Advice on getting OTC
md_guy
Maryland
Been trying, and failing to set up an OTC encounter. So far the farthest I've gotten was some text exchanges with one chick, and a verbal agreement with another but without her phone number lol. Anyone got some advice? I've made it clear I'd be paying and I'm not going for a gf/bf situation, but I've only been aiming for the smoking hot ones. Not doing OTC with a troll.... Anyways, dudes with experience lay some experience on me.
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Anything else means you are playing a chumps game.
Subraman is Click and I am Clack. I bet you were hoping you could get some crack. But drugs ain't cool in the strip club. So stay in school, cuz it's the best. Huh what.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpDmklLF…
Hans and Franz said it best, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhOrmr4q…
> Only do it the SJG way, for free on the regular after you’ve softened her up with DFK in the front room
I was with you right up until the DFK part. SJG 1:5 clearly states that it is front room DATY, however.
@Meat72 tell sjg to hop in here
@subraman First I tip during the stage show, then I take them VIP, then I throw a little more cash at them
either stage dances or free drinks or whatever. Then when I leave I ask them if they wanna
keep in touch. Usually the second or third time I see them I'll put it out there that they could
make more money if they wanted too. One girl gave me her number at that point, but she
always back out. The other one gave me a price, and said she'd meet up with me (we live
close together) put I don't have her contact info.
It help to be a regular at a club and get to know the dancers. If a dancer is comfortable with you, she will be more willing to meet you outside the club. The amount of money you're willing to pay is also a big factor.
Strippers are flaky and often won't show up for OTC. They always show up late. You have to be patient with their behavior.
Whenever I meet a hot new stripper, I ask if she would see me OTC. About half say yes. And about half of those show up. The more girls you ask, the better chance you have.
-->"I'll put it out there that they could
make more money if they wanted too"
Hmmm... the way you worded it is pretty cringeworthy to me, but I doubt the wording makes much difference. Well, unless you're using such passive-aggressive and somewhat scaredycat wording and your body language and countenance is matching it, then maybe you're giving off creepy vibes? But as long as your body language and attitude isn't so passive agressive, I suppose the wording isn't a big deal either way.
Note that flaking, getting a phone number but she doesn't text back, etc., is pretty much par for the course. If you only had two failures, that's not really a big deal. Just move on quickly -- girls who won't give me their # are instantly fired, and same if she doesn't return texts once we've exchanged numbers. It could be you just need to keep asking and playing the numbers; I suppose it could be the way you're asking, or maybe the way you're wording it when you are assuring them that you're not looking to be their boyfriend (why even bring that up? That could be weird in itself, I imagine -- especially if you're having all these discussions with the passive aggressive wording)
@papi_chulo Yeah when I see a girl I like I usually become her regular, it's just the girls I like her pretty cute so I'm usually not their only reg
Agree with papi that there's no one right way to do things, and if you're already awkward, doing things my way might come off super unnatural and even more awkward. Because there definitely ARE wrong ways to do things, like come off creepy, etc.
- Get her number the first time you meet her. If she says no, move on, no reason to invest any more time.
- "Would you be interested in meeting me outside the club?" or some variation.
- Don't be awkward :) Really, if you're lucky enough to find a girl that's interested, being perceived as creepy or poor at the two ways to get disqualified
Most girls have a FB page for their stripper persona,you might consider making one for your strip club self so she doesn't have direct access to your wife,job or kids 2nd birthday party. Most have a burner number they give out but I have found out that it's easier for them to add you on the Book than even give out the number.
I'll add that half of the time I have done OTC she is the one that offered.
A bunch of guys here use this line, and they're successful with it, so obviously it's fine. But just for the sake of starting an argument :)
My own feeling is: It's none of my fucking business what she does with other customers, or what she does with other customers outside the club. So I don't ask. On top of that, asking in this way gives her an easy out, "No, I don't meet customers outside the club". It doesn't feel personal because she's just telling you her general rule -- which I imagine is why guys word it that way, because they're afraid of being personally rejected? I go the opposite route, I make this as absolutely personal as possible: "Will you meet me outside the club" or some variant -- I want her to know this is about me personally, I want her very aware that a "no" threatens our stripper/regular relationship. And it doesn't hurt my feelings if she says no -- I'd rather hear that immediately so I know to move on.
So, why ask if she meets customers outside the club, if you can just ask if she'll meet you outside the club?
