Post-Clubbing Impressions
LecherousMonk
Mom's basement
Hi, all! Long time, no post. I went to a club tonight, and it was the 1st time in a while. The most striking feature of the night was that I had two girls tell me it was their 1st time ever dancing, and another tell me it was her 6th. I believed them all.
I received what I believe to be one of the girls' 1st-ever dance, which really couldn't even be called that. She didn't know to start till halfway through the 1st song, and there was no contact whatever. This girl was actually quite attractive, and seemed bright, though very nervous, (college girl), and so I said the following to her as I was exiting the booth: "You're a smoke show; you could make a lot of money doing this. If I could give you one piece of advice, though--'Yes, please do,' she interjects--it would be to find another, more experienced, dancer who will let you tag along on one of her dances--give a guy a free dance, basically--so you can watch how she does it and get familiar with the process."
Later, as I was heading back for a 2-4-1 with my ATF, I mention the preponderance of new dancers and that she should help them learn the ropes, to which she responded, flat out, "Why? I don't think they would do that for me. In fact I know they wouldn't because no one did do that for me." I had no comeback for that in the moment.
My question to you esteemed gentlemen--and SJG--then, is was I being naïve when I gave that advice to the new girl, because dancers are competitors, not co-workers, and it's a dog-eat-dog world under the neon lights, or was my ATF's attitude unnecessarily jaded and cold?
I received what I believe to be one of the girls' 1st-ever dance, which really couldn't even be called that. She didn't know to start till halfway through the 1st song, and there was no contact whatever. This girl was actually quite attractive, and seemed bright, though very nervous, (college girl), and so I said the following to her as I was exiting the booth: "You're a smoke show; you could make a lot of money doing this. If I could give you one piece of advice, though--'Yes, please do,' she interjects--it would be to find another, more experienced, dancer who will let you tag along on one of her dances--give a guy a free dance, basically--so you can watch how she does it and get familiar with the process."
Later, as I was heading back for a 2-4-1 with my ATF, I mention the preponderance of new dancers and that she should help them learn the ropes, to which she responded, flat out, "Why? I don't think they would do that for me. In fact I know they wouldn't because no one did do that for me." I had no comeback for that in the moment.
My question to you esteemed gentlemen--and SJG--then, is was I being naïve when I gave that advice to the new girl, because dancers are competitors, not co-workers, and it's a dog-eat-dog world under the neon lights, or was my ATF's attitude unnecessarily jaded and cold?
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Side note:
1. How’s the lawn mowing jobs going
2. San Jose Guy is a fag
LecherousMonk is a great name.
I liked goldmongerATL's answer better:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
When a club is in slow season...eh not so much.
I think the problem isn’t so much the intention, it’s the quality of the “instructions”. Dancers oftentimes like to overinflate earnings and downplay how little mileage or extras they give out.
That and baby strippers tend to go into a cocky stage, and start thinking she’s superior to her “mentor”. Sadly, I fell into the same mentality for a short while as well. Who wants to take someone on and risk dealing with that?
Plus the internet exists, and baby strippers can learn much better from certain sources on there.
True, true. Daddy_Tricks, goldmongerATL and I will help them figure it out.
I think your ATF has the standard attitude. Most strippers seem to eventually make friends or at least friendly-acquaintances in the club, who will show them the ropes at least a bit. But I doubt your newbie stripper is dumb enough to just randomly ask veteran strippers for help, so I don't think it's a big deal either way.
In general, I tend not to give advice or "mansplain" (eyeroll) things to strippers about the business, unless they specifically ask for advice or feedback. In your position, I keep my advice to something like telling them they're awesome, letting them know that their dance was very low contact versus the standard dance here, and then re-inforcing how awesome they are and how I'm sure they'll pick things right up. Honestly, that's all the hint they need -- if they want to ask details, that's fine (sometimes they get excited about getting gentle constructive feedback), otherwise I'm sure they're smart enough to start watching other dancers do lap dances to see what's what. No need to give specific advice on "Find another dancer to teach you" or whatever, she'll do whatever she's comfortable with
No worries, guys. I inseminated her last night and she seems to be coming along just fine.
The worst is if the newbie girl is hotter than the rest. All the other girls will do thier best to sabotage her. Your best bet in this case is to get her number for OTC in anticipation for the moment they push her out.