage, depending on her abilities.
There are also differences between clubs in my area, I mean there aren't a lot of clubs as busy as a DDs or a Tootsies that allow the kind of action that they allow, in their regular dance rooms, and in plenty of clubs the VIP doesn't really get a lot of play.
High volume or low volume.... both are whores, a warm wet hole to hold my cock till the swelling goes down
I think I agree. Two clubs in Austin that seem to be extra profitable, and one is full of extras and another barely any. (A former TUSCL reviewer said it was half the dancers did, but more recent reviews don’t indicate extras. And the extras club may be falling in profitability anyways, according to rumors. Idk)
And I agree a top earner doesn’t have to. And I think the more a dancer allows a “handicap” of non-extras, the better she allows herself to be at her job in other ways.
For some, prestige. For others, risk of disease. For most, it's just not pleasant to know about the many who... ahhh... came before us. Honestly, I'm not sure there's much of a correlation between volume and GFE.
"Because I’m very skeptical when some people on here speak about a dancer being low volume while at the same time, paying the rates most TUSCL users prefer (comparable to escorts or even less)."
I think that many guys convince themselves that their CF is lower volume, when the reality is that we just don't know.
We have an amount of money that we're willing (or able) to spend, and we'll talk ourselves into believing a certain amount of horseshit to rationalize the experience we badly want / need.
"I remember there was a discussion a few weeks ago that asked to predict how many strippers do extras. Zoey and I disagreed with most of the other commenters in the sense more dancers do extras than even the PL on here believe. But it’s for the right customer at the right price."
Related to that, there's also a breed of whale PL who really has more disposable income than he knows what to do with. He can happily throw $1000 to $2000 or more at the hottest "no extras" dancer with the same financial ease that most of us spend $300 or so. This sort of relates to the the "who would you spend $1000 on for sex" thread. For some guys, $1000 isn't crazy expensive.
"In my experience, the truly low volume dancers are lower volume because they charge well over what a comparable escort would for full service."
Sure. I can buy that. I do think that there's an echelon of top-tier dancer that we think of as "no extras", but the reality is that they're charging rates that most of the guys here can't or won't pay. They are probably the closest thing to a low-volume dancer that exists. But, even amongst those dancers, 'low volume' is likely a sliding scale.
Are they worth it? That's a whole other debate. But in a market economy, it's worth it to the guy who can afford it.
:)
Which leads to the age old question, what is the difference between a whore and a slut ? A whore will fuck anyone, but a slut will fuck anyone but you.
First of all, low or lower volume doesn't necessarily mean high prices. It just means that she rarely does FS/extras, but she still does them occasionally, selectively. Now some of these girls, particularly the most attractive ones, IMO, do charge a significantly higher rate than other girls. GPS or whatever.
Now you could be right in assuming that low volume might be a terrible experience. This is where delusion might come into play. A PL or even an RIL may believe that a girl that previously refused to do any type of extras or OTC that suddenly agrees to it, may provide an experience closer to GFE since it's much more novel for her and less mechanical/mercenary. Or more like having sex, albeit paid sex, with a civilian. Then there is that whole issue of sloppy seconds or tenths.
Already know what they're going to get with the stripper in terms of looks as opposed to paying for an escort site unseen. Yes, may escorts give out pics, but they may be completely inaccurate.
Escorts usually don't start "playing" until they have already received the donation. Most PLs don't pay OTC strippers until afterwards similar to ITC for good reasons.
IME, escorts did seem more mechanical and business oriented than strippers, not that strippers can't be the same.
Most strippers don't charge by the hour, and OTC meetings can last several hours, so you get a potentially vastly superior experience. And even after the higher cost, better value as well.
While I enjoy this thread, I think it's important to distinguish between the % of girls doing high/low volume extras right now, and the % of girls who will do high/low volume extras at some point in their career.
I’m assuming this is in your home club only? I noticed you have a ton of reviews in many other places, but it wouldn’t be practical to keep tabs like that, right?
Oh, yeah, the signs - like needle track marks, right? ;)
Ah, good choice. Easier to slip into her drink that way. :)