Again, a lot of guys use that line about the other customers, so I suppose it works fine. Maybe it's just a personal style thing: I like to be direct and leading the conversation
I can see where you are going with it and may word it differently next time.
You're definitely right; many guys on tuscl use that line, and if the girls have any bad feelings about it, they're holding it in, I don't think anyone has reported any "none of your business" responses. The girls know what you're getting at, obviously. I just don't like that wording on principal; just a mindset and attitude thing I guess
Good idea, but be very careful with this. The real account might still show up in the “people you may know” anyways.
Offer her a plan to meet up OTC. Be confident. Do you know if she has done this before?
If she seems comfortable with you at the club but comes across like she's never done OTC, tell here just dinner the first time is fine, and if she wants to get together a second time then you'll take her to a hotel that has a bar and a restaurant in it. You might end up wasting money on a dinner that leads nowhere, but it gives you a chance to score with a cutie who doesn't whore around.
When you get dances have enough money in your pocket that she can feel a bulge there too, but don't spend it all on her. In addition to their safety, girls are seriously concerned about getting ripped off. Let her know you have money (in cash) without spending more on her than you have to. The fact that she felt it in your pocket rather than you just offering it will make her feel like less of a whore, too.
If you get her number but she doesn't text you back, don't treat it like a big deal the next time you see her at the club. You're competing with other customers to make her feel more comfortable with you. And that's a really low bar for you to hurdle. When she does hand out her number, a lot of guys will text her compulsively until she has to block them. It's easy to stand out from these guys. You won't score instantly with that this approach, but knowing you won't get too clingy with her (through experience) can help a lot. Don't think of rejection as rejection. Think of it as an opportunity to set yourself apart from the other butt hurt customers who get ticked off by rejection. You don't have to come back to the club just to see her, but don't ignore her when you do. Making her feel comfortable is a process, and you're allowed to play the field while you do it.
Here are a few things to be aware of -
Make a few trips to the club. If a few dancers know you - and they are comfortable with you - there’s less chance of them thinking you are LE.
Get the phone numbers of the dancers who dance for you. If you have her phone number - make sure it’s her number. If it’s her - then text her about getting together for otc.
Don’t ask open ended questions. Be authoritative and take control. If you want her to think about it - you have already set yourself up for failure.
A simple way to get things going is to say - “Give me your number, and I’ll give you mine. You can hit me up if it gets slow - or if you’d like to get together OTC.”
Don’t give the dancers too much cash ITC. If you buy drinks and spend freely - it will lessen the need to meet you OTC - as you’ve already covered their expenses.
One thing I'll say...I would only ask a girl if she "sees guys outside" if my goal was to snag a shameless high volume chick working in a place with zero LE concerns. Probably right on target for you Detroit and Miami boys and maybe the Follies crowd, but the clubs in MD are not, in my experience, as freewheeling.
But the rest I'll leave to the great minds of TUSCL. ☺
LOL - many a dancer is def much more curious about the bulge in your wallet than the bulge in your pants.
I've noticed at times when I take out my wad to pay a dancer how her eyes are at times fixated on the wad like if they were almost in a trance LOL.
e.g. not spending that much on her ITC so she's enticed to do OTC to get the big-$$$; the rationale being that if she's getting what she want$ ITC why bother w/ OTC - on the other PL-hand, if she's not used to you spending well on her ITC then kinda out-of-sight-outta-of-mind and she's not cognizant about what she's mi$$ing - i.e. if she's used to you spending well on her ITC she may be afraid of losing out on that $$$ if she does not agree to OTC thus she may be more motivated - two different approaches - I kinda lean towards the latter of getting her used to you spending well on her to where she value$ you as a custy and doesn't wanna lose you.
i.e. there may some clubs/areas that for various reasons pulling OTC is harder or easier - but generally speaking OTC can be pulled pretty-much from most clubs.
Also - speaking in general terms - dayshift girls often tend to be more accommodating than nigthshift girls - and experienced dancers may also be less scared than than inexperienced dancer when it comes to meeting a PL OTC.
Just some generalities that don't necessarily make a huge difference but may carry some water.
Two other more fundamental thoughts on this topic:
First, relax. As counter-intuitive as this seems, the harder you try, the tougher it will be. Nobody wants to be around a guy that makes them uncomfortable, including a potential OTC girl.
Second, if it's a stretch on your budget, don't do it. You will enjoy it far less and it will make scoring it tougher in the first place since you will have more trouble relaxing. There are far cheaper ways to get laid than trying to coax strippers OTC.